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Media vs. Reality: The Royal Meeting No One Cares About

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ThatAvidViewer · 29/08/2025 13:05

It makes little difference if he meets his father. His role won’t change, and the monarchy or public won’t be affected, yet the media keeps spinning it as if it matters — even though the public doesn’t care.

Prince Harry 'to meet with King Charles' when he returns to UK for anniversary of Queen Elizabeth II's death - as sources say 'reconciliation is within reach' | Daily Mail Online

Prince Harry 'to meet with King Charles' when he returns to UK

Reconciliation is 'within reach' between the Duke of Sussex and his father following an informal peace summit involving Buckingham Palace officials.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15045309/Prince-Harry-King-Charles-returns-UK-reconciliation-reach.html

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Empress13 · 07/09/2025 23:09

Oh no not the Daily Fail again !

Wingroveplatters17 · 08/09/2025 03:31

bluegreygreen · 07/09/2025 22:29

I know who they're talking about - but Andrew wasn't second in line

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Point taken! I should have said “paid £12 million to protect someone who was once second in line to the throne; for 22 years in fact” until William was born.

BemusedAmerican · 08/09/2025 03:46

In five years, Harry has managed to annoy the UK, the US, and Canada. Not to mention the African Parks situation. Rather impressive work on his part.

Wingroveplatters17 · 08/09/2025 03:56

The Prince of Wales, as he then was, did not write a book. He also did not make derogatory comments about disabled matrons, or breach the privacy of teenage grooms. Neither to my knowledge did he describe the private parts of family members

First, Dimbleby quoted from private correspondence and relied on extensive interviews with the Prince of Wales to write the book.

Charles gave unprecedented access to the author and anyone who has read the book knows that it is unquestionably written from a pro-Charles perspective.

Second, Dimbleby wrote that Charles resented Prince Philip, who he saw as a domineering figure who belittled him as an infant, sent him to a school where he was bullied by fellow pupils, and then forced him into a loveless marriage.

Charles also complained that Queen Elizabeth II was a remote figure who let his father handle family matters badly, and the way Diana was portrayed in the book was something any responsible father should have kept to themselves.

Despite clear signs from Buckingham Palace that the book had caused hurt to his family, ie Prince Philip very unusually gave an interview about it calling it “that turgid book”, Charles issued a statement saying he had ``no regrets'' about it.

Hummingbirdtree · 08/09/2025 07:22

Wingroveplatters17 · 08/09/2025 03:56

The Prince of Wales, as he then was, did not write a book. He also did not make derogatory comments about disabled matrons, or breach the privacy of teenage grooms. Neither to my knowledge did he describe the private parts of family members

First, Dimbleby quoted from private correspondence and relied on extensive interviews with the Prince of Wales to write the book.

Charles gave unprecedented access to the author and anyone who has read the book knows that it is unquestionably written from a pro-Charles perspective.

Second, Dimbleby wrote that Charles resented Prince Philip, who he saw as a domineering figure who belittled him as an infant, sent him to a school where he was bullied by fellow pupils, and then forced him into a loveless marriage.

Charles also complained that Queen Elizabeth II was a remote figure who let his father handle family matters badly, and the way Diana was portrayed in the book was something any responsible father should have kept to themselves.

Despite clear signs from Buckingham Palace that the book had caused hurt to his family, ie Prince Philip very unusually gave an interview about it calling it “that turgid book”, Charles issued a statement saying he had ``no regrets'' about it.

Nothing like on the scale of Harry’s ‘book’. There is just no comparison.

NewAgeNewMe · 08/09/2025 07:51

@Wingroveplatters17 imagine what he’d have thought of Spare then? Probably unprintable! The two books are not remotely the same though I do remember the consternation Charles’ book provoked. Old

Ddakji · 08/09/2025 07:53

ThatAvidViewer · 29/08/2025 16:42

I don’t care, but you can’t escape it. Every time Harry sets foot in the UK (or even nearby), the media dusts off the same old storyline about “olive branches” and the endless “will they, won’t they” game. What they fail to see is that the public doesn’t care — every poll shows people are done with Meghan and Harry.

The truth is, it doesn’t matter whether they reconcile or not. Harry will never be a working royal again, and he simply isn’t relevant to the monarchy anymore. Over time he’ll fade even further into the background, especially once William becomes King and the Wales children step into the spotlight.

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I can escape it. Well, I could until you started a thread on it because this is the first I’ve heard of it.

Lifestooshort71 · 08/09/2025 09:27

I'm not at all interested in a royal reunion but a family one is different. For a father and son to be estranged (particularly when the former is elderly and dealing with cancer) is sad and I hope they can reconcile privately without any leaks from a close source.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/09/2025 10:24

A source said: 'A meeting with Charles is not off the table but the only people who would know about it are Clive Alderton [the King's private secretary] and Charles and Harry

Yet more "sources" Hmm, but while it doubtless fills a few pages I'm not so sure that these three would be the only people in the know, Rhaidimiddcim,

It's hard to imagine Meghan would wave her husband off without endless prior discussions about any potential meeting, and if she's still wants him around she could easily scupper any negotiations which might threaten her own position

Thedom · 08/09/2025 15:10

So,Harry’s,first stop was his grandmothers grave, PR stunt ‘’as ever’’ on the PR tour.

