Page 5 | Tina Brown on Harry/Meghan

MsAmerica · 2025-11-25T23:34:52+00:00

*Tina Brown Thinks the Über-Rich Have It Coming* By Lulu Garcia-Navarro *Lulu Garcia-Navarro*: One of your other specialties is the royal family. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are trying to make their own way in the world. They’ve had a rocky time being entrepreneurs. Do you think they have anything to offer anymore? *Tina Brown*: It’s very sad what’s happened to them. I have never seen anybody in professional life make as many mistakes as Meghan has, and unfortunately Harry is not the brightest bulb, either. He thought that Meghan would be his guide in the big wide world beyond Buckingham Palace, and it turns out that Meghan makes one terrible professional decision after another. And now they’re pariahs everywhere, it seems, which is a very difficult situation for them because America was supposed to be the place that paid the bills. What is sad is that Harry’s very good at being a prince. He’s charming, he’s upbeat, he’s attractive, he makes people happy when he walks into a room, he’s very good with young people. You could send him around the world and he’s always going to be welcomed and appealing. And I think he has realized too late that he was born to be a prince. And now he’s essentially just some guy doing P.R. gigs while Meghan tries out her latest cooking idea or whatever. It looks more and more as if Harry’s best decision would be to find a way to come back to England. I’d like to see a way for him to make amends with his family, but it gets harder and harder as the years go by. I think that William is going to be the decider of that, and I think William has a very tough view of the whole situation, which is that the betrayal of Harry is not something that can be remedied. [[https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/15/magazine/tina-brown-interview.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/15/magazine/tina-brown-interview.html]]

Sundayafternooning · 27/11/2025 08:38

I have heard the same thing about the affair from people who know some of their friends. If it did happen, they seem to have come through it and seem stronger for it. Who are we to judge? I don’t think Meghan is in any position to pass judgement .

RainbowBagels · 27/11/2025 08:42

IdaGlossop · 26/11/2025 22:59

The walking behind the coffin when so young is an excellent example of the difficulty of making decisions that take account of both family and institution. The boys had one opportunity to walk in the cortege. Had they not done so, they would have risked regretting it for decades to come. Dreadful for them, both the decision and the walking.

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From what both of them have said it wasn't so much the walking behind the coffin that was traumatising but the wailing hysterical grief vampires surrounding them. Grown adult strangers who didnt know their mother crying at two grieving young children.
Absolutely the RF should have put them first but the RF will always behave in a way that protects the institution even if it puts individual members of the family in harms way.

jeffgoldblum · 27/11/2025 08:44

Sweetiedarling7 · 27/11/2025 08:11

Actually I have a relatable experience so my sympathy for Harry is very limited.

Whilst my mum’s funeral was not televised with me walking behind the coffin how about this:

My mother died from a brain tumour when I was 7 after a year of horror.

I have no siblings and had at that point never met my father as my mum had left him after just six weeks of marriage. I presume this was due to abuse but she never told me about that given my age.

I lost not only my lovely mum but my home in the country and my beloved pets, my friends, my school and absolutely everything which was familiar to me because I was sent to live with my father in a big town far away.

He was a cold, bullying and abusive monster. Physically, sexually and emotionally abusive. The emotional abuse was actually the worst thing contrary to what those who have not experienced this might expect.

My childhood from 7 till when I left home at 18 was the stuff of nightmares.

Despite this I have never treated my remaining family like Harry has.

In fact quite the opposite and I cared for my elderly aunt until she died and I even looked after my monstrous father for three months whilst he died of cancer.

I did not have Harry’s money or lovely homes or top school or a loving brother or father or grandparents.

I had zero “therapy”.

I put myself through university.
I pursued a successful and enjoyable career.
I don’t spend my life whining about my past.

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💐 for you .

RainbowBagels · 27/11/2025 08:57

BrillantBriony · 27/11/2025 08:28

My DH’s friend is a journalist and was an Editor for one of the papers obsessed with printing articles on M&H. This person confirmed that William had an affair, and that William will do it again…

At the time when the rumours were swirling around an affair - when Harry and Meghan were getting engaged and consequently married I was socialising with a couple of lawyers, one of whom was besties with a rising city lawyer who worked for the law firm used by the RF. On a very drunken night out my friend confirmed that the affair rumours were 100% true (law firm were doing the ND), and that the affair is what caused the intial fallout. This part is conjecture, but it was perceived that Meghan pushed Harry to confront William about the affair, which Harry would never had done of his own volition.

Meghan was judgemental about the affairs, and ultimately judgemental about William and Kate’s way of life. Mistake one.

I think most people outside the aristocracy are more judgmental than the RF themselves, where as long as no one finds out, no one cares. It would be more surprising if they didnt have affairs. They all do. Kate is all in on the Royals. She has seen how she is expected to behave and what happens if she kicks up a fuss. Shell be out on her ear. Personally if Kate couldnt care less I couldnt care less either whether or not William had or will have affairs. Most monarchs ( especially male ones) have shagged around after marriage as have most of the RF.

