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The Yorks 2 !

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jeffgoldblum · 05/08/2025 20:49

Sorry missed end of thread !
had a slight hiccup.
anyway thread 2 ready for tomorrows new article. 😁

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BasiliskStare · 09/08/2025 10:42

@CurlewKate @CoffeeCantata and others. I love my Kindle , I am a convert , but one disadvantage I find is that I find it hard to flip backwards and forwards as I would with the physical book. So if anyone has something they want me to look out for - let me know . So eg what evidence does he have for the Susan Barrantes affair etc. That way I can concentrate when I can get to that bit.

I too have high blood pressure so if it gets to the point where my prescription needs to be upped I reserve the right to stop 😂.

NewAgeNewMe · 09/08/2025 10:45

@LidlAmaretto i should have made clear I’m not a royalist. I like the bling and the gossip they bring, but I’d be happy with a perfectly thought out republic. But yes I do want accountability, but power corrupts whatever the institution.

Anyone old enough to remember Robert Lindsay as Citizen Smith? Equality for the people and everyone having numbers? His being Number 1 😂

OlympicWomen · 09/08/2025 10:48

NewAgeNewMe · 09/08/2025 10:45

@LidlAmaretto i should have made clear I’m not a royalist. I like the bling and the gossip they bring, but I’d be happy with a perfectly thought out republic. But yes I do want accountability, but power corrupts whatever the institution.

Anyone old enough to remember Robert Lindsay as Citizen Smith? Equality for the people and everyone having numbers? His being Number 1 😂

I loved that programme: "Freedom for Tooting!".
Perhaps Wolfie Smith was aiming for omnipotence?! 😂😂😂

NewAgeNewMe · 09/08/2025 10:49

It was a great program
may have to see if I can find on YouTube!

OlympicWomen · 09/08/2025 10:49

jamnpancakes · 09/08/2025 10:38

I thought yesterday they must have known about all the gifts Andrew was receiving regarding marriages etc ?

Yes, that would be my suspicion....

vera99 · 09/08/2025 10:54

NewAgeNewMe · 09/08/2025 10:45

@LidlAmaretto i should have made clear I’m not a royalist. I like the bling and the gossip they bring, but I’d be happy with a perfectly thought out republic. But yes I do want accountability, but power corrupts whatever the institution.

Anyone old enough to remember Robert Lindsay as Citizen Smith? Equality for the people and everyone having numbers? His being Number 1 😂

Tooting Popular Front I remember it well. For a time he was one of my favourite actors along with Bernard Hill on Boys from the Black Stuff. Gizz us a job I can do that. He would have made a good rebel King amongst the restless yeoman.

vera99 · 09/08/2025 10:56

BasiliskStare · 09/08/2025 10:42

@CurlewKate @CoffeeCantata and others. I love my Kindle , I am a convert , but one disadvantage I find is that I find it hard to flip backwards and forwards as I would with the physical book. So if anyone has something they want me to look out for - let me know . So eg what evidence does he have for the Susan Barrantes affair etc. That way I can concentrate when I can get to that bit.

I too have high blood pressure so if it gets to the point where my prescription needs to be upped I reserve the right to stop 😂.

I will be ahem obtaining it cometh the hour my pms will be open. I did the same for Spare so Harold didn't make a penny from me some will be please to know.

CathyorClaire · 09/08/2025 11:02

There’s talk that Trump may be going easy on Maxwell to avoid scrutiny if she is subpoenaed

I always thought Maxwell would sing like a flock of canaries to either avoid jail or shorten her sentence but I now think she's been holding back detail to bargain for early release.

She's apparently now in a minimum security facility so if that's her plan it very much appears to be going well.

vera99 · 09/08/2025 11:04

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 10:35

With hindsight (we??) older pps can see that Robert Maxwell and his ilk had red flags all over them but I remember a time when he was the darling of the establishment. His daughter Ghislaine was his favourite child and she seems to have looked for a daddy-substitute in Epstein.

I remember the heartfelt tributes to Maxwell when he died from all kinds of people in mainstream politics, journalism and broadcasting.

