Media vs. Reality: The Royal Meeting No One Cares About

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It makes little difference if he meets his father. His role won’t change, and the monarchy or public won’t be affected, yet the media keeps spinning it as if it matters — even though the public doesn’t care.

Prince Harry 'to meet with King Charles' when he returns to UK for anniversary of Queen Elizabeth II's death - as sources say 'reconciliation is within reach' | Daily Mail Online

That isn't how it works, you get the next one in the Line of Succession, regardless. I'm just grateful that Andrew was born later than Charles and that there are plenty of heirs before him.

I’m not suggesting he is going to be monarch! William is going to be short of hands and he hasn’t exactly demonstrated a full-on work ethic to date! He might need Harry at some point in order to keep the whole shebang going!

At the moment, assuming that reports in the press have done degree of accuracy, I cannot see William wanting Harry on board. Harry has attacked his family so personally and has breached their privacy so egregiously I can't see William allowing him anywhere near him. William is very very keen on maintaining his personal privacy as far as is possible and for his own brother to do what he has done, that's almost unforgivable.

In addition, I believe William is serious about slimming down the monarchy and doing things differently. I don't see what Harry can bring to the table that would an advantage rather than a risk.

Who knows what William will bring to
the table? A lot depends on him that’s for sure.

One wonders if a very slimmed down monarchy, in terms of working members as opposed to properties and riches I assume, is compatible with the role nowadays?

It would be a risky strategy imho and I think that boat has already sailed, given the nature of on-line global news, the ever voracious press and a public who seemingly laps up every detail of a princesse’s dress or William’s body language or whatever.

Someone must be buying all of these Hello type magazines and listening to endless podcasts by gruesome royal reporters! They are too extensive to make to publish without an audience or consumer.

It’s a fine line being able to maintain popularity and relevancy, while being less present in public. We’ll see.

I think it is entirely possible for William to slim down in terms of properties. Lots of stuff is held by the crown estate of course but it can be opened to the public and not used by the family.

Well again, there is just no way of knowing yet.

Hell will freeze over before William asks Harry to be a working Royal again after the way Harry has behaved !
My opinion -for what it’s worth -is that W and C are concentrating on their family just now as they know that in the not too distant future they will be King and Queen and all that that entails.
They will have Edward and Sophie plus cousins to put in appearances at Garden Parties etc and their own children are growing up . And let’s not forget Anne !
No need for Harry and even less need for Meghan .

And I agree about the properties @MrsLeonFarrell

Stranger things have happened! QE2 never thought in a million years that she was going to be monarch!

She was 3rd in line at birth and Heir Presumptive at the age of 10.

And Harry will never represent the monarchy again. That ship sailed out of harbour 5 years ago.

But it’s not for the want of trying on Harry’s part, he knows now he is nothing without his royal adjacency, hence his upcoming quasi Royal visit to a round of charities in a country he said he detested. He is so transparent and his desperation is palpable.

William is going to be short of hands for what?

More of this crap in the news again today. How many times has Harry been back in the Uk now and no meeting has ever taken place? ( other than when Charles was first announced as ill) It's old hat. The years are passing. His relevance diminishes every day. Is this all fuelled by Harry to boost his profile? Of course it will make the news. Harry is the ghost prince who turns up to attend whatever event he is still linked with.

Newspapers tend to write about things that people are interested in.

However much people try to make Harry disappear, he will forever be the King’s son and then the King’s brother. That is precisely why there has been a strategic global smear campaign against him and his wife because his leaving was a body blow very close to the Crown. He was good at his job and popular.

All of the news stories and the usual friends and sycophants of the RF commented negatively and endlessly, in a very disproportionate way, about H & M. “Look here” they said, when we should have had our eyes on Andrew!

If Harry wasn’t relevant there wouldn’t have been all of the leaked stories about him in UK, USA, or Australia, conveniently released just days before H and M did a major interview or launched a website.

H and M haven’t always helped themselves but what they have done is nothing compared to Andrew’s misdemeanours, but that’s OK because Andrew and his wife keep the family secrets! How messed up is that?

The RF protect someone who has committed an alleged crime and pay £12 million to make their sordid activities go away; while refusing to meet up with Harry who told the truth about the HIHO issue excuse being completely hypocritical, because they are all at it!

Bingo!

