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Harry says his kids mental health was affected by Sun story linking him to P Diddy.

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AtIusvue · 16/05/2025 18:50

Just what planet is he on? Why on earth would his kids mental health be affected by this?

The kids clearly know nothing about the story or who P Diddy is. If he is saying that his bad mental health has then affected his children….then he needs to stop reading stories about himself! Ffs, what a twat.

Harry claimed that the article and others published by the Sun and the Sun on Sunday had “a hugely negative impact on his mental health and that of his wife and children”.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/may/16/prince-harry-accused-the-sun-of-printing-story-linking-him-to-p-diddy-out-of-revenge

Prince Harry accused the Sun of printing story linking him to P Diddy out of revenge

Exclusive: court documents reveal Harry claimed front page story and other articles had ‘hugely negative impact on his mental health and that of his wife and children’

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/may/16/prince-harry-accused-the-sun-of-printing-story-linking-him-to-p-diddy-out-of-revenge

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SipandClean · 16/05/2025 23:38

I’d be more worried about their daughter’s changing appearance. She looks about 6 in the latest instagram picture that Megan posted - with brown hair. The one before that she had bright ginger hair.

IdaGlossop · 16/05/2025 23:42

From the Montecito kitchen 24-hour livestream

8.30am, Tuesday 17 March 2024

The responsibly sourced and humanely felled pine of the table creaks under the weight of waffles, crêpes, hoppers-full of beyond-sell-by-date rabbit food flower sprinkles and the world's biggest LGBTQ+ fruit platter. Over the range hangs the stuffed head of deceased beagle Guy.

ENTER Archie and Lili in striped pyjamas. Meghan is on the kitchen island in warrior pose, dressed in beige.

Archie: Lili, Lili, look! Papa's on the front page of our soaraway Sun. Here's your copy. Maybe there's a story inside about papa going to a party with a sex trafficking rapper that will trigger our intergenerational trauma.

Meghan: On 17 March 2036 you will both say 'She loved us so much she got up at 6.30am every morning except Sundays to iron our individual copies of The Sun so we would be in touch with our British ginger roots and the Royal heritage into which we were born.'

Lily, nibbling a kumquat reluctantly: Mommy, why is the very, very white lady on page 3 of my newspaper showing her booby-woobies?

Meghan: Racism. The British media see everything through a post-imperial, misogynist lens. But H and I are in our taxidermy era. No more questions, girl child, while I am in warrior pose.

Lily: Whatever makes you happy, mommy.

Archie, with a crêpe on his head: Mommy, why is my hair blonde?

Meghan: Because you are born of a proud and noble line of ginger princes. And because you are wearing a crêpe on your head. Open the ginger wig drawer, choose a ginger wig and put it on now. Then go outside to Archie's chick inn and collect today's eggs, stand outside the window and juggle them. Make sure you don't break any! No more questions, boy child, while I am in warrior pose.

Archie: Whatever makes you happy, mommy.

Enter Harry, wearing a beanie on his head and an empty Elizabeth Arden Eight Hour Cream pot on his todger.

Harry: My love. The window is splattered with raw egg and the boy child has a crêpe under his ginger wig. He must be hot in this Montecito morning sunshine. Did anyone ask if he's OK?

Meghan: No. No more questions, man child, while I am in warrior pose.

Lili: Papa, I think it's time for me and Archie to be locked in our elevated turret while Nanny Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie calls the casting agency and asks for the next children in the line of succession to be sent to Montecito.

Harry: My love, why don't you go take a bath? You need some Me time. I, your one true ginger prince, will come and rub you in the tub, once I have carried the boy child and the girl child to the elevated turret and given my orders to Nanny Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie.

Meghan her face expressionless: I said no more questions while I'm in warrior pose.

Lili: Bathroom number 7 out of 16 is vacant.

Meghan her face expressionless: Don't try and get round me by making a statement rather than asking a question, girl child. You're old enough to know the difference.

