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The yorks , new book by Andrew Lownie !

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jeffgoldblum · 02/08/2025 12:39

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apparently the author will be serialising his new book in the dm weekly!
thought we might like to follow the snippets 😁

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jumpingthehighjump · 03/08/2025 09:36

I knew he had a relationship with Maxwell at one point and I think it moved into friendship territory after a while.

I was always shocked how easily her and Epstein inveigled their way into Sandringham, Buck House, Balmoral, parties thrown for birthdays of various Royals... Andrew gave them free rein to enter into the very bosom of the royal family.

Sorry, but I don’t understand how the late QE2 could not know!
She did. She just caved in to him.

What is scary about all this is it shows that the RF really are untouchable and not accountable to anyone. The Queen is always held up as such a standard bearer but she let this odious man behave in a shockingly irresponsible and disgraceful way and never did anything about it. So was she really such a great Queen? She just looked the other way.

Abso-fucking-lutely!

He compromised the Monarchy and the country yet no one appeared to be able to do anything about it. How worrying is that?
I think QE2 was blind as far as her favourite son. Apparently he was the only one to bow, and kiss her hand every time he entered a room where Mummy was. I bet he did. Keep darling Mama on side so I can carry on with my sordid and disgusting behaviour.

He has forever been involved in shady deals, and now the sex side of it is coming more to light, everyone knew it. It's been talked about for decades.

Mylovelygreendress · 03/08/2025 09:37

CoffeeCantata · 03/08/2025 09:34

@Greenwingsix87

Harry has denied he punched Andrew.

And we all know how truthful Harry is ……

CoffeeCantata · 03/08/2025 09:39

CurlewKate · 03/08/2025 09:21

Oh, I see what you mean. There is quite a history of Royal men being sexually…incontinent…though. Including (ducks) Prince Philip. So, if that’s true he had a pretty shit example to follow. And with both his parents condoning and supporting his behaviour you can see how he was so sure of himself. Charles was going to be King, so had to at least try to conduct himself discreetly. Edward was, it seems not really worthy of consideration. So Andrew had the “roistering, rogering” role. All very Blackadder.

Sexually active, sexually incontinent…but Andrew sounds a bit deviant to me!

His crude scatological obsession, for example. There’s a difference between being a Lothario what would have been called a Lady’s Man, in which you use smarm and schmatlz to seduce’the ladeez’ and immediately boasting about super-stinky farting in the bath!🤮😲😖

All this is more than just being a cynical charmer…it’s truly disgusting and deviant.

CoffeeCantata · 03/08/2025 09:39

Mylovelygreendress · 03/08/2025 09:36

And yet Harry did not utter a bad word about Andrew in Spare! He had plenty of snide comments about others ( especially Catherine) so surely that was his chance to let rip ?

That is SO weird.

jumpingthehighjump · 03/08/2025 09:41

I wonder what the likes of Anne, Edward and of course Charles are thinking today.

Andrew is, after all, the gift that keeps on giving as far as sleaze. The three siblings must've known what he was like too, I wonder if they ever tried to get their Mother to act.

jeffgoldblum · 03/08/2025 09:42

CoffeeCantata · 03/08/2025 09:39

Sexually active, sexually incontinent…but Andrew sounds a bit deviant to me!

His crude scatological obsession, for example. There’s a difference between being a Lothario what would have been called a Lady’s Man, in which you use smarm and schmatlz to seduce’the ladeez’ and immediately boasting about super-stinky farting in the bath!🤮😲😖

All this is more than just being a cynical charmer…it’s truly disgusting and deviant.

To me it sounds like childish locker room humour that for reasons unknown he never grew out of!!!
I can only imagine the talk and behaviour when a group of like minded people congregate!

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NewAgeNewMe · 03/08/2025 09:42

OccasionalHope · 03/08/2025 09:19

Actually, the new revelations make it more plausible to me that he didn’t specifically remember VG. Why would he remember one among so many?

Oh god this hadn’t actually even occurred to me.

If what Lownie says is true about the amount of women, then why would he particularly remember VG. All those poor girls and women.

CoffeeCantata · 03/08/2025 09:42

OccasionalHope · 03/08/2025 09:19

Actually, the new revelations make it more plausible to me that he didn’t specifically remember VG. Why would he remember one among so many?

Fair point! They were just so many - and none of them were really humans to Andrew.

FenellaFeldman · 03/08/2025 09:43

jeffgoldblum · 03/08/2025 09:42

To me it sounds like childish locker room humour that for reasons unknown he never grew out of!!!
I can only imagine the talk and behaviour when a group of like minded people congregate!

Yes, immature privileged white bloke talk, isn't it?!

FenellaFeldman · 03/08/2025 09:44

NewAgeNewMe · 03/08/2025 09:42

Oh god this hadn’t actually even occurred to me.

If what Lownie says is true about the amount of women, then why would he particularly remember VG. All those poor girls and women.

Very true. Poor VG. Just another nameless exploited girl.

NewAgeNewMe · 03/08/2025 09:45

jumpingthehighjump · 03/08/2025 09:41

I wonder what the likes of Anne, Edward and of course Charles are thinking today.

Andrew is, after all, the gift that keeps on giving as far as sleaze. The three siblings must've known what he was like too, I wonder if they ever tried to get their Mother to act.

If it’s like my family member they probably were blocked by his mother.

We certainly were, wasnt on a par with Andrew, but even with evidence in front of her, she never ever believed of her golden boy. Had it been one of her other dcs she wouldn’t have been so blinded.

CoffeeCantata · 03/08/2025 09:46

jeffgoldblum · 03/08/2025 09:42

To me it sounds like childish locker room humour that for reasons unknown he never grew out of!!!
I can only imagine the talk and behaviour when a group of like minded people congregate!