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 08:57

@Sweetiedarling7 💐
Credit to you for what you have achieved in life, after such a horrific start.
You should be proud of what you have achieved and I hope that you have happiness and contentment now. 🌻

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 09:01

I think that if William has had an affair and Harry and Meghan know about it, there is zero chance they wouldn’t be making not particularly subtle snide remarks about it at the very least. What would stop them - they have shown repeatedly that they don’t give a shit about other people’s privacy, the feelings of Kate or the Wales children, the reputation of the monarchy. And that they are deeply jealous of W+K and try to outdo them when they can. It might draw attention to their own less than ideal behaviour in past relationships but they certainly don’t mind a bit of hypocrisy either. Trouble in the Wales marriage would be gold dust for them.

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 09:05

Yes. I agree, @NormaMajors1992coat . Harry and Meghan have chosen to monetise the family's privacy since leaving. If William had an affair and Meghan such a moral arbiter, they would have certainly shared that rather than complaining about lipgloss and dog bowls. Harry wrote about his own brother's genitals so we're not talking about a sensitive or moral person there.

VanessaSanessa · 27/11/2025 09:05

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 09:01

I think that if William has had an affair and Harry and Meghan know about it, there is zero chance they wouldn’t be making not particularly subtle snide remarks about it at the very least. What would stop them - they have shown repeatedly that they don’t give a shit about other people’s privacy, the feelings of Kate or the Wales children, the reputation of the monarchy. And that they are deeply jealous of W+K and try to outdo them when they can. It might draw attention to their own less than ideal behaviour in past relationships but they certainly don’t mind a bit of hypocrisy either. Trouble in the Wales marriage would be gold dust for them.

Yes I agree. What's stopping them? Perhaps p**sing off off KC by doing it? Perhaps KC has made some agreement financially with them to shut up?

If they did spill and it couldn't be refuted, it would cause a lot of damage to William and the Monarchy.

And as as aside, WTF business was it of Meghan's to push Harry into confronting PW. It wasn't to protect Kate, she's been out to get her for a while. It was to cause hassle.

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 09:18

Well, who knows about the "journalist" and their purported story. Or Meghan - with her background and job - taking some sort of puritanical high ground.
It all sounds like huge amounts of conjecture. We know a lot about Harry and Meghan because they have literally told us about it. In some detail. William and Kate? Not so much.

Thedom · 27/11/2025 09:26

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 09:01

I think that if William has had an affair and Harry and Meghan know about it, there is zero chance they wouldn’t be making not particularly subtle snide remarks about it at the very least. What would stop them - they have shown repeatedly that they don’t give a shit about other people’s privacy, the feelings of Kate or the Wales children, the reputation of the monarchy. And that they are deeply jealous of W+K and try to outdo them when they can. It might draw attention to their own less than ideal behaviour in past relationships but they certainly don’t mind a bit of hypocrisy either. Trouble in the Wales marriage would be gold dust for them.

There could be some truth in it, but absolutely Meghan and Harry would not be staying quiet if they had any evidence of this at all, Meghan seems to hate Catherine and be very jealous of her, she would love to try to destroy her, especially that the racist claim didn’t work out the way she hoped it would.

We do know Harry was a cheater, he cheated on both his longstanding girlfriends and Meghan is rumoured to have cheated on her first husband with the Canadian chef and then cheated on the Canadian chef with Harry.

Also there are rumours of Harry cheating on Meghan with more than one, a surf instructor and one other, since they moved to Cali.

Thedom · 27/11/2025 09:38

💡💡Maybe all the ‘he loves me so much’ tripe is actually Meghan throwing warning shots at Harry’s mistress/es, and why she never says publicly that she loves him’💡💡

just joking,🙃 but it could be one of the few explanations for those statements that very few people can rationalize

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 09:41

Thedom · 27/11/2025 09:38

💡💡Maybe all the ‘he loves me so much’ tripe is actually Meghan throwing warning shots at Harry’s mistress/es, and why she never says publicly that she loves him’💡💡

just joking,🙃 but it could be one of the few explanations for those statements that very few people can rationalize

Yeah, it's kind of strange to keep telling everyone how much your husband loves you.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/11/2025 09:51

IdaGlossop · 26/11/2025 23:07

I suspect KCIII's advisers will have found watertight ways of Harry receiving a mega legacy from pa, ringfenced in steel to keep Meghan's paws off it even in the event of a divorce. And trust funds for Archie and Lilibet too, also protected.

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Almost certainly, IdaGlossop - or at least they will if they have any sense

It's perfectly true that much goes directly from monarch to monarch, but there's still the personal wealth, and even if that involves tax being paid it could still leave a hell of a lot to enjoy

Indianrollerbird · 27/11/2025 09:54

Untailored · 27/11/2025 08:35

IF this is true then it makes Harry & Meghan into bloody saints, if you ask me.

