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Tina Brown on Harry/Meghan

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MsAmerica · 25/11/2025 23:34

Tina Brown Thinks the Über-Rich Have It Coming
By Lulu Garcia-Navarro

Lulu Garcia-Navarro: One of your other specialties is the royal family. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are trying to make their own way in the world. They’ve had a rocky time being entrepreneurs. Do you think they have anything to offer anymore?

Tina Brown: It’s very sad what’s happened to them. I have never seen anybody in professional life make as many mistakes as Meghan has, and unfortunately Harry is not the brightest bulb, either. He thought that Meghan would be his guide in the big wide world beyond Buckingham Palace, and it turns out that Meghan makes one terrible professional decision after another. And now they’re pariahs everywhere, it seems, which is a very difficult situation for them because America was supposed to be the place that paid the bills.

What is sad is that Harry’s very good at being a prince. He’s charming, he’s upbeat, he’s attractive, he makes people happy when he walks into a room, he’s very good with young people. You could send him around the world and he’s always going to be welcomed and appealing. And I think he has realized too late that he was born to be a prince. And now he’s essentially just some guy doing P.R. gigs while Meghan tries out her latest cooking idea or whatever.

It looks more and more as if Harry’s best decision would be to find a way to come back to England. I’d like to see a way for him to make amends with his family, but it gets harder and harder as the years go by. I think that William is going to be the decider of that, and I think William has a very tough view of the whole situation, which is that the betrayal of Harry is not something that can be remedied.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/15/magazine/tina-brown-interview.html

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Indianrollerbird · 27/11/2025 10:19

gishgalloping · 27/11/2025 10:15

How can a journalist confirm that William “will do it again”? Do they have a crystal ball? Is the journalist’s name Mystic Meg?

Such nonsense.

Maybe he was the editor of the astrology section in the News of the World.

ThatAvidViewer · 27/11/2025 10:19

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 10:05

How could the DH friend confirm William’s intention to have an affair in the future, I wonder.. had William confided in a tabloid editor about his libidinous plans?

That comment was made-up BS. How would a lawyer even know if it’s 100% true? And how would they know that he would have more affairs in the future?

If you’re going to make up a story, make it believable next time.

And of course you have another commenter claiming it’s true because ‘I have a friend who’s friends with their friends,’ or ‘I know a journalist.’ It’s the same script every time.

The fact remains: if any journalist or newspaper had proof—videos, texts, photos, two credible sources, or anything else—they would have reported it, just like they did with Charles, Diana, Anne, and others.

They would never sit on a story like that; it would be a goldmine.

MrsFinkelstein · 27/11/2025 10:19

When you look at it objectively it's pretty obvious where the rumour originated and who it benefits.

As presented: but it was perceived that Meghan pushed Harry to confront William about the affair, which Harry would never had done of his own volition.

Meghan was judgemental about the affairs, and ultimately judgemental about William and Kate’s way of life. Mistake one.

  1. Meghan is a strong, upstanding, moral woman. Harry is weaker, but she is there to make sure he knows right from wrong.
  2. Meghan loves the Monarchy (even though she walked away and only worked as a Royal for 72 days and mocked the Queen on TV and lied about Letters Patent and made accusations of racism) she loves the Monarchy SO much she can't stand to see it possibly being dragged down by the Heir having an affair!
  3. Meghan's so much more moral and upstanding than the future Queen, her lifestyle is just so much more pure.
  4. Meghan would be a better Queen!

I mean, it's blindingly obvious.

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 10:19

Indianrollerbird · 27/11/2025 10:19

Maybe he was the editor of the astrology section in the News of the World.

😂😂😂

BrillantBriony · 27/11/2025 10:29

MrsFinkelstein · 27/11/2025 09:59

Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on this.

If journalists had proof of an affair they would print it. NDAs would only apply in English courts - Scottish editions would publish as would international editions. The English press would absolutely get round it - they have with plenty of NDAs previously. The US press would be all over it.

