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Tina Brown on Harry/Meghan

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MsAmerica · 25/11/2025 23:34

Tina Brown Thinks the Über-Rich Have It Coming
By Lulu Garcia-Navarro

Lulu Garcia-Navarro: One of your other specialties is the royal family. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are trying to make their own way in the world. They’ve had a rocky time being entrepreneurs. Do you think they have anything to offer anymore?

Tina Brown: It’s very sad what’s happened to them. I have never seen anybody in professional life make as many mistakes as Meghan has, and unfortunately Harry is not the brightest bulb, either. He thought that Meghan would be his guide in the big wide world beyond Buckingham Palace, and it turns out that Meghan makes one terrible professional decision after another. And now they’re pariahs everywhere, it seems, which is a very difficult situation for them because America was supposed to be the place that paid the bills.

What is sad is that Harry’s very good at being a prince. He’s charming, he’s upbeat, he’s attractive, he makes people happy when he walks into a room, he’s very good with young people. You could send him around the world and he’s always going to be welcomed and appealing. And I think he has realized too late that he was born to be a prince. And now he’s essentially just some guy doing P.R. gigs while Meghan tries out her latest cooking idea or whatever.

It looks more and more as if Harry’s best decision would be to find a way to come back to England. I’d like to see a way for him to make amends with his family, but it gets harder and harder as the years go by. I think that William is going to be the decider of that, and I think William has a very tough view of the whole situation, which is that the betrayal of Harry is not something that can be remedied.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/15/magazine/tina-brown-interview.html

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WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 26/11/2025 20:36

Bossbabyxmas · 25/11/2025 23:45

I dont think she’s doing that badly given she’s got a high profile Netflix show and her face plastered over the daily mail every day, generating them loads of revenue.

She had a Netflix show 😂 they’ve learned third lesson after woeful figures, that door has closed.

Tina Brown is bang on the money here.

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/11/2025 21:40

NotThatWay · 26/11/2025 19:24

Yes. But not generating her loads of revenue.

Tina Brown is as savvy as they come about American culture. And she's a Brit, so she understands that aspect as well.

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How much money does she make?

Snowonground · 26/11/2025 22:19

ahoyshipmate · 26/11/2025 18:38

I think they’ll end up billionaires as people seem obsessed with them so there is money to be made

There arent that many nitwits keen to buy a wickless candle in the world, surely?!

Fairgamer · 26/11/2025 22:19

MrsFinkelstein · 26/11/2025 08:00

Her Shop my page is blank, and none of her recent As ever products have sold out, NF now say they aren't going to stock her products in their physical stores. Her NF show isnt getting renewed. Neither is her podcast.

She's absolutely not poor - but she isn't monetising anything from DM clicks.

Ir sold out in first time. Now she made a way bigger demand to prevent it. I don't know from where it's any failure. Good if they want to get the rich though, including Meghan and Harry. But then it has nothing to do with royal family but taxes and other thing happening in USA

MsAmerica · 26/11/2025 22:24

Dorosomethingbeautiful · 26/11/2025 04:00

@MsAmerica what exactly is the point of this post?

Just thought this forum might find it interesting. And, considering the number of replies, I was right.

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Snowonground · 26/11/2025 22:55

Fairgamer · 26/11/2025 22:19

Ir sold out in first time. Now she made a way bigger demand to prevent it. I don't know from where it's any failure. Good if they want to get the rich though, including Meghan and Harry. But then it has nothing to do with royal family but taxes and other thing happening in USA

Be interesting to see how many pots of jam she sells when shes just a plain Mrs. Which will be soon. Not many people in the UK think those titles should stay and of course the UK is the relevant country in that decision. Not the US.

IdaGlossop · 26/11/2025 22:59

Dollymylove · 26/11/2025 09:35

They weren't "forced" to walk behind their mother's coffin. They wanted to but the grown ups thought it wouldnt be appropriate. Prince Phillip offered to walk with them for moral support

The walking behind the coffin when so young is an excellent example of the difficulty of making decisions that take account of both family and institution. The boys had one opportunity to walk in the cortege. Had they not done so, they would have risked regretting it for decades to come. Dreadful for them, both the decision and the walking.

Sundayafternooning · 26/11/2025 23:02

Snowonground · 26/11/2025 22:55

Be interesting to see how many pots of jam she sells when shes just a plain Mrs. Which will be soon. Not many people in the UK think those titles should stay and of course the UK is the relevant country in that decision. Not the US.

The decision won’t be taken on the basis of what the public think though will it?

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/11/2025 23:05

Snowonground · 26/11/2025 22:55

Be interesting to see how many pots of jam she sells when shes just a plain Mrs. Which will be soon. Not many people in the UK think those titles should stay and of course the UK is the relevant country in that decision. Not the US.

You think she makes her money from pots of jam?

IdaGlossop · 26/11/2025 23:07

VanessaSanessa · 26/11/2025 18:51

I would imagine she has an eye on when KC passes away. She will be entitled to a hell of a lot more from Harry should they divorce. KC is surely going to leave him a lot of loot..

