Media vs. Reality: The Royal Meeting No One Cares About

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It makes little difference if he meets his father. His role won’t change, and the monarchy or public won’t be affected, yet the media keeps spinning it as if it matters — even though the public doesn’t care.

Prince Harry 'to meet with King Charles' when he returns to UK for anniversary of Queen Elizabeth II's death - as sources say 'reconciliation is within reach' | Daily Mail Online

Harry chose to leave because he was told that half in half out was not possible.

Since then we have had complaints about numbers of sausages, bedroom size, people not regarding Meghan as the saviour of the royals, the institution being out to get him because he isn't treated as an IPP (a status ruled by international law), Daddy not talking to him, after he went to the press immediately after every previous conversation. He has tried faux royal tours and met with some very dubious people, he has criticised the First Amendment, he has received award after award for nothing.

What exactly is William missing out on?

So what better accommodation and conditions should he have had ?
I genuinely don’t know what else the RF could have done for H and M .
The bottom line is that Meghan had a huge problem about Catherine being senior to her and appears to have sown the seeds of discontent in Harry .

What he said in Spare was no more harmful than anything Prince Charles said in his Dimblebore book;

Don't be daft. Charles never wrote a book anyway. Your 'arguments' are staler than last week's sliced white.

His family don’t have to say any words in public about him because they have a lot of influence and many paid and unpaid lackeys to do that for them; eg allies like Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan, tame royal correspondents, obsequious historians holding out for honours, and current or ex staff who are willing to leak stories at strategic moments, who will be given a job or a grace and favour apartment in return.

Yawn at the 5 year old talking points.

Harry and his wife have shown that they're nothing special (and that's being generous) and the royals have managed fine without them. Harry's just not worthy of all that effort.

As for the twerking; I choose to interpret that as the harmless bit of fun and stress reliever it was rather than judge someone for a bit of dancing that mimicked an on-line trend!

They/she put it out there for the public to judge.

Harry has found freedom to point at his crotch in his wife's twerking videos. Why would he want to come back to 'help' his family if they're that ghastly and if he's happy with his wonderful new life?

I don't think Meghan sowed the seeds, they seem to have been there already. Diana trying to raise the boys equally has been shown as unwise bearing in mind the hierarchy they were born into.

Whilst Meghan hasn't helped him, the entitlement, arrogance and the rest of it (my jaw drop moment was when he claimed he had been in service for 35 years) was there already. The men in grey suits masked who Harry is quite magnificently.

The reason I asked this is because so often on here I read that William doesn't do any work as such so it's novel to see a critic claim that hands are needed for Royal tasks.

His son will be 20 in 10 years time and as the heir will already have engaged in royal duties.

The bottom line is that Meghan had a huge problem about Catherine being senior to her and appears to have sown the seeds of discontent in Harry

Sorry but how can you possibly know that for sure? This is pure tabloid! Their tactics are always about setting one family member against another.

Also a pp mentioned below about William and Catherine being “more popular than ever” because of Harry’s departure. I would argue that C&W were always popular because they do their job professionally and rarely put a foot wrong. But it’s very dangerous imho to buy in to all of this media rubbish about building them up as saints as opposed to Harry and Meghan who are sinners. Anyone who has lived a few decades knows how badly that strategy can go wrong.

@Wingroveplatters17
“However much people try to make Harry disappear, he will forever be the King’s son and then the King’s brother.”

Just like Anne and Edward ( I won’t mention the other sibling!) and they seem to manage their lives quite well !
Also they don’t have full time security so why on earth does Harry need it ?

You only have to watch the video of H and M accompanying W and C on the Windsor walk to see Harry having to make sure that Meghan didn’t barge ahead .
All her petty complaints ; Catherine didn’t take her shopping, was reluctant to share lipgloss , was too formal .
It doesn’t take a genius to figure out M was jealous of Catherine.