Archie leaning into the kitchen from the kitchen window: Papa would you mind awfully passing me a fork and knauf so I can eat the sun-dried scrambled eggs I just made before mommy sees them?

Meghan, changing posture to downward dog: I will not have that man's name uttered in this house. H, remove the boy child and his scrambled eggs from my sight. I work soo hard, preparing breakfast, doing the school run, planning beige outfits, creating social media content, answering emails, arranging flowers, walking the dogs.

Harry, his right hand on the empty Elizabeth Arden Eight Hour Cream pot: Why is my photo on the front of today's Sun? Just look at it and feel traumatised with me, all of you. Let's see. Story on page 5. OK. Listen up. Headline. Harry named in P Diddy sex trafficking case. Then it says: 'Prince Harry, fifth in line to the throne, is mentioned in court papers connected with the case of rapper P Diddy. The ginger prince's name appears in lists of high profile people who attended parties hosted by P Diddy and who his detractors say were cover for his predatory behaviour. The rapper is on trial for alleged sexual misconduct. There is no suggestion that Prince Harry was involved with any of the alleged incidents.' This is an establishment conspiracy. My father could have intervened and put a stop to this. My family needs 24 hour security. I was born a ginger prince and I will always be a ginger prince. There are people in the institution who wish me and my family harm. P Diddy is why we had to leave Britain. Mental health check, guys. How are you feeling now?

Archie: Papa reading that article has had a significant impact on my mental health.

Lili: Papa reading that article has had a significant impact on my mental health.

Meghan: That man loves me sooo much.

Scorchio84 · 17/05/2025 01:04

Harry brings me here, he's too entertaining

Nominative · 17/05/2025 01:39

RandyRedHumpback · 16/05/2025 21:58

The man is CHIMPO of a mental health organization earning $1m a year to preach mental health to others. He is in no position to be lecturing anyone on mental health if, 5 years after "freedom" from the RF, after all his cathartic "tell all" vehicles, and with his wife crowing about them being in the honeymoon stage, he's filing this sort of emotive stuff in court documents. But here's where I don't believe him. I don't think he is mentally struggling/scared, not to the extent he makes out. I think he lays it on thick to garner sympathy and elicit guilty feelings and a sense of obligation from the RF/press/court/public when he sees fit, as he was doing in that BBC interview the other week.

And it's all connected to his constant attempts to monetise his mother. The sainted Diana had mental health problems, he's her true son not William so there, therefore he's a sensitive flower with mental health problems and that just proves people should idolise him in the same way as he thinks they idolised Diana.

binkie163 · 17/05/2025 06:01

RandyRedHumpback · 16/05/2025 21:58

The man is CHIMPO of a mental health organization earning $1m a year to preach mental health to others. He is in no position to be lecturing anyone on mental health if, 5 years after "freedom" from the RF, after all his cathartic "tell all" vehicles, and with his wife crowing about them being in the honeymoon stage, he's filing this sort of emotive stuff in court documents. But here's where I don't believe him. I don't think he is mentally struggling/scared, not to the extent he makes out. I think he lays it on thick to garner sympathy and elicit guilty feelings and a sense of obligation from the RF/press/court/public when he sees fit, as he was doing in that BBC interview the other week.

Yes, he is no different than someone who pretends to have whiplash after an accident to get compensation.
He exaggerates everything, small irrelevant details become monumental in his version of events. He must be exhausting to be around.

marcopront · 17/05/2025 06:26

If they are affected by that then what about articles about Prince Andrew?

I hope they never read his book.

Vespanest · 17/05/2025 07:03

I can't see how it would even be a talking point in the inner working of LA. I'd hazard a guess that most of his neighbours, acquaintances and friends have varying connections to Diddy. Harry has released much more damaging information that will impact his children. Archie will probably find out information such as suicide ideation, racist family all from his parents before he is cognitively and emotionally mature enough to process. It can be extremely difficult for children to differentiate that they are not the leading role of the story or the cause and effect.