As for Harry being traumatised around his mum's funeral. I guess none of us have a relatable experience however there comes a point as a grown man, a father and husband where you need to move on from it. Get therapy, yes it was s**t but count your blessings. Basically take accountability for your own life, take back control of things. He was dealt a horrible blow around his mum but he wasn't dealt the worst cards in life. You would think someone who talks about being a humanitarian would have looked inward by now, be thankful what he does have.

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I suspect KCIII's advisers will have found watertight ways of Harry receiving a mega legacy from pa, ringfenced in steel to keep Meghan's paws off it even in the event of a divorce. And trust funds for Archie and Lilibet too, also protected.

Sundayafternooning · 26/11/2025 23:12

IdaGlossop · 26/11/2025 23:07

I suspect KCIII's advisers will have found watertight ways of Harry receiving a mega legacy from pa, ringfenced in steel to keep Meghan's paws off it even in the event of a divorce. And trust funds for Archie and Lilibet too, also protected.

Oh maybe Pa has decided his traitorous ungrateful son doesn’t deserve an inheritance when he’s already burning through the millions he has already.

Snowonground · 26/11/2025 23:51

Sundayafternooning · 26/11/2025 23:02

The decision won’t be taken on the basis of what the public think though will it?

It probably will. You can see the Royals try to avoid public pressure but eventually have to go with it. Eg Andrew.

Snowonground · 26/11/2025 23:51

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/11/2025 23:05

You think she makes her money from pots of jam?

Well jam.and whatever else. The titles are what makes the cash.

IdaGlossop · 27/11/2025 00:05

Sundayafternooning · 26/11/2025 23:12

Oh maybe Pa has decided his traitorous ungrateful son doesn’t deserve an inheritance when he’s already burning through the millions he has already.

Unlikely. Pa is a sentimental man who will not want to come face-to-face with his god having not provided for his weak, foolish ginger boy. Trustees can oversee H being paid a monthly allowance and provision can be made for him to cottage-share with Andrew.

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/11/2025 01:25

Snowonground · 26/11/2025 23:51

Well jam.and whatever else. The titles are what makes the cash.

How much cash do they make?

Snowonground · 27/11/2025 07:03

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/11/2025 01:25

How much cash do they make?

Who cares any more. They are pretty boring now. It used to be vaguely fun watching Meghan embarass herself (karma) but now even that has lost it's appeal. I dont even know what I'm doing on this thread about her so I will sign off now.

bumptybum · 27/11/2025 07:25

ninjahamster · 25/11/2025 23:40

Such bullshit I think.

Meghan owes the royal family nothing so I don’t really see how any mistakes can be attributed to her.

Harry wrote the memoir, maybe that was a mistake? He certainly has more loyalties to the royal family than she does. HOWEVER, he was really badly treated as a young grieving child, being made to follow the coffin of his mother. The royal family have traditionally been emotionally negligent and do seem to be trying to move that along but the damage is done with regards to him.

I agree that the RF have always been toxic and I believe Harry was always used as the fall guy to protect William and then Kate’s image.

i deeply suspect Kate was not at all welcoming. Stories of their first meetings contrast enormously with the behaviours Kate demonstrate in public. Williams descriptions confirm the stiff behaviour of Kate at the initial meetings. No hugs, formal clothes etc where we see Kate hugging everyone

But I do think Harry is very damaged (due to losing his mother and then the toxic family) and I do think Meghan is remarkable bad at reading the room, seeing outside her own self constructed image of herself and I do believe she makes terrible decisions. She goes against the advice of all the experts she hire, alienates them and then fails spectacularly. One would think she would have learned by now that she’s not very good at what she is trying to do.

DisforDarkChocolate · 27/11/2025 07:43

ninjahamster · 25/11/2025 23:58

Agree. William must have severe trauma too.

It was a dreadful decision by the royal family, purely done for their own ends knowing it's was a terrible thing for Will and Harry.

One thing though, Harry was obviously younger and less important to the family than William.

Talltreesbythelake · 27/11/2025 07:49

They could not have predicted how batshit-insane the people lining the route would act, though. This was a custom for Royal funerals and the crowd would be somber and respectful not howling fake tears and flinging whole bouquets at the hearse.

Sweetiedarling7 · 27/11/2025 08:11

VanessaSanessa · 26/11/2025 18:51

I would imagine she has an eye on when KC passes away. She will be entitled to a hell of a lot more from Harry should they divorce. KC is surely going to leave him a lot of loot..

As for Harry being traumatised around his mum's funeral. I guess none of us have a relatable experience however there comes a point as a grown man, a father and husband where you need to move on from it. Get therapy, yes it was s**t but count your blessings. Basically take accountability for your own life, take back control of things. He was dealt a horrible blow around his mum but he wasn't dealt the worst cards in life. You would think someone who talks about being a humanitarian would have looked inward by now, be thankful what he does have.

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Actually I have a relatable experience so my sympathy for Harry is very limited.

Whilst my mum’s funeral was not televised with me walking behind the coffin how about this:

My mother died from a brain tumour when I was 7 after a year of horror.

I have no siblings and had at that point never met my father as my mum had left him after just six weeks of marriage. I presume this was due to abuse but she never told me about that given my age.

