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As ever, WLM, PR disasters continued

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AtIusvue · 26/11/2025 08:20

Online, people are pointing out that a very expensive cashmere jumper that Meg wore on suits, also made its way to her wardrobe

It’s been nothing but PR disasters of late.

What I have noticed which is curious - is that the UK tabloids are not running with P6 story about the dress. Just like they avoided talking about the NY car chase. They only reported on the media frenzy. But, we know Harry sent out some sort of memo not to publish photos etc. None of the UK press did. Now Meg has acknowledged the stolen dress story and released an official refute ….and none of the UK press are even reporting on that?

That’s weird. They will literally print any old Meg story to get clicks…..but not this one???

The articles on this issue are mainly American.

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Mylovelygreendress · 07/12/2025 13:28

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/12/2025 13:20

I thought it was the ex Netflix person who had left. I didn't realise Meredith had.

There was a Blind article a few weeks ago so may or not be accurate .

smilesy · 07/12/2025 13:38

Lunde · 07/12/2025 12:58

It was reported about a month ago that Meghan's "Director of Communications", Meredith Maines, had quit

So perhaps Meghan is doing her own PR at the moment

I think Meghan always does her own PR. She employs people to do it but doesn’t take their advice. It’s how she rolls

Thewolffromthedoor89 · 07/12/2025 13:44

NewAgeNewMe · 07/12/2025 11:02

@MrsLeonFarrell as always the voice of such measured posts.

As a 99% Republican; I agree with this wholeheartedly! It’s always a pleasure debating with MrsLeonFarrell.

Thewolffromthedoor89 · 07/12/2025 13:50

Lunde · 07/12/2025 13:02

I'm not a fan of Thomas Markle but this is a complete own goal by Meghan - Meghan has ignored his heart attack in 2018 and his major stroke in 2022 - making no contact at all.

So why put out a press release saying she had "reached out" when it was a lie?

I’m afraid that I wouldn’t be altogether surprised if his heart attack was somewhat exaggerated. The timing was certainly very convenient and he was pictured collecting picking up fast food very soon afterwards.

Obviously, he is in hospital seriously ill now, but not too ill to try and make a media storm about it. I think Meghan quite rightly has to be very circumspect when dealing with this man.

elessar · 07/12/2025 13:55

sequinpanties · 07/12/2025 12:53

As is the case though once something is online it's there forever so here it is elsewhere

Thanks for resharing this, as I think it’s useful to see.

at this time in Meghan’s life there was no particular need or benefit to her lying about the relationship with her father - nobody knew or cared - so no reason whatsoever to assume this is untrue.

And when you read it through, it’s not full of meaningless fluff, there’s a lot of very tangible examples of him being a supportive and loving father to her.

I would reiterate that the way he has conducted himself over the past few years isn’t particularly admirable (again, nor is her behaviour), but I’ve yet to see any examples of his behaviour that cancels out 36 years of being a loving father and justifies treating him with such coldness to the extent that he’s never met her husband or children and she wouldn’t even get in touch with him when he might be dying.

BoxingHares22 · 07/12/2025 14:11

Mylovelygreendress · 07/12/2025 13:28

There was a Blind article a few weeks ago so may or not be accurate .

What did the article say?

Thewolffromthedoor89 · 07/12/2025 14:22

Without wishing to sound snarky, I think what comes across on threads like this is that some monarchists don’t really recognise that arguments about what H&M are “up against” when compared to royalty, don’t really make sense to most republicans, who just see people as people with inherit values as humans, outside of status or hierarchy.

What is pretty obvious though is that the royals have more money, influence, power and better and more extensive PR resources than H&M.

But whether an ordinary bloke turns up to support a charity, or someone of high birth, or someone is a celebrity, it doesn’t make much difference does it, as long as they can bring press attention to the cause?

Maybe it did make a difference when Monarchy was thought to uphold a higher standard of wisdom and probity, but I think what has been revealed in recent years, is that very much isn’t the case.