I have no.idea if William has or hasn't had an affair, but the suggestion journalists knew and had proof but couldn't print it because of a court order is utterly ludicrous.

You are just repeating salacious gossip founded on rumours - at least own it.

Honestly, I’m not. I’m being 100% honest but you do you - totally respect that.

The press knew about Jimmy Saville they sat on the story until they couldn’t. The press have had all the information on Prince Andrew but they sat on it. They have a symbiotic relationship with the royals, they ran the recent stories on Andrew because documents were being leaked. I would tell you who was leaking it but you would probably struggle with that information too. In fact it would really blow your mind.

I know my post is going to trigger people, but surely you must realise that the royal press agents have weekly meetings with the press to curate, and be on the same page about were they are focusing public attention when it comes to royal matters.

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 10:30

It does make me laugh, the shit William gets on here for having an affair for which there is no evidence, when Harry is the one pictured naked with a bunch of women in Vegas while he was in a relationship. And the shit Kate gets for her supposed racism when Harry “don’t worry, she’s not black or anything” is the proven racist in the family.

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 10:34

No, I don't believe in conspiracy theories. The whole Savile thing is immensely complex. It wasn't a case of "the press" sitting on it, or "the press" knowing all about Andrew.
There is no such thing anyway, there are different news outlets with different editorial policies who have always been in huge competition with each other. There is no way they'd all make such an agreement.
The Royals do not "control" the press.
Tell that to the King, what with all the myriad of negative stories about him, not least the whole "tampon gate" nonsense.

IcedPurple · 27/11/2025 10:34

BrillantBriony · 27/11/2025 10:29

Honestly, I’m not. I’m being 100% honest but you do you - totally respect that.

The press knew about Jimmy Saville they sat on the story until they couldn’t. The press have had all the information on Prince Andrew but they sat on it. They have a symbiotic relationship with the royals, they ran the recent stories on Andrew because documents were being leaked. I would tell you who was leaking it but you would probably struggle with that information too. In fact it would really blow your mind.

I know my post is going to trigger people, but surely you must realise that the royal press agents have weekly meetings with the press to curate, and be on the same page about were they are focusing public attention when it comes to royal matters.

Who's 'triggered'?

You're just an anonymous poster on a glorified gossip forum. You could be anyone, or noone. Same as any of us here.

I have no idea if William had an affair or not. I've seen no evidence, but it wouldn't particularly surprise me if he did. None of us really has a clue what goes on in anyone else's marriage. But this idea that you have a 'source' who is '100% certain' not only about things which have allegedly already happened, but about what will happen in the future? Surely you can see why people are a tad sceptical about that?

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 10:36

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 10:30

It does make me laugh, the shit William gets on here for having an affair for which there is no evidence, when Harry is the one pictured naked with a bunch of women in Vegas while he was in a relationship. And the shit Kate gets for her supposed racism when Harry “don’t worry, she’s not black or anything” is the proven racist in the family.

Plus, all the negative stuff that's actually from Harry himself. Which shows you how much the Palace protected him! I thought he was a friendly, cheeky chappie. I'd no idea he was so awful. I'm glad he told us.

gishgalloping · 27/11/2025 10:42

Exactly, there’s never the slightest bit of evidence.

No one ever said anything about William having an affair until Giles Coren, as he has admitted himself, made a drunk tweet pretending he knew some gossip about the royal family. Then suddenly hordes of people had “always known” or had journalist friends who had confirmed had happened and would definitely happen again.

At least when people make fun of Harry’s frostbitten penis, they’re doing so based on the words in his own book.

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 10:43

gishgalloping · 27/11/2025 10:42

Exactly, there’s never the slightest bit of evidence.

No one ever said anything about William having an affair until Giles Coren, as he has admitted himself, made a drunk tweet pretending he knew some gossip about the royal family. Then suddenly hordes of people had “always known” or had journalist friends who had confirmed had happened and would definitely happen again.