Grrrpredictivetex · 17/05/2025 07:49

I thought they didn’t read the dreaded press articles, they had people who did it for them? I’m beginning to think to save money it’s Archie and Lili who are those people!!

AtIusvue · 17/05/2025 07:54

Grrrpredictivetex · 17/05/2025 07:49

I thought they didn’t read the dreaded press articles, they had people who did it for them? I’m beginning to think to save money it’s Archie and Lili who are those people!!

😂

Turns out Harry and Megs so called war room….is actually just the kids playroom!

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/05/2025 07:57

Except as clickbait I'm not sure why the Guardian are bothering with this at all, considering the case was settled out of court, that Harry whining someone else has got it in for him is nothing new and that what he claims clearly isn't to be relied on anyway

On more current news I thought the pre trial hearings for his case against the Mail were taking place ... anyone know any updates?

FenellaFeldman · 17/05/2025 08:02

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/05/2025 07:57

Except as clickbait I'm not sure why the Guardian are bothering with this at all, considering the case was settled out of court, that Harry whining someone else has got it in for him is nothing new and that what he claims clearly isn't to be relied on anyway

On more current news I thought the pre trial hearings for his case against the Mail were taking place ... anyone know any updates?

It's not really about the court case, it's the extraordinary claim about his children's mental health. I think there are valid questions to be asked about the Sussexes' parenting if small children are involved in this kind of discussion.
Harry can blame the Guardian (sorry, the "British press"), he can blame the RF, he can blame RAVEC, he can blame the Home Office or whoever is to blame currently for hiccups in his life.
However, his small children should not be impacted by any of this.

AmeliaHarbottle · 17/05/2025 08:06

FenellaFeldman · 17/05/2025 08:02

It's not really about the court case, it's the extraordinary claim about his children's mental health. I think there are valid questions to be asked about the Sussexes' parenting if small children are involved in this kind of discussion.
Harry can blame the Guardian (sorry, the "British press"), he can blame the RF, he can blame RAVEC, he can blame the Home Office or whoever is to blame currently for hiccups in his life.
However, his small children should not be impacted by any of this.

It’s disturbing. They don’t see any wider family apart from Doria , and they have two basket cases for parents. Poor children.

Mirroar · 17/05/2025 08:08

My favourite was when he was waffling on about telling his then 5 year old all about landmines. Thankfully suspect it's lies, but so strange he wouldn't see that it was inappropriate AF; same with this, if they've seen it its his fault!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/05/2025 08:17

I get what you're saying about his claims re the kids, @fenellafeldman - it's just that it doesn't seem any surprise when we already know that Harry will co-opt anything to serve his victim narrative

Yes it's disgusting if he's allowing the children to be caught up in this, but then as we've seen a lot of his behaviour is disgusting so ...

FenellaFeldman · 17/05/2025 08:27

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/05/2025 08:17

I get what you're saying about his claims re the kids, @fenellafeldman - it's just that it doesn't seem any surprise when we already know that Harry will co-opt anything to serve his victim narrative

Yes it's disgusting if he's allowing the children to be caught up in this, but then as we've seen a lot of his behaviour is disgusting so ...

Yes, you're absolutely right, and it's concerning that he will, as you say, co-opt anything for his victim narrative. Even small children who even now are only just 6 and coming up to 4.

RandyRedHumpback · 17/05/2025 08:53

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/05/2025 07:57

Except as clickbait I'm not sure why the Guardian are bothering with this at all, considering the case was settled out of court, that Harry whining someone else has got it in for him is nothing new and that what he claims clearly isn't to be relied on anyway

On more current news I thought the pre trial hearings for his case against the Mail were taking place ... anyone know any updates?

There was a pre-trail hearing on 6-7 May. Someone linked an article from the Telegraph about the first day on another thread.