Essentially they’re paying the press to print about them …. How sad 🤪

Or maybe, Meghan being an ordinary person who has had to make her own way in the world, couldn’t care less about petty rules and who walks in front of whom, because you know, she considered she was with her peers, she didn’t consider herself to be lesser than anyone else, because we are all the same at a fundamental human level whether we hold a fancy title or not?

Possibly a batty theory but no less batty than any other about sister in law rivalry.

The truth is probably somewhere along the lines that they come from completely different worlds and totally misunderstood one another.

Good point, if she hadn't chosen to jump in and become a working Royal.

As a working Royal, she needed to learn the rules and abide by them - she was being paid to play the role - or take it up with the Monarch.

In that case she wouldn't have gone out of her way to put 'HRH the Duchess of Sussex' on her personal gifts, which conveniently found its way onto Instagram, or used royal monograms on her stationery and doormats, or taken HRH for her own children, which all builds up a picture of someone who really likes titles and prestige, as long as it puts them on top of the hierarchy.

Linked, not ranked, unless it's inconvenient.

I find it interesting that Meghan is always careful to refer to members of Harry's family without their titles, but is quick to include her own at every opportunity. For someone who claims to be linked not ranked it seems inconsistent.

I have often defended Meghan here as I feel coverage is quick to blame her for Harry's failings. However I do believe there is evidence that she is keen on hierarchy, but only when she is at the top of it. Hence everything in the US puts her title front and center.

B T W - a new article in the Daily Mail, all breathless about a possible meeting this week.

A source said: 'A meeting with Charles is not off the table but the only people who would know about it are Clive Alderton [the King's private secretary] and Charles and Harry.

'If anything is planned, then he is keeping this extremely close to his chest. It certainly is part of his intention to see his father.

So, a new tactic - claim a meeting will take place, but that no-one will blab about it, so that when no-one blabs about it, that is proof it happened???

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-15074061/Prince-Harry-feeling-excited-visit-uk.html

I have made this point several times . “Harry’s grandmother” “ your brother” and repeated references to Kate even though the POW has made it clear that she prefers Catherine .
But forget her title at your peril !

Exactly. If she wasn't so wedded to being a Duchess the rest would pass without comment. It just reminds me that other members of the family were always careful to say The Queen, rather than Granny.

'It certainly is part of his intention to see his father'

Of course it is.

Sounds like he's manifesting

Or maybe, Meghan being an ordinary person who has had to make her own way in the world, couldn’t care less about petty rules and who walks in front of whom

Yep.

Sheer chance she happened to be caught marching in front of the Invictus vets in such an unfortunate way.

Exactly! She had a pretty clear idea! 😂

@Wingroveplatters17 to pay £12 million to protect the reputation of the second in line to the throne,

Second in line to the throne would be George. What misbehaviour has that naughty boy been up to?

What he said in Spare was no more harmful than anything Prince Charles said in his Dimblebore book; but the way it has been spun in the press you’d think he’d written Mein Kampf or something!

The Prince of Wales, as he then was, did not write a book. He also did not make derogatory comments about disabled matrons, or breach the privacy of teenage grooms. Neither to my knowledge did he describe the private parts of family members.

And let’s face it, if they are willing to pay £12 million to protect the reputation of the second in line to the throne

I don't believe anyone has paid millions to protect George's reputation (or did you mean William, who was second in line at that time?)

Sorry @Tezza1 - hadn't read to the end and missed that you'd made the point!

Andrew is who they are talking about and no-one has confirmed it was ever 12 million no-one has even confirmed she paid it just that he was struggling to sell the chalet and his mother "might" have stumped up the cash as a loan

He has plenty of dodgy mates he could have borrowed off to pay it

I know who they're talking about - but Andrew wasn't second in line

Once upon a time he was and as meghan was alleged to say he was only one plane crash away from the throne (the reaswhy heirs travel separate) many people still refer to him as the spare and he certainly acts like he is still important