Andrew to be investigated by the Met Police

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-15206253/Met-Police-launch-probe-Prince-Andrew.html

Close friends with Jimmy Savile. That speaks for itself.

Supported paedophile bishop Peter Ball after he was cautioned - both financially and in a series of letters to PB commiserating with him about the impact of his victims' attempts to seek justice. One of Charles's letters to him referred to one of his accusers as a 'ghastly man.....up to his dastardly tricks again'. (one of his victims committed suicide). Claimed afterwards that he had been 'misled'; apparently it did not occur to him to look into the truth of the matter.

That is quite apart from the dodgy charity work, cash in carrier bags, opaque financial dealings, profiteering though the Duchies on the back of charities and public institutions such as the NHS and the military, and being exposed as a slumlord. And that is just what we know about.

So that’s why Chas suddenly grew a backbone! He got wind of this /was tipped off. The spawny old sod.

This is also an interesting one.

What was done with the request?

Was it reported to superiors?

Was it acted on? Did anyone go digging?

Non story. Labour probably planted it to detract from the daily shit show.

I’m very glad indeed that last week’s pretty transparent diversion appears not to have worked.
RF really must believe the plebs are very stupid indeed.

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Oh, what you will find about this is it will always be someone else's investigations that bring this about, never the Royal Family's. Same with the Met for that matter, it's the BBC that exposed Charing Cross station's behaviour, don't expect the Met to do uncover stuff on themselves.

Lord Mountbatten was said to have sexually abused lads in a Northern Ireland care home, in a reputable biography reviewed in the Times, may even have been by the same author behind the recent Andrew and Fergie bio.

It's now said, ooh, look at the way William is showing distaste for Andrew and is taking a hard line - well, alright, but he seemed happy to throw his own brother under a bus re feeding stories to the tabloids so he won't hesitate on the issue of Andrew, it's not necessarily high-minded, may as well be self-preservation.

Erm, this was years ago when Labour were in opposition, not sure this one makes sense. The police were incriminated in wrongdoing aka grooming gangs in Manchester, Rochdale, Rotherham etc so more they wanted to cover it up as well.

I think he’ll move abroad if the police get involved.

Charles has actually done nothing much if at all. Andrew has not been 'stripped' of anything, he was allowed to make his own statement that he will no longer use his titles. So the implication is that this has not been imposed on him but is his own choice; the titles remain his & he could change his mind tomorrow and decide to use them. He keeps his big house and privileged life so zero consequences in fact.

Although it would be trickier to strip Andrew of his dukedom (act of Parliament) Charles could remove his Order of the Garter today if he chose, as it is entirely in the gift of the Monarch. But he is not doing it.

The Met investigation will amount to nothing either, they will 'consider' then drop it as the RF are above the law. It is all smoke and mirrors but I hope one day the public get properly sick of being treated like mugs.

Quite normal for the State to go after anyone who has dirt on them, very adversarial tactics, to discredit the witness. Surrey County Council did it to me when I whistleblow a Surrey care home to the press, also I'd begun to twig they were killing off the elderly in care homes via enforced dehydration, or they thought I had (it took a year or so later before I realised it was deliberate).

Are you sure about that? This just isn’t going away and on top of that, I am sure I recall Princess Anne getting prosecuted for having a dog dangerously out of control or similar.

It's a bit different from having an out of control dog to this.

This could severely damage Brand Monarchy. An out of control dog barely made the headlines and puts a good impression out there that oooh look a member of the RF is being prosecuted. Good publicity

This will be covered up

What stories did William feed to the press about Harry ?

@jumpingthehighjump I wasn't evaluating the gravity of the crime, I was commenting on the suggestion that the RF are above the law. Anyway, this has gone too far for a cover up, and has already severely damaged the monarchy.

I don't see how it is illegal for Andrew to ask them to investigate. I'm betting that the police involved will be disciplined but nothing will happen to Andrew, again.

The reigning monarch is indeed above the law. He or she cannot be arrested or prosecuted due to sovereign immunity. The rest of the RF have significant exemptions from the law, some of which are historic and archaic, but most of which have been pushed through by the Monarch to protect the family's interests and wealth. These exemptions cover a wide range, from employment law to animal welfare. Many were petitioned for by the late Queen herself and approved without the knowledge of the general public. Anyway as @jumpingthehighjump says, I have no doubt Anne took one for the team back in 2002. It makes the plebs think the RF are "just like us".

Andrew didn't go through the proper channels, that's why. He somehow obtained Guiffre's NI number (where from?) and asked his Personal Protection Officer (taxpayer funded) to dig some dirt on a victim.
Sounds dodgy to me!

I think what we mean, is the RF is above the law when it comes to serous stuff. In fact, an out of control dog is a god send as police can prosecute for something minor and then the belief they're 'just like us' can be perpetuated futher

It sounds very dodgy to me as well, I'm just not sure that Andrew has committed a crime in this country. Maybe in the US but we know he isn't going there

I wasn't talking about the monarch. As far as I am aware none of the rest of them have any sort of immunity. Look what's happened in Norway.

Let's see what happens before we consign it all to failure. Like I said earlier, this just isn't going away.

Ok I’ll bite … what has KC done?

I agree with pp. The RF "Brand" is in danger. Must do something NOW before the plebs revolt. Make it look good, most of the plebs won't notice that nothing has changed, but the optics are good enough for the idiots.

Hence the fudge on the titles. Andy has NOT been stripped of them, at all. He has merely said he will not use them. That was some smoke and mirrors right there. But we are just stupid peasants remember?

And we think anything will come of a Met investigation? Maybe they'll arrest one of them at Heathrow for saying a man is a man or something. Ten of them this time, five is a ridiculously small number of police for such a thing. (Graham Linehan case for ref.).

As far as I know, it is illegal for an adult in the UK to sleep with a prostitute aged under 18 - so Prince Andrew could possibly be considered to have broken the law.
Of course, Prince Andrew might claim he did not think VG was a prostitute - and/or he did not know she was a groomed sex abuse victim. For that to be true, he would have to say she chose to sleep with him for her own pleasure - which is very hard to believe - this must be why he had to say he couldn’t remember her.