The case is in the disclosure of evidence stage. Basically, what I understand from the reporting is happening is that Harry's side (there are a number of litigants) are saying, in X article, you said this about me, and this can only have been discovered through unlawful information gathering (UIG). The DM are presenting counter-evidence through documents that X article was based on "legitimate" sources, eg, people in the know who have blabbed to them - not UIG. I am assuming what is being presented is stuff like payment ledgers showing payouts to sources, investigators etc. The DM evidence contains redactions about stuff that is not part of the claims from Harry's side. David Sherborne for Harry's side wants that other redacted stuff revealed to show that UIG is evidenced there - not necessarily UIG against the claimants themselves or in X article being cited, but evidence that the practice went on in general.

The DM's barrister said this was a big fishing expedition by Sherborne to try to expand his list of claimants. And also to make a claim that because UIG was used by the DM (allegedly) in some instances, then this is enough to prove that Harry et al were the subject of UIG.

The judge was having none of it, saying Harry's side, must have some basis for their claim that THEY (not others) were the subject of UIG in X article. That Harry's side was close to staying that any defense over a particular article's sources was irrelevant as long as it can be shown that in other instances (not relevant to these particular claimants) UIG was used by the paper. The judge told David Sherborne off for attempting to turn the trial into a public enquiry by dredging over the journalists' entire body of work to find evidence of unlawful information gathering.

I am not sure what happened on the subsequent day of the hearing. I think the trial itself is scheduled for next year.

Thedom · 17/05/2025 08:54

My god, have they no shame, hopefully he is lying about his little kids having mental health issues, if not, how tragic he has exposed his kids to UK media headlines that would cause them distress. If he is lying, it's just as bad, to put that label on them at such a young age for the sole reason of getting sympathy for HiMSELF..

I just don't get why they are dragging their kids into everything, Meghans Social Media self promotion, dropping tidbits here and there of what the kids say, what they look like, now using them as emotional blackmail in Harry's court cases. Even his public security complaints on BBC saying his kids are not safe in the UK, imagine the impact that would have on the kids if he is telling them the reason they are not visiting the UK. Will they ever feel secure anywhere?

The more they comment about their kids, the more its beginning to look like they are living a very messed up childhood.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 17/05/2025 08:59

Spare 2: Even Sparer
Chapter 47: The Breakfast Scandal

The scent of organic millet wafted through the Montecito morning like a whisper of California smugness. I’d risen late — a rare indulgence — and padded barefoot into the kitchen, the terracotta tiles cool beneath my feet. The sun was bleeding gold through the wide windows, bathing everything in the forgiving light of new beginnings.

I heard her before I saw her.

Clink. Clink. Shffft.

Lilibet Diana — light incarnate, with the same almost telepathic poise as my mother — was seated at the massive reclaimed teak breakfast table, methodically forking bits of ethically-sourced mango and vegan flaxseed waffle into her mouth with the solemnity of a High Court judge.

Her rosy gold hair was perfectly unbrushed, tangled like a small, anarchic crown, just as Mummy’s had been on those rare, intimate mornings in the country when protocol briefly gave way to humanity.

Then I saw it. Propped in front of her plate, like some ghastly totem of the Old World, was The Sun newspaper. Actual paper. In our house.

I stopped mid-step, heart thudding like I’d found a landmine in the pantry.

“Good morrrning, Papa,” she intoned, without looking up. Her diction was crisp, unnervingly so, and unplaceably... aristocratic. The tilt of her head, that conspiratorial gleam in her eye, was pure Mummy. She had that way of making formality feel like theatre.

“Morning, love,” I said warily, moving toward her like she might explode into a Rupert Murdoch hologram at any moment. “Whatcha reading there?”

She finally looked up.

Her blue, blue eyes, startlingly clear and utterly serious, narrowed — that penetrating gaze, that intuitive steel beneath gentleness. My mother used to look at people the same way when they lied to her.

“Daddy... might one inquire as to the veracity of this article?” she asked, stabbing the paper with her tiny fork like a miniature Poirot.

“‘Prince Harry and P Diddy’s Lost Night Out in London — New Revelations.’”