Indeed. But if you remember Trump’s locker room revelations - horrible enough - but I can’t even imagine Trump using disgusting farts as his opening gambit when meeting a woman! I can’t get my mind round why he thought this would work with anyone…yet clearly it did!

FenellaFeldman · 03/08/2025 09:46

CoffeeCantata · 03/08/2025 09:39

That is SO weird.

Yes, that's what is so difficult to work out. Harry wanted to trash the RF and make money. Surely Andrew was a better bet than his SIL for not sharing lip balm, and other half baked accusations and proven lies?
The reasons will come out.

jeffgoldblum · 03/08/2025 09:50

NewAgeNewMe · 03/08/2025 09:45

If it’s like my family member they probably were blocked by his mother.

We certainly were, wasnt on a par with Andrew, but even with evidence in front of her, she never ever believed of her golden boy. Had it been one of her other dcs she wouldn’t have been so blinded.

I imagine that they probably tried to delicately talk to their mother!
but as an old lady from a generation before I doubt she could really believe what was said!
I also imagine Andrew using her love as a weapon and telling her that it was just a couple of girlfriends nothing to see here!

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FenellaFeldman · 03/08/2025 09:53

jeffgoldblum · 03/08/2025 09:50

I imagine that they probably tried to delicately talk to their mother!
but as an old lady from a generation before I doubt she could really believe what was said!
I also imagine Andrew using her love as a weapon and telling her that it was just a couple of girlfriends nothing to see here!

I think those are good points. One "insider" wrote that KC was very concerned about the access Andy and Fergie had to the late Queen, and how they were trying to manipulate her as her health was failing. I think A&F are a pair of shysters and certainly wanted a cast iron lease on Royal Lodge, among other things.

jeffgoldblum · 03/08/2025 09:56

CoffeeCantata · 03/08/2025 09:46

Indeed. But if you remember Trump’s locker room revelations - horrible enough - but I can’t even imagine Trump using disgusting farts as his opening gambit when meeting a woman! I can’t get my mind round why he thought this would work with anyone…yet clearly it did!

I’m going to say something that might get me jumped on , and could be seen as classest! , as normally I don’t say these things forgive me!

im not shocked about it @CoffeeCantata, this humour is typical of the stereotype of the braying upperclass male who went to an all boys public school!
I’ve heard it , I’ve seen it ! , normally when they reach andrews age they grow out of it! ( or reign it in!) , times have indeed changed but apparently for Andrew he has stayed emotionally in a time when he was the centre of these circles, everyone else has moved on , he apparently hasn’t!

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diddl · 03/08/2025 09:57

but as an old lady from a generation before I doubt she could really believe what was said!

I think her own insular upbringing wouldn't have helped.

My dad was only 4yrs younger than TLQ & I'm 4yrs younger than the revolting one.

But their attitudes & way of life seem to be from bygone years!

IAmATorturedPoet · 03/08/2025 09:58

FenellaFeldman · 03/08/2025 09:53

I think those are good points. One "insider" wrote that KC was very concerned about the access Andy and Fergie had to the late Queen, and how they were trying to manipulate her as her health was failing. I think A&F are a pair of shysters and certainly wanted a cast iron lease on Royal Lodge, among other things.

Sounds very much like PA & SF were ‘making sure she had the right people around her’ (ie still had her ear).

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 03/08/2025 10:00

To be fair, what we might have seen in public is the result of Andrew being reined in, the reality of how bad he could have been has been spared because efforts were put in place to at least limit his shit behaviour to private. I do remember there being grumblings after Diana died that Harry would have so much money available to him via the trust fund from his mother. There was an article in one of the broadsheets that effectively said this was a potential future problem for Charles / William as “spares” have always been controlled via money, that this wouldn’t work for someone who had such a large amount of their own. It was referenced that money had been used to control Andrew and Margaret.

FenellaFeldman · 03/08/2025 10:02

IAmATorturedPoet · 03/08/2025 09:58

Sounds very much like PA & SF were ‘making sure she had the right people around her’ (ie still had her ear).

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Indeed.

Thedom · 03/08/2025 10:09

This is an old and interesting article from 15 years ago, confirms what the book says about his Trade envoy role, Andrew trying to get classified information from the Serious Fraud office about a corruption scandal between the Saudis and BAE systems. He had no business whatsoever being involved.

Even this was not enough to precipitate him being fired as a Trade Envoy.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/nov/30/prince-andrew-wikileaks-cables

However, it is shocking to read that Tony Blair eventually shut down the investigation.

I do wonder if all those women he sexually harassed, could now sue him. Hopefully they do.

WikiLeaks cables: Prince Andrew demanded special BAE briefing

SFO sources confirmed that BAE case handlers at the time thought the request from the Duke of York was 'well out of order'

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/nov/30/prince-andrew-wikileaks-cables

Mylovelygreendress · 03/08/2025 10:14

Wonder if A will issue a denial or sue Lonie ?
I suspect not.

jeffgoldblum · 03/08/2025 10:18

Mylovelygreendress · 03/08/2025 10:14

Wonder if A will issue a denial or sue Lonie ?
I suspect not.

No point his reputation is already tanked! And I doubt he could afford it , his mum is dead Charles certainly won’t pay for it!

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FenellaFeldman · 03/08/2025 10:23

Mylovelygreendress · 03/08/2025 10:14

Wonder if A will issue a denial or sue Lonie ?
I suspect not.

Nope. It is the end for him 🤞

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 03/08/2025 10:40

The book is called “The Yorks” but the extract so far is just about Andrew. Obviously he’s the big name, but would I be right in expecting revelations about Sarah as well? Really hope there’s no dirt on the girls. (But to be fair, growing up in that house can’t have been the most emotionally healthy).

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