Wingroveplatters17 · 08/09/2025 15:12

Thedom · 08/09/2025 15:10

So,Harry’s,first stop was his grandmothers grave, PR stunt ‘’as ever’’ on the PR tour.

Isn’t it the anniversary of the late Queen’s death today? Or near it?

He’d probably be criticised if he didn’t visit her grave.

PullTheBricksDown · 08/09/2025 15:19

Wingroveplatters17 · 08/09/2025 15:12

Isn’t it the anniversary of the late Queen’s death today? Or near it?

He’d probably be criticised if he didn’t visit her grave.

I had to smile at the news report I heard on this earlier saying Harry had 'privately visited' the late Queen's grave to mark the anniversary. Yes, very private, that's why the mass media is telling me it happened! I'm sure there is no collusion between Harry's people and any members of the press to ensure that 🤔

TemuRoyal · 08/09/2025 15:24

CoffeeCantata · 29/08/2025 16:08

He’s looking more like Prince Edward now - eyes very close together!

Don’t compare him to Edward!

MrsLeonFarrell · 08/09/2025 15:31

PullTheBricksDown · 08/09/2025 15:19

I had to smile at the news report I heard on this earlier saying Harry had 'privately visited' the late Queen's grave to mark the anniversary. Yes, very private, that's why the mass media is telling me it happened! I'm sure there is no collusion between Harry's people and any members of the press to ensure that 🤔

Nothing he does is private and yet it so easily could be.

I prefer the way the Prince and Princess of Wales marked the anniversary.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/09/2025 15:42

PullTheBricksDown · 08/09/2025 15:19

I had to smile at the news report I heard on this earlier saying Harry had 'privately visited' the late Queen's grave to mark the anniversary. Yes, very private, that's why the mass media is telling me it happened! I'm sure there is no collusion between Harry's people and any members of the press to ensure that 🤔

Quite Hmm

Gotta keep that royal link front and centre though, since they're nothing without it

Albondi · 08/09/2025 15:43

Briantheguitargod · 29/08/2025 16:16

school holidays

I really don’t think teenagers are posting on Mumsnet.

NewAgeNewMe · 08/09/2025 16:34

A word of advice Harry, it’s only private if you don’t tell the world about it!

MissFenellaPrism · 08/09/2025 21:03

NewAgeNewMe · 08/09/2025 16:34

A word of advice Harry, it’s only private if you don’t tell the world about it!

He doesn't understand that. He just wants to be in the newspapers.

chunkybear · 08/09/2025 21:42

If Harry is allowed to meet his father then the palace guards will need to de-bug him first 🤡😋, Megain will certainly want to hear the convo, she’ll probably ensure he has an earpiece so she can puppeteer him properly

jamnpancakes · 09/09/2025 01:22

There's not too much coverage in the press about Harry on this visit- bit about the Well Child Awards but much less will he/ won't he.

Thedom · 09/09/2025 05:45

I noticed the same thing, very little coverage, despite the announcement of the visit to the Queens grave with a wreath and Harry manipulating a conversation with a kid about brothers not getting along.

I did read Edward Lane Fox has also quit Invictus, I think Invictus is going to need a whole restructure if it wants to survive.

prelovedusername · 09/09/2025 08:36

Lifestooshort71 · 08/09/2025 09:27

I'm not at all interested in a royal reunion but a family one is different. For a father and son to be estranged (particularly when the former is elderly and dealing with cancer) is sad and I hope they can reconcile privately without any leaks from a close source.

The trouble is, Harry only wants the former, the one with the money and the status and the purpose. If he was remotely interested in genuine reconciliation he’d be a lot more contrite and less inclined to blow up at his father and make demands.

Harry can’t help but use the opportunity to harangue and bully his father and I’m sure Charles is wise to this. Reconciliation with Harry also means allowing Meghan back in and C has made it clear he doesn’t care for her. A and L don’t feature at all, despite Harry’s attempt to use them as bargaining chips. Charles is not going to be interested in building a relationship with two unknown and distant grandchildren at this time in his life and with other pressing demands, including maintaining his own health and well being.

Sadly I can’t see any benefit to anyone but Harry of a reconciliation between them, and I don’t believe it will ever happen.

Hummingbirdtree · 09/09/2025 08:42

It’s not possible for him to build a relationship with two children who live in another country who he never sees. He also has no relationship with their mother. I read somewhere that this summer Charles spent no time with William and his family at Balmoral. He stayed in Birkhall and kept to himself with Camilla. So if he doesn’t see much of William or his other grandchildren, it is even more unlikely he would see Harry’s.

MissFenellaPrism · 09/09/2025 08:43

Hummingbirdtree · 09/09/2025 08:42

It’s not possible for him to build a relationship with two children who live in another country who he never sees. He also has no relationship with their mother. I read somewhere that this summer Charles spent no time with William and his family at Balmoral. He stayed in Birkhall and kept to himself with Camilla. So if he doesn’t see much of William or his other grandchildren, it is even more unlikely he would see Harry’s.

How do you know that he did see William and his family?

Hummingbirdtree · 09/09/2025 08:44

It was in the media in the last few days. Can’t remember where.