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jeffgoldblum · 05/08/2025 20:49

Sorry missed end of thread !
had a slight hiccup.
anyway thread 2 ready for tomorrows new article. 😁

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ShamedBySiri · 09/08/2025 13:54

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 10:35

With hindsight (we??) older pps can see that Robert Maxwell and his ilk had red flags all over them but I remember a time when he was the darling of the establishment. His daughter Ghislaine was his favourite child and she seems to have looked for a daddy-substitute in Epstein.

I remember the heartfelt tributes to Maxwell when he died from all kinds of people in mainstream politics, journalism and broadcasting.

I followed all the Private Eye shenanigans and don’t remember many heartfelt tributes. I was amazed when everyone went into shock about the pensions as Private Eye had been on to it long before until Maxwell used the power of the courts to shut them up. Then it wasn’t long after his death that the pension thing came out and the brothers were then prosecuted. He was a horrible bully and a crook and that’s the least to be said about him.

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 14:06

ShamedBySiri · 09/08/2025 13:54

I followed all the Private Eye shenanigans and don’t remember many heartfelt tributes. I was amazed when everyone went into shock about the pensions as Private Eye had been on to it long before until Maxwell used the power of the courts to shut them up. Then it wasn’t long after his death that the pension thing came out and the brothers were then prosecuted. He was a horrible bully and a crook and that’s the least to be said about him.

Anne Robinson (then a print journo and not a dodgy TV quizmistress) who had worked for him at the Mirror was extremely fulsome. Several politicians across the spectrum were very complimentary too until the news of the pension scandal broke a short while later, when of course they all had egg on their faces.

vera99 · 09/08/2025 14:24

ShamedBySiri · 09/08/2025 13:54

I followed all the Private Eye shenanigans and don’t remember many heartfelt tributes. I was amazed when everyone went into shock about the pensions as Private Eye had been on to it long before until Maxwell used the power of the courts to shut them up. Then it wasn’t long after his death that the pension thing came out and the brothers were then prosecuted. He was a horrible bully and a crook and that’s the least to be said about him.

There's an anecdote about during an interview with someone on the roof of the Mirror building he whipped out his todger and pissed onto people walking by far below. He also made a lot of money publishing Ceauscescue's collected works in English. I think he was also a Labour MP at one time. That said monster that he was he had John Pilger and Paul Foot writing for the Mirror way back it was a great paper.

NewAgeNewMe · 09/08/2025 15:19

I’ve said before about Epstein & GM and will say again. All those poor girls and all those disgusting men; and only a British woman behind bars. Why?

vera99 · 09/08/2025 15:34

NewAgeNewMe · 09/08/2025 15:19

I’ve said before about Epstein & GM and will say again. All those poor girls and all those disgusting men; and only a British woman behind bars. Why?

Because perverted entitled men pretty much rule most of the world for whom they can never have enough always want more and as they sate one desire they create an even greater desire for more girls,younger girls and whatever to try and feel something in the depths of their hollow empty souls.

jumpingthehighjump · 09/08/2025 15:50

Yes. This sums it up for me. Trump holding a women's health caucus meeting

Men 30
Women 0

The Yorks 2 !
vera99 · 09/08/2025 16:00

Effectively a convicted rapist accused by multiple women of rape and sexual harassment. A bankrupt numerous times , a convicted felon and liar , a consort of criminals and gangsters and a twice elected President of the most powerful country in world history King of the World.Andrew is our small beer in comparison and I hope Charles knows how to bend the knee for all our sakes.

CurlewKate · 09/08/2025 16:06

NewAgeNewMe · 09/08/2025 15:19

I’ve said before about Epstein & GM and will say again. All those poor girls and all those disgusting men; and only a British woman behind bars. Why?

Why is the fact that she’s British relevant?

JSMill · 09/08/2025 16:23

jumpingthehighjump · 09/08/2025 15:50

Yes. This sums it up for me. Trump holding a women's health caucus meeting

Men 30
Women 0

Omg

OlympicWomen · 09/08/2025 16:34

vera99 · 09/08/2025 16:00

Effectively a convicted rapist accused by multiple women of rape and sexual harassment. A bankrupt numerous times , a convicted felon and liar , a consort of criminals and gangsters and a twice elected President of the most powerful country in world history King of the World.Andrew is our small beer in comparison and I hope Charles knows how to bend the knee for all our sakes.

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The key point here about Trump is twice elected.
It's unbelievable, he's not even hereditary, the US electorate had a choice.

NewAgeNewMe · 09/08/2025 16:45

CurlewKate · 09/08/2025 16:06

Why is the fact that she’s British relevant?

It isn’t really, it’s more to do with a woman behind bars. I just added British More to do with Andrew really as being the most high profile idiot who happens to be British.

Just pisses me off that the only person behind bars is a woman.

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 16:45

OlympicWomen · 09/08/2025 16:34

The key point here about Trump is twice elected.
It's unbelievable, he's not even hereditary, the US electorate had a choice.

And hasn’t he declared a wish to change the law so that he can scandal for a third term? And he’s clearly grooming Barron as his successor. Let’s hope the US electorate come to their senses.

It’s beyond belief that the Democratic Party cannot find anyone to stop him.

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 16:46

Stand….but actually scandal just about sums it up!

OlympicWomen · 09/08/2025 17:01

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 16:45

And hasn’t he declared a wish to change the law so that he can scandal for a third term? And he’s clearly grooming Barron as his successor. Let’s hope the US electorate come to their senses.

It’s beyond belief that the Democratic Party cannot find anyone to stop him.