At least when people make fun of Harry’s frostbitten penis, they’re doing so based on the words in his own book.

That's the difference.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 27/11/2025 10:45

NewAgeNewMe · 27/11/2025 08:22

My heart goes out to you @Sweetiedarling7

@DisforDarkChocolate think I read it was Blair’s idea. It wasn’t a great decision in hindsight but Prince Philip had walked behind his sister’s coffin so he may have thought it was ok.

I heard Alastair Campbell recently deny that entirely in some podcast when it came up there weren't initially in favour of it at but got involved after decsion was made to help organised it - he also said Prince Philip wasn't in favour but said if they were doing it he'd go with them.

He thinks it was coming from Charles PR people and palace courtiers more widely. He also thinks emotional pressure was applied to William to agree.

I think he's been fairly consistant with that view - but who knows so much finger pointing about a very poor decsion.

I don't think anyone know how much money Mehan and Harry are making. Also of the headline figures in media even if true aren't take home money but for produation costs as well. Like Meghan wages from her acting career - she had to live of that money and pay others like her agents out of it. Even if they said it wouldn't be reliable as they talked about being cut off when Charles was still subsiding them by a considerable amount.

They do have substainal costs though - mainly security and lifestyle and court case costs. I also don't think currently she makes money off the hate - lots of other people do but can't see how she managing to not to any significant degree. They hardly on their uppers yet though and expect most of Harry money is still tied up in trusts.

jeffgoldblum · 27/11/2025 10:49

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 10:36

Plus, all the negative stuff that's actually from Harry himself. Which shows you how much the Palace protected him! I thought he was a friendly, cheeky chappie. I'd no idea he was so awful. I'm glad he told us.

I like the moral Meghan narrative!
cheated on her husband with Corey, cheated on Corey with Harry but yes totally offended by William apparently cheating on Catherine! 🤣🤣

Mylovelygreendress · 27/11/2025 11:37

And interestingly , Giles Coren had very recently socialised with H and M in Soho House so it is possible that something was hinted at . It was widely reported that Meghan was furious that she wasn’t invited to a State Banquet as she was only H’s girlfriend. At that event Harry accompanied Rose as her husband was on official duty.
Can anyone seriously imagine H and M would have kept quiet about an affair ??
And didn’t Rose get lawyers involved ?

MrsFinkelstein · 27/11/2025 11:43

The press knew about Jimmy Saville they sat on the story until they couldn’t. The press have had all the information on Prince Andrew but they sat on it.

Yet again, more complete misrepresentation of facts. You do realise we were there too?

The Press may have suspected Saville but had zero evidence until victims came forward after he died.

Andrew's relationship with Epstein was publicised back in 2010 when the photos of them in NY were published. He was roundly criticised then. Also after the photo of him and Virginia Guiffre was published. He stepped back and was stripped of working Royal status in 2019. The recent stories about him only became public knowledge because previously unknown emails were released and Lownie published his book. The Press didn't sit on anything, they published when they knew about it and could back it up.

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coolmum123 · 27/11/2025 12:19

Thedom · 27/11/2025 09:26

There could be some truth in it, but absolutely Meghan and Harry would not be staying quiet if they had any evidence of this at all, Meghan seems to hate Catherine and be very jealous of her, she would love to try to destroy her, especially that the racist claim didn’t work out the way she hoped it would.

We do know Harry was a cheater, he cheated on both his longstanding girlfriends and Meghan is rumoured to have cheated on her first husband with the Canadian chef and then cheated on the Canadian chef with Harry.

Also there are rumours of Harry cheating on Meghan with more than one, a surf instructor and one other, since they moved to Cali.

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Really?! Where has this rumour been floating around? Ive not heard it till today.