I blinked.

“Sorry, what?”

She adjusted the newspaper — she’d folded it neatly, the way Grandpa used to do — and peered over it.

Were you, or were you not, consorting with Mister Sean Combs at a private event in the year of our Lord 2007?”

Archie was there too, seated beside her and solemnly applying almond butter to a square of toast.

“Was it the night he lost his Rolex?” he asked, casually.

“Allegedly,” Lilibet said, nodding, her tone grand but her timing mischievous — just like Mummy. “But I’m more concerned about the larger implications. Why is Mister Diddy now named in a sex trafficking scandal, and did you attend any such parties?”

I stared at her.

“Of course not,” I said quickly. “I never went to those parties. I hung out with him once — once — after Granny Diana’s memorial concert. That was it. It was... it was actually kind of moving”

She folded the paper and laid down her fork like a gavel, eyes calm but unyielding. That mix of compassion and command — it chilled me, warmed me. Made me feel seen.

I rubbed my eyes. How had the dreaded British press managed to invade my home like a relic of the Empire — uninvited, insistent, and utterly convinced of its right to be everywhere it wasn’t wanted?

“Where did this paper even come from?” I enquired.

“Mummy says it was compost wrapping,” Archie offered. “It was under the organic kale.”

Of course. The bloody compost. Even the bin was betraying me now.

“We will need a full statement for the family newsletter, Papa,” she said gravely “Transparency is paramount. Also, the porridge is cold-pressed and completely bland. We’ll need to revisit the oat supplier.”

I slumped into the chair across from them, head in hands.

Dethroned by breakfast. Undone by The Sun.

FenellaFeldman · 17/05/2025 09:01

Thanks for that clarification, @RandyRedHumpback . @Thedom - those children are used almost daily as promotional material for their parents. Far too much is shared about them, and they're photographed and filmed for M"s merchandising. It doesn't matter that we don't see them completely - the cameras and the film crew are permanently there.

RandyRedHumpback · 17/05/2025 09:09

And that's such an important point @FenellaFeldman . Every time we are told by their supporters that, because all we se is the back of their head, no harm is being done, they forget that IRL, those kids will have a camera in their presence all the time and will be having to perform for the instagram postings all the time.

FenellaFeldman · 17/05/2025 09:11

RandyRedHumpback · 17/05/2025 09:09

And that's such an important point @FenellaFeldman . Every time we are told by their supporters that, because all we se is the back of their head, no harm is being done, they forget that IRL, those kids will have a camera in their presence all the time and will be having to perform for the instagram postings all the time.

Yes, and things will be shot and re- shot, the poses choreographed. I was reading about an influencer and she spends hours getting the images right, and re- shooting them.

Amberlynnswashcloth · 17/05/2025 09:35

Sadly, I think its inevitable that his kids will end up with anxiety problems. They're living such an odd life - practically in hiding. Despite efforts to give them a 'normal' life I'm sure in reality everything is secretive and paranoid. Imagine they're told (or learn) that the reason for this is because they're extended family are apparently racist and exploitative supervillains, that they've fled the UK for their own safety but are still in danger of kidnap and murder because the courts won't protect them. Now they're told that they're father is being framed for a crime he didn't commit and that they are not safe where they are. I don't think any child's MH is going to be great under those circumstances.

FenellaFeldman · 17/05/2025 09:36

Also "they wouldn't give you titles because of your skin colour"
"We're Prince and Princess" 🤔

TheAutumnCrow · 17/05/2025 09:45

It puts the Insta caption ‘Our son, the Sun’ into a somewhat different context.

RandyRedHumpback · 17/05/2025 10:08

TheAutumnCrow · 17/05/2025 09:45

It puts the Insta caption ‘Our son, the Sun’ into a somewhat different context.

When Prince George was born, the Sun newspaper changed its red banner to "The Son" just for that day. Maybe the Sussexes were jealous they didn't get the same.

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