That's so scary. I'm actually fearful at how powerful Trump is, and how unstoppable he seems.
Senate and Congress just seem to roll over.

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 17:03

NewAgeNewMe · 09/08/2025 16:45

It isn’t really, it’s more to do with a woman behind bars. I just added British More to do with Andrew really as being the most high profile idiot who happens to be British.

Just pisses me off that the only person behind bars is a woman.

I know what you mean, New Age, but like with Rose West, the male perpetrator in the case escaped justice by hanging himself. I assume and hope JE would have received an even longer sentence had he lived.

I suppose it’s analogous to drug sentencing - the dealer/procurer will be treated more harshly under law than the user.

Why an attractive Oxford graduate with the world at her feet decided to become a procuress and an exploiter of her own sex is baffling, but probably due to the screwed-up dynamics of the Maxwell family.

BemusedAmerican · 09/08/2025 17:52

@BasiliskStare I ordered a Kindle copy. I have to commute 3 hours a day so will get through the book quickly. I will enjoy posting on your thread.

My country is a mess. I'm trying to remain optimistic.

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 17:57

BemusedAmerican · 09/08/2025 17:52

@BasiliskStare I ordered a Kindle copy. I have to commute 3 hours a day so will get through the book quickly. I will enjoy posting on your thread.

My country is a mess. I'm trying to remain optimistic.

In you we trust, Bemused!

OlympicWomen · 09/08/2025 18:07

BemusedAmerican · 09/08/2025 17:52

@BasiliskStare I ordered a Kindle copy. I have to commute 3 hours a day so will get through the book quickly. I will enjoy posting on your thread.

My country is a mess. I'm trying to remain optimistic.

Thoughts and prayers, Bemused. 🙏. I always think, surely, there are enough intelligent and decent Americans to stop things going too far.

ThePoshUns · 09/08/2025 18:26

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 17:03

I know what you mean, New Age, but like with Rose West, the male perpetrator in the case escaped justice by hanging himself. I assume and hope JE would have received an even longer sentence had he lived.

I suppose it’s analogous to drug sentencing - the dealer/procurer will be treated more harshly under law than the user.

Why an attractive Oxford graduate with the world at her feet decided to become a procuress and an exploiter of her own sex is baffling, but probably due to the screwed-up dynamics of the Maxwell family.

I think she was hugely in love with Epstein, saw him as a similar figure to her father and was prepared to do anything to keep him, which sadly was to feed his perversions.

CoffeeCantata · 09/08/2025 18:41

ThePoshUns · 09/08/2025 18:26

I think she was hugely in love with Epstein, saw him as a similar figure to her father and was prepared to do anything to keep him, which sadly was to feed his perversions.

I agree. From what I’ve read her devotion to her father was unhealthy and seems to have been mutual. Few men she met would be able to match him in her eyes , or actually to stand up to him - he was a notorious bully to his family.

But she adored Epstein, even when it was obvious he wasn’t going to give her the relationship she craved. He wasn’t a one-woman man, to say the least.

jumpingthehighjump · 09/08/2025 18:56

ThePoshUns · 09/08/2025 18:26

I think she was hugely in love with Epstein, saw him as a similar figure to her father and was prepared to do anything to keep him, which sadly was to feed his perversions.

I totally agree with this.

He paid off her debts and kept her onside to recruit the young vulnerable girls he needed. Revolting isn't it...

BasiliskStare · 09/08/2025 19:56

BemusedAmerican · 09/08/2025 17:52

@BasiliskStare I ordered a Kindle copy. I have to commute 3 hours a day so will get through the book quickly. I will enjoy posting on your thread.

My country is a mess. I'm trying to remain optimistic.

@BemusedAmerican - I will very much appreciate that.

💐

CathyorClaire · 09/08/2025 20:17

jeffgoldblum · 09/08/2025 11:39

Could be Cathy !
but moving her to a less secure facility also means it’s easier to “get” at her too!
it’s anyone’s guess as to the shenanigans going on behind the scenes! 😁

Hmmm.

Interestingly AI suggests minimum security prisons aim to prepare inmates for reintegration into society.

I don't think she'll serve anywhere near the original sentence and I don't think she'll implicate more than dead (reputationally or literally - Jean-Luc Brunel/Jes Staley f'rinstance) minnows to do it.

Interesting to see if she finally squeals on A.

vera99 · 09/08/2025 22:53

CathyorClaire · 09/08/2025 20:17

Hmmm.

Interestingly AI suggests minimum security prisons aim to prepare inmates for reintegration into society.

I don't think she'll serve anywhere near the original sentence and I don't think she'll implicate more than dead (reputationally or literally - Jean-Luc Brunel/Jes Staley f'rinstance) minnows to do it.

Interesting to see if she finally squeals on A.

When it comes to Maxwell, Andrew has nothing to offer her, whereas Trump holds the power to ease her pain if he chooses. But using Epstein’s files to take down your enemies while trying to protect yourself and others is a high-risk strategy like playing with fire in a tinder-dry forest, never knowing which way the wind will blow next. Trump just wants it all to stop, but he weaponized the idea of elite pedophile rings with his MAGA base, many of whom still demand blood from that circle. Andrew has no real power, unlike many others on the “list,” making him the easiest fall guy if they decide to go that route.

TheAutumnCrow · 10/08/2025 00:49

I’ve always been disquieted about what the Queen did (and thus knew) about Andrew, during threads on here about the Great Pay Off.

Turns out that was prescient and it looks like she knew the whole bloody lot of it, about all of them.

I presume that people will just tire of not being able to trust any of them. The monarchy as it is will end on a whimper and a fading braying sound.

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