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Tina Brown on Harry/Meghan

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MsAmerica · 25/11/2025 23:34

Tina Brown Thinks the Über-Rich Have It Coming
By Lulu Garcia-Navarro

Lulu Garcia-Navarro: One of your other specialties is the royal family. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are trying to make their own way in the world. They’ve had a rocky time being entrepreneurs. Do you think they have anything to offer anymore?

Tina Brown: It’s very sad what’s happened to them. I have never seen anybody in professional life make as many mistakes as Meghan has, and unfortunately Harry is not the brightest bulb, either. He thought that Meghan would be his guide in the big wide world beyond Buckingham Palace, and it turns out that Meghan makes one terrible professional decision after another. And now they’re pariahs everywhere, it seems, which is a very difficult situation for them because America was supposed to be the place that paid the bills.

What is sad is that Harry’s very good at being a prince. He’s charming, he’s upbeat, he’s attractive, he makes people happy when he walks into a room, he’s very good with young people. You could send him around the world and he’s always going to be welcomed and appealing. And I think he has realized too late that he was born to be a prince. And now he’s essentially just some guy doing P.R. gigs while Meghan tries out her latest cooking idea or whatever.

It looks more and more as if Harry’s best decision would be to find a way to come back to England. I’d like to see a way for him to make amends with his family, but it gets harder and harder as the years go by. I think that William is going to be the decider of that, and I think William has a very tough view of the whole situation, which is that the betrayal of Harry is not something that can be remedied.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/15/magazine/tina-brown-interview.html

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ninjahamster · 25/11/2025 23:40

Such bullshit I think.

Meghan owes the royal family nothing so I don’t really see how any mistakes can be attributed to her.

Harry wrote the memoir, maybe that was a mistake? He certainly has more loyalties to the royal family than she does. HOWEVER, he was really badly treated as a young grieving child, being made to follow the coffin of his mother. The royal family have traditionally been emotionally negligent and do seem to be trying to move that along but the damage is done with regards to him.

Bossbabyxmas · 25/11/2025 23:45

I dont think she’s doing that badly given she’s got a high profile Netflix show and her face plastered over the daily mail every day, generating them loads of revenue.

jeffgoldblum · 25/11/2025 23:50

ninjahamster · 25/11/2025 23:40

Such bullshit I think.

Meghan owes the royal family nothing so I don’t really see how any mistakes can be attributed to her.

Harry wrote the memoir, maybe that was a mistake? He certainly has more loyalties to the royal family than she does. HOWEVER, he was really badly treated as a young grieving child, being made to follow the coffin of his mother. The royal family have traditionally been emotionally negligent and do seem to be trying to move that along but the damage is done with regards to him.

Let’s not forget that he wasn’t the only grieving child behind that coffin.

ninjahamster · 25/11/2025 23:58

jeffgoldblum · 25/11/2025 23:50

Let’s not forget that he wasn’t the only grieving child behind that coffin.

Agree. William must have severe trauma too.

jeffgoldblum · 26/11/2025 00:03

ninjahamster · 25/11/2025 23:58

Agree. William must have severe trauma too.

Agreed , he gets overlooked because he’d had a growth spurt but he was only two years ( if that ) older. He gets forgotten because he keeps his feelings under wraps but anyone who saw the funeral march could see his distress.

Spectre8 · 26/11/2025 00:23

jeffgoldblum · 25/11/2025 23:50

Let’s not forget that he wasn’t the only grieving child behind that coffin.

Then go start a thread about it..as this is about Harry and Meghan and not William ...noone is forgetting William 🙄

jeffgoldblum · 26/11/2025 00:30

Spectre8 · 26/11/2025 00:23

Then go start a thread about it..as this is about Harry and Meghan and not William ...noone is forgetting William 🙄

Flattered but not interested sorry.

gishgalloping · 26/11/2025 00:40

I think Harry’s post independence has shown that, if anything, the royal family protected him from his own worst instincts. He’s made mess after mess since he left. Meghan is also bizarrely bad for a Hollywood celeb at managing her own PR. They’ve wasted all the goodwill they had in Britain and now in America.

Sundayafternooning · 26/11/2025 01:10

Harry is in a no man’s land now. He has utterly lost his way and there is no going back. I don’t think he’s accepted this or his own culpability. The RF will never forgive him and I suspect William will have nothing to do with them when his father dies.
There is a limit to how long Meghan can continue trying to climb up the greasy pole of celebrity. She’s sliding further down on each attempt and is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Her main appeal now is the entertainment value derived from watching her increasingly desperate and embarrassing ploys to stay in the news.

DreamTheMoors · 26/11/2025 01:18

Sundayafternooning · 26/11/2025 01:10

Harry is in a no man’s land now. He has utterly lost his way and there is no going back. I don’t think he’s accepted this or his own culpability. The RF will never forgive him and I suspect William will have nothing to do with them when his father dies.
There is a limit to how long Meghan can continue trying to climb up the greasy pole of celebrity. She’s sliding further down on each attempt and is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Her main appeal now is the entertainment value derived from watching her increasingly desperate and embarrassing ploys to stay in the news.

Edited

This is funny lol.
I actually live about 3 hours away from Meghan and Harry and their family and I never hear anything about them.