I lost not only my lovely mum but my home in the country and my beloved pets, my friends, my school and absolutely everything which was familiar to me because I was sent to live with my father in a big town far away.

He was a cold, bullying and abusive monster. Physically, sexually and emotionally abusive. The emotional abuse was actually the worst thing contrary to what those who have not experienced this might expect.

My childhood from 7 till when I left home at 18 was the stuff of nightmares.

Despite this I have never treated my remaining family like Harry has.

In fact quite the opposite and I cared for my elderly aunt until she died and I even looked after my monstrous father for three months whilst he died of cancer.

I did not have Harry’s money or lovely homes or top school or a loving brother or father or grandparents.

I had zero “therapy”.

I put myself through university.
I pursued a successful and enjoyable career.
I don’t spend my life whining about my past.

VanessaSanessa · 27/11/2025 08:20

Sweetiedarling7 · 27/11/2025 08:11

Actually I have a relatable experience so my sympathy for Harry is very limited.

Whilst my mum’s funeral was not televised with me walking behind the coffin how about this:

My mother died from a brain tumour when I was 7 after a year of horror.

I have no siblings and had at that point never met my father as my mum had left him after just six weeks of marriage. I presume this was due to abuse but she never told me about that given my age.

I lost not only my lovely mum but my home in the country and my beloved pets, my friends, my school and absolutely everything which was familiar to me because I was sent to live with my father in a big town far away.

He was a cold, bullying and abusive monster. Physically, sexually and emotionally abusive. The emotional abuse was actually the worst thing contrary to what those who have not experienced this might expect.

My childhood from 7 till when I left home at 18 was the stuff of nightmares.

Despite this I have never treated my remaining family like Harry has.

In fact quite the opposite and I cared for my elderly aunt until she died and I even looked after my monstrous father for three months whilst he died of cancer.

I did not have Harry’s money or lovely homes or top school or a loving brother or father or grandparents.

I had zero “therapy”.

I put myself through university.
I pursued a successful and enjoyable career.
I don’t spend my life whining about my past.

I'm so sorry you had that experience, utterly awful. I just wanted to say how brave and amazing you sound and I mean that. People like you are worth admiring and I hope your life now is wonderful.

Harry the humanitarian could do with a chat with you, he might start to come into the real world.

NewAgeNewMe · 27/11/2025 08:22

My heart goes out to you @Sweetiedarling7

@DisforDarkChocolate think I read it was Blair’s idea. It wasn’t a great decision in hindsight but Prince Philip had walked behind his sister’s coffin so he may have thought it was ok.

BrillantBriony · 27/11/2025 08:28

My DH’s friend is a journalist and was an Editor for one of the papers obsessed with printing articles on M&H. This person confirmed that William had an affair, and that William will do it again…

At the time when the rumours were swirling around an affair - when Harry and Meghan were getting engaged and consequently married I was socialising with a couple of lawyers, one of whom was besties with a rising city lawyer who worked for the law firm used by the RF. On a very drunken night out my friend confirmed that the affair rumours were 100% true (law firm were doing the ND), and that the affair is what caused the intial fallout. This part is conjecture, but it was perceived that Meghan pushed Harry to confront William about the affair, which Harry would never had done of his own volition.

Meghan was judgemental about the affairs, and ultimately judgemental about William and Kate’s way of life. Mistake one.

Talltreesbythelake · 27/11/2025 08:30

BrillantBriony · 27/11/2025 08:28

My DH’s friend is a journalist and was an Editor for one of the papers obsessed with printing articles on M&H. This person confirmed that William had an affair, and that William will do it again…

At the time when the rumours were swirling around an affair - when Harry and Meghan were getting engaged and consequently married I was socialising with a couple of lawyers, one of whom was besties with a rising city lawyer who worked for the law firm used by the RF. On a very drunken night out my friend confirmed that the affair rumours were 100% true (law firm were doing the ND), and that the affair is what caused the intial fallout. This part is conjecture, but it was perceived that Meghan pushed Harry to confront William about the affair, which Harry would never had done of his own volition.

Meghan was judgemental about the affairs, and ultimately judgemental about William and Kate’s way of life. Mistake one.

Meghan is judgemental about affairs? How does she judge ending a marriage by mailing the ring to the dumped spouse?

Untailored · 27/11/2025 08:35

BrillantBriony · 27/11/2025 08:28

My DH’s friend is a journalist and was an Editor for one of the papers obsessed with printing articles on M&H. This person confirmed that William had an affair, and that William will do it again…

At the time when the rumours were swirling around an affair - when Harry and Meghan were getting engaged and consequently married I was socialising with a couple of lawyers, one of whom was besties with a rising city lawyer who worked for the law firm used by the RF. On a very drunken night out my friend confirmed that the affair rumours were 100% true (law firm were doing the ND), and that the affair is what caused the intial fallout. This part is conjecture, but it was perceived that Meghan pushed Harry to confront William about the affair, which Harry would never had done of his own volition.

Meghan was judgemental about the affairs, and ultimately judgemental about William and Kate’s way of life. Mistake one.

IF this is true then it makes Harry & Meghan into bloody saints, if you ask me.