I suppose one could make an argument that the RF’s superior status comes from the collective nations they represent, but that would be the case for an elected head of state too, with the added value that they would at least have received a mandate from the British people to represent them.

Mylovelygreendress · 07/12/2025 14:26

BoxingHares22 · 07/12/2025 14:11

What did the article say?

Here it is

As ever, WLM, PR disasters continued
Thewolffromthedoor89 · 07/12/2025 14:31

elessar · 07/12/2025 13:55

Thanks for resharing this, as I think it’s useful to see.

at this time in Meghan’s life there was no particular need or benefit to her lying about the relationship with her father - nobody knew or cared - so no reason whatsoever to assume this is untrue.

And when you read it through, it’s not full of meaningless fluff, there’s a lot of very tangible examples of him being a supportive and loving father to her.

I would reiterate that the way he has conducted himself over the past few years isn’t particularly admirable (again, nor is her behaviour), but I’ve yet to see any examples of his behaviour that cancels out 36 years of being a loving father and justifies treating him with such coldness to the extent that he’s never met her husband or children and she wouldn’t even get in touch with him when he might be dying.

I’m genuinely not sure that anyone can judge this accurately from the outside looking in.

Of course if you are an actress who is becoming more well known, and you have a lifestyle blog, and do some work for UNICEF, you may well want to project a more positive image of your upbringing than was the reality.

I know someone whose father was a violent alcoholic who used to paint a happy picture to friends and outsiders alike because of the shame she felt about her family situation more than anything. And her childhood did include happy moments; days out to the zoo for example when her father was sober. I know this because I was one of the children who attended her birthday parties. It wasn’t until much, much later on, after her father’s death, and when she had dc of her own, that we all knew the truth.

AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 15:26

From the Times. An update about Megs email.

‘Sources close to the duchess insist that she has tried to reach out to her father several times since her wedding. He has never met Harry or the couple’s children, Prince Archie, six, and Princess Lilibet, four.
One source accused The Mail on Sunday of “puppeteering this desperately sad situation”, saying: “The Mail made no attempt to contact the duchess’s team prior to publication to verify the claims in their report.
“Had they asked, particularly in light of the quotes they relied upon from Mr Markle and hospital staff, we would simply have told them to ask Mr Markle to check his email.
“We first saw the story only after it was published. We immediately informed the Mail that the duchess had, in fact, emailed her father — a detail we had deliberately chosen not to share in order to avoid further dragging this private matter into the public eye.”’

Their PR team just don’t know what the hell they are doing. Someone always in sight to blame.

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AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 15:33

I mean they are putting out, a man who nearly died, should have been checking his bloody emails in the ICU!!!

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TheAutumnCrow · 07/12/2025 15:40

AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 15:33

I mean they are putting out, a man who nearly died, should have been checking his bloody emails in the ICU!!!

So no-one actually rang the hospital? Not M, nor H, nor an ‘aide’?

But ‘they’ were repeatedly emailing a man in the intensive care unit?

That’s quite a strange story for people who have ‘a global platform’, a chief of staff and a chief communications officer.

BoxingHares22 · 07/12/2025 15:40

Mylovelygreendress · 07/12/2025 14:26

Here it is

There is a comment about the ginger haired one being blind drunk on a tv appearance too. Is that a reference to who we think it is?

TheAutumnCrow · 07/12/2025 15:43

BoxingHares22 · 07/12/2025 15:40

There is a comment about the ginger haired one being blind drunk on a tv appearance too. Is that a reference to who we think it is?

The Colbert thing?

I know H has a clipped posh English accent but I couldn’t understand a lot of what he was saying. Like he was swallowing his words. His being ‘in drink’ might explain it.

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/12/2025 15:57

AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 15:33

I mean they are putting out, a man who nearly died, should have been checking his bloody emails in the ICU!!!

