Tina Brown on Harry/Meghan

[MsAmerica]

Tina Brown Thinks the Über-Rich Have It Coming
By Lulu Garcia-Navarro

Lulu Garcia-Navarro: One of your other specialties is the royal family. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are trying to make their own way in the world. They’ve had a rocky time being entrepreneurs. Do you think they have anything to offer anymore?

Tina Brown: It’s very sad what’s happened to them. I have never seen anybody in professional life make as many mistakes as Meghan has, and unfortunately Harry is not the brightest bulb, either. He thought that Meghan would be his guide in the big wide world beyond Buckingham Palace, and it turns out that Meghan makes one terrible professional decision after another. And now they’re pariahs everywhere, it seems, which is a very difficult situation for them because America was supposed to be the place that paid the bills.

What is sad is that Harry’s very good at being a prince. He’s charming, he’s upbeat, he’s attractive, he makes people happy when he walks into a room, he’s very good with young people. You could send him around the world and he’s always going to be welcomed and appealing. And I think he has realized too late that he was born to be a prince. And now he’s essentially just some guy doing P.R. gigs while Meghan tries out her latest cooking idea or whatever.

It looks more and more as if Harry’s best decision would be to find a way to come back to England. I’d like to see a way for him to make amends with his family, but it gets harder and harder as the years go by. I think that William is going to be the decider of that, and I think William has a very tough view of the whole situation, which is that the betrayal of Harry is not something that can be remedied.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/15/magazine/tina-brown-interview.html

Well we do.

Harry got 2 A levels, B in Art (and we know a teacher admitted doing coursework for him to get a pass) and a D in geography. He left the Army because he had failed the exams to progress to higher ranks.

William got 3 A levels and then a 2:1 degree from St Andrews. He also passed all required exams in the RAF and Air Ambulance Service.

As for "less awful" all the evidence we have for either is that which is presented to us by them.

I agree with this. I think she has totally embraced the hate because it’s still making money and let’s face it she is one of the most famous women in the world, which is what she always wanted. She can’t step outside without it being reported and endlessly analysed which goes on until the next time she steps outside. I don’t think she cares a fig about being liked though she probably pretends she does because it keeps the sympathy and support flowing from the likes of Oprah. Harry on the other hand…I should think having gone from beloved Prince Of The Realm to that grifter in Montecito will have taken a huge toll on his already fragile mental health.

I disagree. I think she cares desperately, maybe not about being 'liked', but about being admired and envied. She's extremely controlling about her public image. Hence the constant clap backs.

And is she really 'one of the most famous women in the world'? Outside of the English speaking world I really doubt she's all that famous. I also don't see how she's making money from the 'hate'. How exactly?

I still don't see how she personally is making money from hate. It doesn't seen like her as ever stuff can be making her that much money and none of her other projects seem that successful.

She isn't a global ambassador for any major brand or anything like that.

I honestly think they must be a bit worried about money. Although I fully believe Harry has loads of money tied up in trusts but it is not billionaire money . . . She needs to monetise the hate but not sure how she can do that unless she has a TikTok account maybe.

It’s generating interest in her and I think any sort of interest for her is preferable to sinking into obscurity. She has a desperate
need to be seen and heard. Even if she is being mocked. It’s very odd.

I agree, she is very much pursuing celebrity. It's all about getting headlines, getting her pictures out there, generating interest.
Obscurity is the worst option for this kind of person.

I did read that, prior to Harry, she was trying to get on one of those reality shows - I think Made in Chelsea?
She strikes me as ideal for this sort of thing. Maybe she could do a Real Housewives show or At Home with the Sussexes, which I suspect may be on the cards.

I think she's way too controlling of her image to allow anything like that.

For a 'reality show' to work, you have to allow viewers into your life, or at least create the illusion that you are allowing them into your life. So you have to be seen on your bad days as well as your good days, arguing with your partner, getting annoyed at silly things and so on. Meghan, sorry The Duchess, doesn't want to be seen as anything less than perfect, so it would be an extremely dull reality show.

Yes, that's true. I would assume she would just continue with "Harry loves me so much" and "he loves me boldly" and other stuff like that, which would, if course, would be an interesting presentation of her life, if not entirely accurate.

Shes obviously got psychological issues. That things about being announced as the (meaningless, now) Duchess of Sussex to an empty room. Thats just weird.

Yes, that really is very odd

I think they’ll end up billionaires as people seem obsessed with them so there is money to be made

I would imagine she has an eye on when KC passes away. She will be entitled to a hell of a lot more from Harry should they divorce. KC is surely going to leave him a lot of loot..

As for Harry being traumatised around his mum's funeral. I guess none of us have a relatable experience however there comes a point as a grown man, a father and husband where you need to move on from it. Get therapy, yes it was s**t but count your blessings. Basically take accountability for your own life, take back control of things. He was dealt a horrible blow around his mum but he wasn't dealt the worst cards in life. You would think someone who talks about being a humanitarian would have looked inward by now, be thankful what he does have.

William married much, much better than Harry. And that has made a hell of a difference.

Yes. But not generating her loads of revenue.

Tina Brown is as savvy as they come about American culture. And she's a Brit, so she understands that aspect as well.

It’s post like this that makes me wonder why I am on Mumsnet. I don’t know how people can be so invested in the lives of people that they claim to hate. Some of you here have even diagnosed Harry and Megan with mental health issues. The only thing you know about them is what you read on social media. I can’t even begin to wrap my head around how people can hate people they don’t know so much. How has Harry and Megan’s actions impacted your lives? This obsession with Harry and Megan is beyond comprehension

How does her face being in the Daily Mail generate revenue for Meghan?

If you see "hate" then report it. Criticism isn't hate.
The only information we get on them is from social media?!
No.
It's from themselves. Directly and frequently. Their words. On Oprah, the Netflix series, "Spare" and all those book interviews, Ellen, The Cut, countless interviews on tv and magazines. It's all directly from the Sussexes.
Not social media.
They talk about themselves a lot.

@FleurDeFleur how has whatever they said impacted your life. Why do you take pleasure in criticising people you don’t know? Are you perfect yourself. Don’t criticise people if you haven’t walked in their shoes

You're criticising me and you haven't walked in my shoes.
Take your own advice.

I’m not interested in having a war of words with you. Have fun criticising Harry and Megan

Ok.

It's also obvious that William has worked on himself, his temperament, his engagement with others. He accepts that he's a public figure which is going to attract criticism - a lot on these threads for starters! However, he doesn't whinge about it, he cracks on with the job.

The only thing you know about them is what you read on social media.

I mean that's just wrong, isn't it? As a PP said, they have opened up in plenty of places, to plenty of people.

And Harry himself has written (in Spare) about his and Meghan's separate mental health issues. So maybe have a go at him?

That’s not really the case though. Off the top of my head, Harry wrote Spare, there was the Oprah interview, the Netflix series, the podcast. I don’t read about them on SM. They have told us plenty about themselves and others.