Archie and Lili, in the future?

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Just musing, but once they get to adult age, would Harry's kids not be able to travel to the UK independently and meet up with their cousins/ rest of family if they want to? Do you think the UK cousins, and I'm including Zara's kids here, would want to meet them?

@Calliopespa I agree.

They will explain the lack of extended family due to the difficulties of join/leaving a royal family ( for both sides).
I’m sure the narrative will be the British side closed ranks and the US side caused trouble. They won’t do in and outs.

And meanwhile the kids will grow up in the dysfunctional and privileged world around them.
If family get togethers and being babysat by gran and grandad aren’t on snyonrs radar, it’s not missed.

It's certainly a challenge having to tell children that neither parent has contact with their fathers.

No that wasn’t the point being made I don’t think. The poster I replied to was trying to say the family having fallen out with relatives would spark fascination. I wish it would but sadly I’m this day and age I really think it’s a stretch. You only need to peruse these threads to realise NC is no rare thing.

Ime it does give fascination.

Both my girls as early teens came back from school with great excitement saying that a friend had found they had new relatives in a different country (cousins/half siblings) and they were trying to find out about them and wanted to meet them. Mostly FB stalking in those days.

But not only the child involved found it fascinating - so did all their friends.

I've been thinking more about this and I still think that so many, many people being NC with their parents will eventually impact A & L.

It's not just family, is it? When they look at the wedding pics for eg they'll learn that all those people (Jessica Mulroney and her brood) are now personae non grata (gratae??) too. Meghan's life is a highway absolutely littered with the corpses of cast-off friends and relations - surely you don't suggest that's normal? Yes, we all fall out with someone occasionally, but Meghan must be going for a world record. And not just her own family and 'friends' - Harry seems to have lost his too.

To be clear: I don't want their children to suffer for the crazy decisions of their parents - but the dysfunctional, usually very transactional, relationships which Meghan in particular has, might well affect them. Maybe the message they'll get is that it's normal to use and discard people and that relationships aren't meant to last? Who knows? Children like and need continuity - they don't want people to keep disappearing from their lives.

Sure, he's on the outs with 2 of his oldest daughters (out of a total of 7 children) because they dislike how he treated their mother. But that divorce happened in 1997, and he has been close to Harry in 2025. How would there be an impact, exactly?

Because it is premised upon:

1. Closeness with both sides. Not just Harry. Does he have any influence over William? I very much doubt it. He needs to be able to persuade William and Catherine, who may well be King and Queen by that stage and not conducive to their heirs/children being embroiled in Sussex drama. And while the children may be adults, they are unlikely to just ignore the wishes of their parents. You have fallen into the trap of what Harry wants, Harry gets. Just because Harry or his children want something, since they offer nothing in return (not so much as an apology) and bring plenty of negative with them (drama, Meghan and more drama), then what's in it for the Wales family?
2. Skill set: Sorry, but Charles Spencer has never worn the hat of diplomat never mind outstanding father. And he has plenty of his own demons to deal with. Why do you think he'd be a good fit for negotiating a peace between great nephews and neices he hardly knows (I'm guessing he's not around the Wales children any more than he is around the Sussex children)?
3. Charles Spencer's only moral hold over either side is the "memory of Diana". I don't get the impression the RF is too impressed by the cult of Diana, not even her beloved eldest son. She's a beautiful and tragic chapter of the royal past. She's honoured in small ways, but beyond that, I doubt William wants to look backwards or trust a brother who has abused his mother's memory for monetary gain. What do you think Charles Spencer is going to say to persuade him otherwise?
4. As I said above, what makes anyone think Harry and Meghan will have shut up by the time their children reach adulthood? I think the worst from these two is yet to come. The RF would be mad to get involved with children they don't know while their parents are still waging war against them.