He's managed to speak to the world's press from ICU! I don't think the narrative makes sense on either side of the family. Maybe they can decide to take it offline?

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/12/2025 15:59

TheAutumnCrow · 07/12/2025 15:43

The Colbert thing?

I know H has a clipped posh English accent but I couldn’t understand a lot of what he was saying. Like he was swallowing his words. His being ‘in drink’ might explain it.

I have seen a tiny clip and he did seem extremely animated. It could have been nerves or alcohol, or a combination of both. I don't think he is a natural performer.

Lunde · 07/12/2025 16:29

AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 15:26

From the Times. An update about Megs email.

‘Sources close to the duchess insist that she has tried to reach out to her father several times since her wedding. He has never met Harry or the couple’s children, Prince Archie, six, and Princess Lilibet, four.
One source accused The Mail on Sunday of “puppeteering this desperately sad situation”, saying: “The Mail made no attempt to contact the duchess’s team prior to publication to verify the claims in their report.
“Had they asked, particularly in light of the quotes they relied upon from Mr Markle and hospital staff, we would simply have told them to ask Mr Markle to check his email.
“We first saw the story only after it was published. We immediately informed the Mail that the duchess had, in fact, emailed her father — a detail we had deliberately chosen not to share in order to avoid further dragging this private matter into the public eye.”’

Their PR team just don’t know what the hell they are doing. Someone always in sight to blame.

Wait! What? They "sent an e-mail" to a man in ICU??

But I thought Meghan only communicates with her father by handwritten letter!

BoxingHares22 · 07/12/2025 17:03

To an address he hasn't used in over five years.

elessar · 07/12/2025 17:40

Thewolffromthedoor89 · 07/12/2025 14:31

I’m genuinely not sure that anyone can judge this accurately from the outside looking in.

Of course if you are an actress who is becoming more well known, and you have a lifestyle blog, and do some work for UNICEF, you may well want to project a more positive image of your upbringing than was the reality.

I know someone whose father was a violent alcoholic who used to paint a happy picture to friends and outsiders alike because of the shame she felt about her family situation more than anything. And her childhood did include happy moments; days out to the zoo for example when her father was sober. I know this because I was one of the children who attended her birthday parties. It wasn’t until much, much later on, after her father’s death, and when she had dc of her own, that we all knew the truth.

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Whilst of course that could be the case, Meghan has never hinted at any childhood abuse by her father, and she’s been free and easy with her accusations on many other fronts as they’ve suited her victim narrative, even when those have proven to be untrue.

In any public comment they’ve talked about the situation regarding the wedding and afterwards as being the cause for Meghan to “lose” the relationship with her father.

So whilst of course there could be a lot more to it that we don’t know about, equally I think it would be very unfair to assume he was an abusive father simply because Meghan cut contact with him.

Again, I don’t think TM is completely innocent in the whole matter, and I think the half siblings seem pretty vile - but none of them have done anything worse than Meghan herself as far as I can tell, and she’s the one who’s made millions out of it.

AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 18:08

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/12/2025 15:57

He's managed to speak to the world's press from ICU! I don't think the narrative makes sense on either side of the family. Maybe they can decide to take it offline?

Talking about your ill health and life saving surgery from a hospital bed, is hardly the same as logging onto your laptop to catch up on emails.

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MrsLeonFarrell · 07/12/2025 18:17

AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 18:08

Talking about your ill health and life saving surgery from a hospital bed, is hardly the same as logging onto your laptop to catch up on emails.

I disagree. We can all check out emails on our phone, it's not exactly complicated. Even my luddite father uses a mobile phone when he is in hospital. Contacting the press was a choice, a choice he made apparently at death's door. He coughs have googled contact details for Archwell or checked his phone but instead he used his limited energy to reach out through the press. I don't find that story credible in the same way i don't find sudden reports that Meghan has been emailing her father over the years credible. Both are convenient narratives from two people who would rather talk to the press than each other. It's really sad but we don't really have any idea what is going on so can't say more than that.

