H&M Fathers Day video

[Bickybics]

So they are showing faces now, how long until they are including them in everything, showing them fully.
I feel like this is a bit desperate now. It was their last card to play, the children. They’re trying anything now for attention, what do they have left, showing private videos of them after all the criticism about the Wales children being on display.
One thing about them is they always surprise me.

As long as they don't expect people to bow and curtsey to them, as their parents did.

I've always thought that making so clear their dissatisfaction with their seats in Jamaica and the at the Queen's Jubliee service was ill-judged. It would have been much more dignified just to sit where told with a gracious smile on their faces and have a moan afterwards on the way home.

Making all the fuss (Harry at the Bob Marley event being sent by Meghan to beg for better seats, and them both causing kerfuffle in the Abbey at the Jubilee) just drew attention to their 'demotion' as royals and made them both look entitled and pathetic.

They really thought they could have it both ways! Rubbish Harry's relations to the world and then come back for the privileges as if nothing had happened.

Can’t be a ‘working royal’ then can they. They also shouldn’t have titles if they don’t want to follow the system.

I actually bought a couple of Malcolm Saville books from eBay, and have never been game to read them for fear of having my memories shattered. I'm finding more and more things a bit "You can't go home", and I'm not that person anymore, etc, etc. Still, he lead me to Ludlow, Rye and even Palma (the Marston Baines books -remembered that character after too many decades).

Yes to the twins. They were irritating but I always got the idea that was the characters' stock in trade to lull the baddies into a false sense of security (or to get the baddie to commit violence against them and be arrested that way).

The Abbey books! I devoured them as a girl, but even then thought they were weird. That's probably why I liked them. So many irritating characters, and I was always surprised that they didn't have someone strewing roses in the path of the Marvellous Rosamund. Everyone seemed to have multiple nursemaids and the main aim seemed to be to have a nursery staffed solely by May Queens.

Can’t be a ‘working royal’ then can they

Given there's no such thing as a 'working' royal, Harold is fascinatingly both extensively steeped in the 'system' and deluded.

H&M were quite happy to have people bow to them when they were working royals. After leaving the royal family they were still keen on people bowing to them with M even teaching students to curtsey to her on their grifters getaway to Colombia.

If Margaret, spouse and children could bow/curtsey to QE2, and if Anne, Andrew and Edward plus spouses and children can bow/curtsey to KC3, then why should H, who per his own words in the Bradby interview is pro-monarchy, have any problem with either he, his spouse or his children bowing/curtseying to future KW5 when the times comes?

Your last paragraph is the one thing I still can’t get my head round. How could he think he can rubbish his family publicly then walk back in as if nothing had happened. The depth of gall and lack of shame/cringe is extraordinary.

Because he thinks it is his birthright. He is entitled to it regardless of his behaviour simply because of who he is.

I have all Malcolm Saville books from the main series (Lone Pine, Buckingham, Jillies etc) and many of his individual ones too.

I wrote a play (with permission) of "Mystery at Witchend" for our local youth theatre, which was fun.

I know that road, from the time I decided MS country was a good place to visit and persuaded my parents that was a really good midway point to meet on holiday.
Luckily my dad was driving, and he's a very calm driver. I had my eyes closed half the time and still occasionally have nightmares about it!

Single track, but two way traffic, no passing spaces to talk off, and a cliff upwards on one side and steep slope on the other.

Loved the Lone Pine books ...

Even if he thinks that, it’s mad to me that he has no inner voice telling him he’s backstabbed his family publicly so it could be embarrassing seeing them again. Most people would feel at least a bit discombobulated at the idea of mingling with them again knowing what you’ve done. I guess that’s what the word Brazen was invented for.

I think the two of them bolster each other up and convince each other of their own victimhood. He hears no voice but hers and listens to no other opinion. He has lost all sense of perspective.

She seems happy. Of course I don’t know what she’s like behind closed doors but she seems happier than Harry.