However much people try to make Harry disappear, he will forever be the King’s son and then the King’s brother. That is precisely why there has been a strategic global smear campaign against him and his wife because his leaving was a body blow very close to the Crown. He was good at his job and popular.

Harry was popular because he was protected by the much derided 'grey men' and the other staff who did everything short of putting his socks on in the morning. Now that he's shown the world who he really is, he's become something of a joke.

The departure of him and his wife, how had only been royal for about 5 minutes, had no lasting impact on the monarchy. If anything it's made them more popular. As for "strategic global smear campaign", none of Harry's family has said more than a few word about him in public for the past 5 years. Whereas from he we've had a book, several interviews, a 'documentary' and much more besides.

Harry and his wife have not been missed. They're now free to wiggle their bums for likes on Instagram.

To carry out his duties. Think ahead to ten years time. His children won’t be ready to take on full duties then.

Anne and Edward are getting on in years. Andrew is banished.

They should have handled Harry much better and given him better accommodation and conditions than his allegedly sex abuser uncle!

'They're now free to wiggle their bums for likes on Instagram'.

Was Queen Mary, wife of George V, Harry's great, great grandmother?
I am just having a vision of what she looked like, her straight stance and the clothes of her generation, and then the vision of the twerking.

I suppose we all do things differently from our great, great grandparents.

Better accommodation ? They had Frogmore Cottage which consisted of several properties . The house included Five bedrooms, two orangeries and a yoga studio. Hardly slumming it !
They were offered an apartment in KP but wanted to live in Windsor Castle .
Conditions ? 24/7 security , private jets , staff , unlimited clothes budget , access to wonderful jewellery.

All in all a pretty good deal !

Harry is not popular in the US. He had a chance to start over here and make a new life of his own. He's blown it.

Absolutely! They are all rolling in money!

But if you are born in to it; it’s all relative isn’t it?

So, what 'better accommodation and conditions' did you have in mind @Wingroveplatters17

The public do care OP. They read stories about Harry. This creates revenue for the newspapers.

If everyone stopped reading articles about Harry, then the press would stop reporting on it, because really he isn’t all that important, his stories are just covered because the public are interested. (“Public being interested” not “public interest” reporting!)

I don’t think that’s true. They were all protected by the men in grey suits! Some, like Andrew, protected rather too much!

And yes Harry has shown us who he is, faults and all, which is more you can say about the rest of them!

I think the public responded well to Harry because he behaved in a more spontaneous way than most of the RF and let toddlers jump all over him and steal from his bag of sweetcorn etc. There was something unstuffy about him.

What he said in Spare was no more harmful than anything Prince Charles said in his Dimblebore book; but the way it has been spun in the press you’d think he’d written Mein Kampf or something! Royal commentators and journalists have also found trashing H & M extremely lucrative!

His family don’t have to say any words in public about him because they have a lot of influence and many paid and unpaid lackeys to do that for them; eg allies like Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan, tame royal correspondents, obsequious historians holding out for honours, and current or ex staff who are willing to leak stories at strategic moments, who will be given a job or a grace and favour apartment in return.

And let’s face it, if they are willing to pay £12 million to protect the reputation of the second in line to the throne, and to potentially cover up alleged illegal behaviour, they are probably not going to hold back spending cash in order to discredit someone who challenged the status quo and perhaps asked some uncomfortable questions?

As for the twerking; I choose to interpret that as the harmless bit of fun and stress reliever it was rather than judge someone for a bit of dancing that mimicked an on-line trend!

Harry is not popular anywhere, he is only surpassed in the unlikeability stakes by the horrible Andrew.

Harry publicly exposed himself in all his glory and there is no way to put that genie back in the bottle.

in contrast, William and Catherine are more popular than ever, despite what some would like to believe.

‘If everyone stopped reading articles about Harry, then the press would stop reporting on it, because really he isn’t all that important, his stories are just covered because the public are interested.”

I think you may be overlooking the massive and hugely expensive PR campaign Harry and Meghan pay for, that’s what is keeping them in the press, in the media etc. It’s far less to do with public interest than it is to do with their own media campaigns, to get their names out there, they are still trying to fight the fact they are intensely disliked by a huge proportion of the public, the harder they are trying to present themselves as something they are not, the more they are exposing themselves to ridicule and criticism.

They are both as fake as the dried flowers Meghan is trying to sell.