Rhaidimiddim · 07/12/2025 18:19

AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 15:26

From the Times. An update about Megs email.

‘Sources close to the duchess insist that she has tried to reach out to her father several times since her wedding. He has never met Harry or the couple’s children, Prince Archie, six, and Princess Lilibet, four.
One source accused The Mail on Sunday of “puppeteering this desperately sad situation”, saying: “The Mail made no attempt to contact the duchess’s team prior to publication to verify the claims in their report.
“Had they asked, particularly in light of the quotes they relied upon from Mr Markle and hospital staff, we would simply have told them to ask Mr Markle to check his email.
“We first saw the story only after it was published. We immediately informed the Mail that the duchess had, in fact, emailed her father — a detail we had deliberately chosen not to share in order to avoid further dragging this private matter into the public eye.”’

Their PR team just don’t know what the hell they are doing. Someone always in sight to blame.

So the story is now that she had tried several times over the years to contact him, but the communication never connected or went unanswered.

So a reversal - I never ditched him, he ditched me; it is all his fault that he never met Harry and the kids. Despite me having people in employ whose jobs involve comms, people in my circle with private jets, and a dad who has regularly beseeched me to contact him.

Unbelievable, in every register of that word's meaning.
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AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 18:29

MrsLeonFarrell · 07/12/2025 18:17

I disagree. We can all check out emails on our phone, it's not exactly complicated. Even my luddite father uses a mobile phone when he is in hospital. Contacting the press was a choice, a choice he made apparently at death's door. He coughs have googled contact details for Archwell or checked his phone but instead he used his limited energy to reach out through the press. I don't find that story credible in the same way i don't find sudden reports that Meghan has been emailing her father over the years credible. Both are convenient narratives from two people who would rather talk to the press than each other. It's really sad but we don't really have any idea what is going on so can't say more than that.

So mums just given birth, should be straight back onto the work emails then? Give over.

He had surgery to remove his leg and was in ICU. When people have experienced a medical trauma, of which they are still recovering….their immediate thought isn’t to catch up on emails is it?

The man was in ICU until today. I have no idea about what’s the protocol about personal devices on such a ward, but I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t need to be admitted to the ward if you’re able to go on your laptop to check emails and play solitaire

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sequinpanties · 07/12/2025 18:35

Thewolffromthedoor89 · 07/12/2025 14:31

I’m genuinely not sure that anyone can judge this accurately from the outside looking in.

Of course if you are an actress who is becoming more well known, and you have a lifestyle blog, and do some work for UNICEF, you may well want to project a more positive image of your upbringing than was the reality.

I know someone whose father was a violent alcoholic who used to paint a happy picture to friends and outsiders alike because of the shame she felt about her family situation more than anything. And her childhood did include happy moments; days out to the zoo for example when her father was sober. I know this because I was one of the children who attended her birthday parties. It wasn’t until much, much later on, after her father’s death, and when she had dc of her own, that we all knew the truth.

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Are you saying Meghan lied about her childhood?

AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 18:36

Rhaidimiddim · 07/12/2025 18:19

So the story is now that she had tried several times over the years to contact him, but the communication never connected or went unanswered.

So a reversal - I never ditched him, he ditched me; it is all his fault that he never met Harry and the kids. Despite me having people in employ whose jobs involve comms, people in my circle with private jets, and a dad who has regularly beseeched me to contact him.

Unbelievable, in every register of that word's meaning.
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I can’t believe this is professional PR putting out this nonsense. It makes no sense.

There has never been a rebuttal to Markle snr claim that he hasn’t heard from his daughter etc. Until now. Now she is blaming him for not seeing his grandkids, for not checking his emails on an ICU ward.

I know there were rumours that Meredith is going/thinking of going. This won’t help these rumours, because this is an omnishambles from start to finish.

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