William has moved on, I cannot see them ever having a brotherly relationship again. Right now the people William will be close to are the ones he could rely upon over the two cancer diagnosis. Harry was absent at a pivotal life moment for William. I do think Harry will always have an escape route into the family should things go wrong but with little status. The royal family should learn as I do think those who marry in do need to be able to secure some wealth should the marriage end. For all meghans done she's in a much better position than her equivalent of Sarah Ferguson should her marriage end.

From what I've seen on SM it seems the new script for the SS is that Catherine was booed at TTC and that's why she cancelled Ascot.

Their evidence? The Republic protesters 🙄

Why would the Republic protestors be booing Catherine? And at the point I thought I heard them shouting their protests, she wasn't even there!

Puts me in mind of seats 7 and 8 in Row H at the Bob Marley premiere.

Compared to (for example) the K & Q's recent visit to Canada, which was a perfect demonstration, firstly of what the monarchy is for, and secondly, how to run a royal visit, the two of them just look tawdry.

I'm finding more and more things a bit "You can't go home", and I'm not that person anymore, etc, etc.

I still enjoy re-reading a lot of my childhood favourites, just not Malcolm Saville, for some reason. Which is a shame, because I did love them at the time, and there are a lot of them to re-read.

The Abbey books! I devoured them as a girl, but even then thought they were weird. That's probably why I liked them. So many irritating characters

I didn't come to them until I was an adult - I don't think my local library had them, because I couldn't have missed so many books by one author. It's Joy who annoys me. (And her ghastly spoiled twins.) A grown woman who behaves appallingly, and everyone says 'It's just Joy, and we love her anyway.'

@HonoriaBulstrode I didn't come to them until I was an adult - I don't think my local library had them, because I couldn't have missed so many books by one author.
For some reason, my local library didn't have them but my local Vinnies used to always have them for 20 cents. They also had a bizarre number of British girls' annuals from the 1920s which were interesting oddities. The girls were called things like Maeve which I'd never heard and wore gym slips. I thought that was some type of petticoat and I wondered why that would be their main garment during the day. Suddenly I realised that it was just the tunic, tie and blouse I wore to school. The local library ran to things like Antonia Forrest who I loved, and then they got a bit priggish and began to delete things like Enid Blyton from their collection.

I worry about spoiling authors I once loved. I used to be able to read and reread books, but now I worry about finding favourites like Kingsley Amis and Keith Waterhouse not up to my memory. I recently tried with a favourite David Lodge book and was so disappointed. And on an easygoing level, I loved Desmond Bagley (mainly I think because of his excellent use of settings) but found that Nope, not up for a reread.

@MargaretThursday Yes, it's a stunning part of the country. I love Ludlow especially. My dog nearly ended up being named after it (he was ultimately called Nicky after Dubrovnik - which I initially visited solely because I was gobsmacked when I saw it in Peter Stuyvesant ciggie ad at the cinema when I was about 12. Obviously I have no imagination). My mum gave me a three night stay at The Feathers for a Christmas present. There are so many lovely towns nearby. Little Moreton Hall, which is in Cheshire not Shropshire, I suppose, used to be used on the British Tourist Office posters for Australia, and prob other places.

However, you could offer me free first class airfare on Qantas and accomodation on the condition I would drive over Long Mynd again, and it would be thanks, but no thanks,

You can get a lot of Norah Lofts in ebooks from Amazon. Most are free to read with a Kindle Unlimited subscription or vary between au$5.99 to $12.99 to buy (so I suppose 3 pounds to 6 pounds). Still, that's only any use if you like ebooks - sorry, pointing out the bleeding obvious.

That is hilarious.

Had the Not My King lot purchased a truck load of tickets for Ascot??

Yes, because as usual, they'll be ill informed. People on one thread claimed that the Trooping of the Colour was a royal event and about KC, and now people on another thread are saying the same about Ascot.
Baffling.

More importantly, are they following the dress code 🤔😆😆

They’ll be taught to fawn over the Hollywood power players like Oprah and (perhaps) Tyler Perry though, I am sure…

They live in their very own echo chamber.