Maxwell stole a year of my brothers pension as he worked for one of his companies briefly I'm the 80s. He was most certainly a Mossad spy as he got a hero's burial in the Mount of Olives on his death which is reserved for only the best allies of Israel. Thence it is not a huge stretch to believe that Epstein's honeypot of trafficked women and the resulting kompromat of incriminating material would be very useful in giving Israel covert support when they needed it and I have no doubt that Clinton is probably more culpable than PA.

jeffgoldblum · 09/08/2025 11:06

CathyorClaire · 09/08/2025 11:02

There’s talk that Trump may be going easy on Maxwell to avoid scrutiny if she is subpoenaed

I always thought Maxwell would sing like a flock of canaries to either avoid jail or shorten her sentence but I now think she's been holding back detail to bargain for early release.

She's apparently now in a minimum security facility so if that's her plan it very much appears to be going well.

I have an awful suspicion that should Maxwell even consider singing like a canary, something “accidental” will befall her before any real names or information will surface.

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CathyorClaire · 09/08/2025 11:10

jeffgoldblum · 09/08/2025 11:06

I have an awful suspicion that should Maxwell even consider singing like a canary, something “accidental” will befall her before any real names or information will surface.

She's been inside for three years or so now.

I have wondered if some of the obstacles to singing may have met their maker by now leaving a clearer/safer route to freedom?

Pure speculation ofc 🤔

vera99 · 09/08/2025 11:12

CathyorClaire · 09/08/2025 11:02

There’s talk that Trump may be going easy on Maxwell to avoid scrutiny if she is subpoenaed

I always thought Maxwell would sing like a flock of canaries to either avoid jail or shorten her sentence but I now think she's been holding back detail to bargain for early release.

She's apparently now in a minimum security facility so if that's her plan it very much appears to be going well.

With Trump's effective control of the FBI and judicial system I reckon if the clamour becomes too strident to ignore he can through some lions that aren't him to the lions and avoid sanctioning himself. It's a dangerous path to take though as it has a potential to consume them all if everything the authorities most probably have was to be released. I can also imagine if there were damning evidence of PAs actions that the RF could use Trump's obvious admiration of them to their advantage. BTW when seeing the ex BBC reporter John Sweeney at Wilderness Festival last week he let slip what senior British intelligence contact had told him about the kompromat the Russians had n Trump and it wasn't underage victims or women !

vera99 · 09/08/2025 11:15

CathyorClaire · 09/08/2025 11:10

She's been inside for three years or so now.

I have wondered if some of the obstacles to singing may have met their maker by now leaving a clearer/safer route to freedom?

Pure speculation ofc 🤔

I can never understand why she didn't get a private plane to Israel and live the rest of her life in comfort. She must have a few Bob stashed away and powerful brothers who could have assisted.

CathyorClaire · 09/08/2025 11:21

vera99 · 09/08/2025 11:15

I can never understand why she didn't get a private plane to Israel and live the rest of her life in comfort. She must have a few Bob stashed away and powerful brothers who could have assisted.

Yes.

All so strange.

Wasn't she caught by going for a burger or something rather than staying holed up in her remote lair?

jeffgoldblum · 09/08/2025 11:39

CathyorClaire · 09/08/2025 11:10

She's been inside for three years or so now.

I have wondered if some of the obstacles to singing may have met their maker by now leaving a clearer/safer route to freedom?

Pure speculation ofc 🤔

Could be Cathy !
but moving her to a less secure facility also means it’s easier to “get” at her too!
it’s anyone’s guess as to the shenanigans going on behind the scenes! 😁

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LidlAmaretto · 09/08/2025 12:24

CathyorClaire · 09/08/2025 11:21

Yes.

All so strange.

Wasn't she caught by going for a burger or something rather than staying holed up in her remote lair?

Yes she has a large family and if her father ( as is likely) was a Mossad agent, you'd think she would have been easily able to escape. All I can think of is she was complacent and thought she would never be convicted because of all of the above, but then she was and its too late to escape!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/08/2025 12:30

CathyorClaire · 09/08/2025 11:02

There’s talk that Trump may be going easy on Maxwell to avoid scrutiny if she is subpoenaed

I always thought Maxwell would sing like a flock of canaries to either avoid jail or shorten her sentence but I now think she's been holding back detail to bargain for early release.

She's apparently now in a minimum security facility so if that's her plan it very much appears to be going well.

Frankly I'm just amazed she's still alive, Cathy

I don't imagine we'll ever know the whys and wherefores of all this, far less who's doing what behind the scenes, but there's just so much which doesn't make sense

feellikeanalien · 09/08/2025 12:44

I just find it amazing that despite all the coverage of Epstein the only people who seemed to have suffered any fallout are PA and Ghislaine Maxwell.