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Oh that’s good, one of my friends is a partner at Farrer & Co, I’ll let him know one of his employees doesn’t understand client confidentiality.

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 09:55

Indianrollerbird · 27/11/2025 09:54

Oh that’s good, one of my friends is a partner at Farrer & Co, I’ll let him know one of his employees doesn’t understand client confidentiality.

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If you wouldn't mind! Glad to know that it's all being spread around all and sundry 😉

Thedom · 27/11/2025 09:58

just curious, and a bit morbid, but if the King leaves an inheritance for Harry and his offspring, considering they are based overseas, will that mean it will be the first public glance we will get to see of the details of a Royal inheritance, or will that also be shrouded in secrecy?

MrsFinkelstein · 27/11/2025 09:59

BrillantBriony · 27/11/2025 08:28

My DH’s friend is a journalist and was an Editor for one of the papers obsessed with printing articles on M&H. This person confirmed that William had an affair, and that William will do it again…

At the time when the rumours were swirling around an affair - when Harry and Meghan were getting engaged and consequently married I was socialising with a couple of lawyers, one of whom was besties with a rising city lawyer who worked for the law firm used by the RF. On a very drunken night out my friend confirmed that the affair rumours were 100% true (law firm were doing the ND), and that the affair is what caused the intial fallout. This part is conjecture, but it was perceived that Meghan pushed Harry to confront William about the affair, which Harry would never had done of his own volition.

Meghan was judgemental about the affairs, and ultimately judgemental about William and Kate’s way of life. Mistake one.

Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on this.

If journalists had proof of an affair they would print it. NDAs would only apply in English courts - Scottish editions would publish as would international editions. The English press would absolutely get round it - they have with plenty of NDAs previously. The US press would be all over it.

I have no.idea if William has or hasn't had an affair, but the suggestion journalists knew and had proof but couldn't print it because of a court order is utterly ludicrous.

You are just repeating salacious gossip founded on rumours - at least own it.

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 10:05

How could the DH friend confirm William’s intention to have an affair in the future, I wonder.. had William confided in a tabloid editor about his libidinous plans?

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 10:05

Also, that it came from someone in Farrer & Co?
The RF law team members get drunk and tell "journalists" juicy details about them on a night out?
Ok.
@Indianrollerbird is right to contact one of the partners.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/11/2025 10:05

Thedom · 27/11/2025 09:58

just curious, and a bit morbid, but if the King leaves an inheritance for Harry and his offspring, considering they are based overseas, will that mean it will be the first public glance we will get to see of the details of a Royal inheritance, or will that also be shrouded in secrecy?

Not being a lawyer I can't offer a definitive answer, Thedom, but with royal wills being sealed it's surely unlikely that foreign sources could get hold of them either?

Of course that leaves the possibility of Harry blabbing, but even he may not be told all the contents of the will - unless he's an executor, which I very much doubt

jeffgoldblum · 27/11/2025 10:08

@BrillantBriony do please forward the name of the lawyer to @Indianrollerbird I’m sure she would like to pass it on.

Sundayafternooning · 27/11/2025 10:09

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 09:41

Yeah, it's kind of strange to keep telling everyone how much your husband loves you.

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It’s a way of telling us all, see I’m such a prize catch!

gishgalloping · 27/11/2025 10:15

How can a journalist confirm that William “will do it again”? Do they have a crystal ball? Is the journalist’s name Mystic Meg?

Such nonsense.

FleurDeFleur · 27/11/2025 10:16

gishgalloping · 27/11/2025 10:15

How can a journalist confirm that William “will do it again”? Do they have a crystal ball? Is the journalist’s name Mystic Meg?

Such nonsense.

😂😂
It really is laughable.

Mylovelygreendress · 27/11/2025 10:17

bumptybum · 27/11/2025 07:25

I agree that the RF have always been toxic and I believe Harry was always used as the fall guy to protect William and then Kate’s image.

i deeply suspect Kate was not at all welcoming. Stories of their first meetings contrast enormously with the behaviours Kate demonstrate in public. Williams descriptions confirm the stiff behaviour of Kate at the initial meetings. No hugs, formal clothes etc where we see Kate hugging everyone

But I do think Harry is very damaged (due to losing his mother and then the toxic family) and I do think Meghan is remarkable bad at reading the room, seeing outside her own self constructed image of herself and I do believe she makes terrible decisions. She goes against the advice of all the experts she hire, alienates them and then fails spectacularly. One would think she would have learned by now that she’s not very good at what she is trying to do.

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Do you have examples of where Harry was the “ fall guy”?
Just because Catherine wasn’t gushing over Meghan when she first met her , doesn’t mean she is cold . I would imagine she ( and William ) were wary . I have no doubt that there would have been some behind the scenes investigation into Meghan and who knows what was thrown up ?!