But sure enough, I come onto random threads like this one and somebody turns Meghan into an axe murderer. 😂

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/11/2025 01:26

Everyone makes mistakes.
Meghan manages to monetise any mistakes really well. Hate viewing/clicks make just as much money as others.

The only people I know who watch, listen, talk about her, hate her. Meanwhile she's laughing all the way to the bank. Fair fucks to her.🤷‍♀️

jeffgoldblum · 26/11/2025 01:27

Is climbing the greasy pole of celebrity and sliding further down akin to being an axe murderer now??? 🤔 No , such hyperbole and hysteria.

jeffgoldblum · 26/11/2025 01:29

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/11/2025 01:26

Everyone makes mistakes.
Meghan manages to monetise any mistakes really well. Hate viewing/clicks make just as much money as others.

The only people I know who watch, listen, talk about her, hate her. Meanwhile she's laughing all the way to the bank. Fair fucks to her.🤷‍♀️

So what is the problem then? , she’s happy, you are happy, why the snarky comments to other posters?

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/11/2025 01:32

jeffgoldblum · 26/11/2025 01:29

So what is the problem then? , she’s happy, you are happy, why the snarky comments to other posters?

What snarky comments to other posters?Confused

CheeseIsMyIdol · 26/11/2025 03:48

gishgalloping · 26/11/2025 00:40

I think Harry’s post independence has shown that, if anything, the royal family protected him from his own worst instincts. He’s made mess after mess since he left. Meghan is also bizarrely bad for a Hollywood celeb at managing her own PR. They’ve wasted all the goodwill they had in Britain and now in America.

Agree with this.

also, I used to think it was hyperbole that the RF had washed their hands of him. But now I honestly think they have, and there is no coming back for him.

Dorosomethingbeautiful · 26/11/2025 04:00

@MsAmerica what exactly is the point of this post?

stillavid · 26/11/2025 05:04

Genuine question but how is Meghan monetising the hate? She doesn't get revenue from the Daily Mail.

I am surprised she doesn't do shopmy or affiliate links as that would be an obvious way to monetise her fame.

Housewife2010 · 26/11/2025 05:12

stillavid · 26/11/2025 05:04

Genuine question but how is Meghan monetising the hate? She doesn't get revenue from the Daily Mail.

I am surprised she doesn't do shopmy or affiliate links as that would be an obvious way to monetise her fame.

She does.

stillavid · 26/11/2025 05:14

I thought her shopmy was no longer being updated - but haven't looked to be fair.

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 26/11/2025 05:21

I agree with the quote in the OP and gishgalloping. Harry was clearly well managed in his royal life, and now we all see the dim, petulant man he is. Meghan wants fame and to be held in high esteem but acts in a way that is guaranteed to secure neither. They are nearly out of secrets to sell, and there’s a limit to how much people will (hate)watch Meghan make yogurt.

Thedom · 26/11/2025 07:03

‘I actually live about 3 hours away from Meghan and Harry and their family and I never hear anything about them.’

Sounds like another failure for them, considering the massive PR teams they have employed who try to generate news and publicity for them in the US. They have a hotline to People, which has a very decent circulation in the US and little or nothing outside, so it’s interesting to hear from a ‘local’ how it is not generating any interest for them.

The self generated publicity they do get seems to backfire badly in all directions.

NewAgeNewMe · 26/11/2025 07:13

Glad it wasn’t just me thinking that @Thedom as it won’t be what they want. TBH I only know about H&M on here unless there is a podcast or news item about them, which seems to be happening less now.

Thedom · 26/11/2025 07:13

Meghan wants adulation though, she doesn’t want to be someone who is only ‘popular’ because of ‘hate watchers’, she doesn’t want to be seen as a substandard influencer and the butt of ridicule, she is desperately scrambling for recognition as a founder and philanthropist, it’s just not happening for her though. I think the laughing all the way to the bank is thanks to her husbands hard cash.

Snowonground · 26/11/2025 07:18

ninjahamster · 25/11/2025 23:40

Such bullshit I think.

Meghan owes the royal family nothing so I don’t really see how any mistakes can be attributed to her.

Harry wrote the memoir, maybe that was a mistake? He certainly has more loyalties to the royal family than she does. HOWEVER, he was really badly treated as a young grieving child, being made to follow the coffin of his mother. The royal family have traditionally been emotionally negligent and do seem to be trying to move that along but the damage is done with regards to him.

Does any of that matter? Whoever's fault it was, they are where they are, having made some dreadful professional mistakes which has set people against them rather than improved their positions. Which is what Tina Brown is saying.

Meghan may "owe the Royal Family nothing". But in turn, the Royal Family also owe Meghan nothing. Which includes the titles on which they rely. Actions have consequences.

Indianrollerbird · 26/11/2025 07:55

Spectre8 · 26/11/2025 00:23

Then go start a thread about it..as this is about Harry and Meghan and not William ...noone is forgetting William 🙄

Did you read it properly? Tina Brown specifically states that William will be the arbiter of Harry’s future as a royal. Her comments can be interpreted as rather more about William’s (unstated) feelings on the matter than the Sussexes’ evident failings.