There is no doubt that Andrew is a vile individual and deserves all he gets but I do wonder how other high profile names who have been mentioned have managed to get away without anything sticking so far.

I suppose they must be more devious and have more influence. There must be a lot of people who are very glad the focus is on Andrew.

OlympicWomen · 09/08/2025 12:47

Andrew's not clever enough, is he?

jeffgoldblum · 09/08/2025 12:49

feellikeanalien · 09/08/2025 12:44

I just find it amazing that despite all the coverage of Epstein the only people who seemed to have suffered any fallout are PA and Ghislaine Maxwell.

There is no doubt that Andrew is a vile individual and deserves all he gets but I do wonder how other high profile names who have been mentioned have managed to get away without anything sticking so far.

I suppose they must be more devious and have more influence. There must be a lot of people who are very glad the focus is on Andrew.

Because it was devised and engineered this way !
the useful U.K. royal idiot and the vilified U.K. woman .
all the others are safely hiding behind them in the US .

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jumpingthehighjump · 09/08/2025 12:54

I can thoroughly recommend John Sweeney's 'Hunting Ghislaine' podcast. Her father was a monster but idealised his daughter. It's very interesting to hear about her upbringing.

Also worth a look is the website set up by her family and friends. Quite an eye opener, her brother Ian gives numerous interviews on there, you need a strong stomach to listen to him. He disparages VG in the most awful way, and more or less says he's glad she is dead, and has no sympathy with the victims at all (reminds me of Andrew and his interview). He talks like she has done absolutely nothing wrong and of course he acts all innocent about Trump's involvement with JE.
Yes, of course, Andrew is not the only man to have dealings with vulnerable girls through Epstein.
(realghislaine dot com)

Mylovelygreendress · 09/08/2025 13:04

vera99 · 09/08/2025 07:53

Yes, the Mail is going long on the Yorks. I feel sorry for them — they don’t seem to have abandoned Harry, unlike the crueler royals. They now seem like rounded people who just had god-awful parents.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14984341/Princesses-Sordid-revelations-Prince-Andrew-Eugenie-Beatrice-distance-father.html

Are they still close ? Harry tore a strip off Eugenie for lunching with Piers Morgan as confirmed by PM himself .
No further sightings of Eugenie in Montecito and no more mentions of the property in Portugal .

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 13:42

BasiliskStare · 09/08/2025 10:42

@CurlewKate @CoffeeCantata and others. I love my Kindle , I am a convert , but one disadvantage I find is that I find it hard to flip backwards and forwards as I would with the physical book. So if anyone has something they want me to look out for - let me know . So eg what evidence does he have for the Susan Barrantes affair etc. That way I can concentrate when I can get to that bit.

I too have high blood pressure so if it gets to the point where my prescription needs to be upped I reserve the right to stop 😂.

Don’t take unnecessary risks with your health, mental or otherwise!😀

ThePoshUns · 09/08/2025 13:48

jumpingthehighjump · 09/08/2025 12:54

I can thoroughly recommend John Sweeney's 'Hunting Ghislaine' podcast. Her father was a monster but idealised his daughter. It's very interesting to hear about her upbringing.

Also worth a look is the website set up by her family and friends. Quite an eye opener, her brother Ian gives numerous interviews on there, you need a strong stomach to listen to him. He disparages VG in the most awful way, and more or less says he's glad she is dead, and has no sympathy with the victims at all (reminds me of Andrew and his interview). He talks like she has done absolutely nothing wrong and of course he acts all innocent about Trump's involvement with JE.
Yes, of course, Andrew is not the only man to have dealings with vulnerable girls through Epstein.
(realghislaine dot com)

Yes that podcast was so interesting.

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 13:52

Kellywiththelegs · 09/08/2025 01:53

@CurlewKate Well apparently they were big Suit fans so there’s that 🤷🏻‍♀️William has said he likes Coldplay and Linkin Park, Catherine is a big Strictly fan, not sure how much more information you want them to reveal? I’m surprised you are so fascinated with the minutiae of their viewing habits I would have thought a republican would have no interest in such frivolities!

Harry tells us they were big Suits fans and also that W & C were very over-awed to meet megastar Meghan. Harry tells us…

Yeah, right.

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