Talks for reconciliation

[LadyJaneGrey18]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14899657/King-Charles-Prince-Harry-aides-meet-London-secret-peace-summit.html

What to make of this??

Can anyone see a way that H and KC3 could rebuild their father/son relationship while still leaving H as a royal outcast? Is it that KC3 just wants to reconcile with his son and, as others have said, put a new norm in place to smooth the way for W's accession? Or am I just being a softy!

They could easily do this, there's no need for Harry to come back to the UK as a working royal, half in half out or whatever.
They just need to have a private conversation over the phone (although it's questionable whether it would stay private) , no fanfare, no press release , no blabbing, keep in touch every so often, like millions of families who live in different countries do.

Apparently I read somewhere that TP made a dig at the BET awards about people not paying their bills and it was interpreted as a dig at H and M.

Making him godparent, and his accepting, also seemed really strange

After that article, if it’s accurate, them making Tyler Perry (who I know nothing about) a godparent to one of the children doesn’t seem so strange at all now.

100% agree

I think you are a right softie!😄

It would be nice, I agree, for KC’s sake, but how would you regulate it to stop H blabbing, or to stop Meghan muscling in and monetising it in some way?

Also, I think in practice the security services might have an opinion on this.

They could meet on the Balmoral estate, just the two of them with Camilla, but she would be a sticking point for Harry, no doubt. If I were KCIII, I wouldn't meet H alone.

They could meet with someone else as a witness , perhaps three times a year for a couple of hours at High grove. No phones or recording equipment allowed. If there are any mentions in the press of to ‘friends’ of what the meetings involve they would be ended.

Well the RF are essentially living off other people the whole time . They haven’t earned anything they have. It’s all rich friends and aristos doing them favours. Their money is the result of pillaging and rape originally anyway.

I simply don’t understand why H and M can’t use the trust funds to pay off their mortgage and TP.

She reminds me of Becky Sharp in so many ways

If they do owe TP money I think it's pretty shoddy of them not to have paid it back under whatever terms agreed. Whether he's a saint or no , he was very generous to them during the Freedom Flight era. H may think it's an honour for people to lend him money & M might think she'll charm him or they might think well it's only $7m out of $1.4bn so why would he be so fussed. But , I reckon no matter how philanthropic a billionaire is , I bet you don't get to be one letting people take the piss out of you financially.

If they don't owe him this money & it's gossip only , given they are so friendly with him, you'd think they'd feel they could ask him to deny the story. A quick google shows it's been around for a few days now. Getting a reputation for not paying your bills/debts is not a good thing. For anyone.

Edit not actually needed 😊

Well , they are grifters.

Sounds like a plan 😁

They could meet with someone else as a witness , perhaps three times a year for a couple of hours at High grove. No phones or recording equipment allowed

Sounds like a nice little side hustle for an off duty prison officer.

And re TP - surely if it’s not true one of the parties would have said by now.

You are @Weepixie & I demand my laughing emoji back. 😂

I agree that there would have to be a lawyer or senior courtier present. I don’t think Camilla would wish to be present after what H has said about her, and in fact I think KC insisting on her being there was one of the reasons H didn’t want to meet him when his illness was first diagnosed.

The pictures were taken from the pathway that runs down the eastern end of Green Park in London. The balcony of the Royal Over-Seas League where they met is at the rear of the building, overlooking the private rear garden with an archway gate that leads to Green Park. The photos below show the garden and balcony from inside the fence, and then the view on google maps of the Green Park pathway, the gate into the garden and and the view of the balcony. Bear in mind it’s high summer currently and there will be a lot of foliage.

It’s a fair way from the rear gate, or peering over the fence/bushes to get from Green Park to the balcony - if you look at the photo in the Mail of the meeting you can see the photographer must have used a telephoto lens to get such a clear photo from several metres away. You’d also presumably need to know they would be there. And the photographer also took photos of them walking into the Royal Over-Seas League. You have to walk around the whole block to get from the front of the building to the back.

The meeting was held in a location tucked out of the way. It was papped by a US based photographer who must have gone there specifically to do that. There were 3 parties represented - Meghan, Harry and the King. The King's representative looks shocked and annoyed when he realises they are being photographed. Of the other 2, one is not showing surprise and the other has her back to the camera.

Now, who do we think suggested that the meeting be outside where itcpuld be papped, and who set up the pap? Apparently someone who wanted it leaked and didn't care that the leak would inevitably cause upset, or who positively wanted to compromise whatever discussions were being held.

Sorry, but the King's rep was completely naive to go onto that balcony. Either that, or it was a test (that H&M failed).

Private visits to the UK in one of the many secure homes the RF own is easily arranged.

The problem will be trust that H&M won’t monetise that connection or anything they experience or observe.

The worry will be after a week at Balmoral you’ve just provided chapters 1-5 for Spare 2 on KC’s health, how many sausages were served per guest, who got the best bedrooms, how people were guarded with H&M and so on…

H just hasn’t grasped how damaging his revelations have been because he can’t prove he’s “now” trustworthy without his family taking the risk that he’s telling the truth he can be trusted (given his truth is a very nebulous concept).

It’s not even that there was a one off situation. He’s spent 5 years having a public feud with his family - so the question they are bound to ask is what has changed?

If the answer is money (or lack off) then I’d say they will be even more wary if contact for risk of being used as content fodder.

Yes, much like Uncle Andy and Sunninghill…bought off them more more than the asking price by a wealthy friend and abandoned and demolished….the the ski chalet for which I believe the previous owner had to go to court over defaulted payments worth millions.

Also wasn’t the Queen Mother reputedly in debt to a number of companies when she died with HMQ paying off a massive amount (reportedly in the many millions).

I think they will reconcile, I think KC will encourage PW and PH to reconcile. I even think that PH will eventually undertake royal duties again. So, I am an even bigger softie but I feel this will happen. It will take a long time but they will slowly work on public opinion, the RF do have excellent PR.

As for MM and the children, I don't know. But Californian life is not working out financially for them.

If they don't owe him this money & it's gossip only , given they are so friendly with him, you'd think they'd feel they could ask him to deny the story. A quick google shows it's been around for a few days now

Good point, they've not been backwards in asking others to set the record straight before.

You are an optimist! The institution will not let H back because he is a threat. In the end, the monarchy trumps the family - see Edward VIII.

KC can encourage William however there is no obligation on W to oblige and after the way H and M have behaved especially towards Catherine , I honestly cannot imagine W doing anything other than a nod of acknowledgment.
This is more than he deserves..