ThePoshUns · 27/11/2025 12:20

coolmum123 · 27/11/2025 12:19

Really?! Where has this rumour been floating around? Ive not heard it till today.

I think plucked from thin air

gishgalloping · 27/11/2025 12:29

If Harry was having an affair, it would be a worldwide news. Journalists would be desperate to break that story. I really doubt that either William or Harry are having affairs. There's no evidence of it anywhere.

Thedom · 27/11/2025 12:37

ThePoshUns · 27/11/2025 12:20

I think plucked from thin air

Exactly, it was blind gossip, similar to William rumours ! Could be something behind it, but also might not be. But we do know Harry has form for cheating on his partners.

Benjithedog · 27/11/2025 12:45

ninjahamster · 25/11/2025 23:40

Such bullshit I think.

Meghan owes the royal family nothing so I don’t really see how any mistakes can be attributed to her.

Harry wrote the memoir, maybe that was a mistake? He certainly has more loyalties to the royal family than she does. HOWEVER, he was really badly treated as a young grieving child, being made to follow the coffin of his mother. The royal family have traditionally been emotionally negligent and do seem to be trying to move that along but the damage is done with regards to him.

She owes the RF everything.

Zubble · 27/11/2025 13:02

gishgalloping · 27/11/2025 12:29

If Harry was having an affair, it would be a worldwide news. Journalists would be desperate to break that story. I really doubt that either William or Harry are having affairs. There's no evidence of it anywhere.

Yes, if there was anything verifiable, for either of them, then the press would be all over it. Not necessarily the British press (I don't know how far the RF is protected), but the international press for sure.

There was that incident where topless photos of Catherine doing yoga were taken (with a super-long-distance lens, by someone who'd climbed up a pole to see over their garden wall) and got published, despite clear invasion of privacy - although not in the UK. No way that evidence of William or Harry cheating would be hushed up.

Benjithedog · 27/11/2025 13:02

ahoyshipmate · 26/11/2025 18:38

I think they’ll end up billionaires as people seem obsessed with them so there is money to be made

How exactly? They have no brand deals one season of a TV show since cancelled, a defunct podcast. Anyone of any note doesn’t seem to want anything to do with them

Benjithedog · 27/11/2025 13:11

Sundayafternooning · 27/11/2025 08:38

I have heard the same thing about the affair from people who know some of their friends. If it did happen, they seem to have come through it and seem stronger for it. Who are we to judge? I don’t think Meghan is in any position to pass judgement .

I doubt any of Williams friends would have told anyone anything if it was happening. All this Williams had an affair because my husband’s aunt second cousin once removed told me”is straight out of the Markle playbook i.e. spout a lot of accusations without a shred of proof

EmpressSisi · 27/11/2025 13:23

Even the Sussexes’ mouthpiece, Omid Scobie, doesn’t actually believe William had an affair. He thinks the rumour has persisted only because the royals have never publicly addressed it (and they probably never will, due to the “never complain, never explain” approach).

“They never addressed it, so those rumours will never go away even though there’s no truth to suggest that they are true,”

And, of course, Scobie has skin in the game. He didn’t hesitate to toss Catherine under the bus when he conveniently “leaked” that she was the royal racist without any proof. So, quite telling

It’s laughable really. Standard Squad textbook tactics 📗 🥨

IcedPurple · 27/11/2025 13:23

Benjithedog · 27/11/2025 13:11

I doubt any of Williams friends would have told anyone anything if it was happening. All this Williams had an affair because my husband’s aunt second cousin once removed told me”is straight out of the Markle playbook i.e. spout a lot of accusations without a shred of proof

I agree. William and Kate keep their friends very close indeed. No way any real friends are going to go blabbing to randoms about something as damaging as an alleged affair.

As I said above, I'm neutral on the William affair rumours. I hope they're not true and I've seen no real evidence to support them, but who really knows? However, the idea that folks on the internet have access to all this credible inside info does not ring true to me.

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