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Archie and Lili, in the future?

207 replies

Coatigan · 03/05/2025 21:06

Just musing, but once they get to adult age, would Harry's kids not be able to travel to the UK independently and meet up with their cousins/ rest of family if they want to? Do you think the UK cousins, and I'm including Zara's kids here, would want to meet them?

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MagdaLenor · 06/05/2025 18:31

Harry and Meghan are very royal, and the status and privilege as a result of that are very important to them. I find it puzzling that they have avid supporters who claim to be republican? Why? If you're republican surely you don't support the worst kind of royal, which are those who don't even work officially as royals, but just get the benefits? Odd.

BruFord · 06/05/2025 18:34

I’ve mentioned this on other threads, but I’ve connected with my cousins in recent years (I’m 50 and they’re all in their 40’s and 50’s), because we’ve decided to ignore our parents’ past fallings-out and estrangements!

I’ve lived abroad for several years, but I wanted to get to know them so I asked my auntie to reach out on my behalf and we’ve met up several times when I’ve visited. Now our children, who are teenagers and young adults, are getting to know each other, and they seem to get on too.

A and L could get on with their cousins if everyone decides to start a new chapter-just because you live in a “forrrin” country and have a different upbringing doesn’t mean that you can’t connect with people.

Jk987 · 06/05/2025 18:41

They won’t be long lost relatives that Archie and Lili have to seek out! The UK royals will be in the media for all to see and the history behind the move to America will be online.

stillclueless · 06/05/2025 18:53

Snorlaxo · 06/05/2025 18:17

I wonder how Michael Jackson’s kids feel about their father’s actions in public when they were growing up? I think that they may be the closest situation to what Archie and Lilli are going through.

How is Harry’s situation anywhere close to that of MJ. He was accused of abusing countless children don’t tell me you are going to accuse Harry of that now.

CoffeeCantata · 06/05/2025 19:10

Apols if all this has already been said...I'm rushing about today but wanted to say this:

To be clear: I hope A and L will have happy lives - I wish them well. But I think H & M will have some very difficult questions to answer when they hit the teenage years. Or maybe sooner - once they start meeting other children and hear things about their parents. Children are not usually very tactful or discreet and their school-mates may well tell them, or ask them, embarrassing things.

I can't imagine they won't ask 'Mommy, Daddy - why haven't I got a grandpa?' Or aunts, uncles, cousins? How will H & M explain the estrangement from all their relations except for Doria? Assuming they won't go down the path of rubbishing their relations, this is going to be a difficult issue to explain for H & M. If they do bad mouth the RF and Meghan's family, that's not a good look either - it will be upsetting for the children to be told that they come from such unpleasant and dysfunctional people. And if H & M are stupid enough to say that their royal relations rejected them because they are mixed-race - that's going to store up all kinds of unpleasant feelings and issues for the future.

It's all very well while the children are young and still think their parents are wise and wonderful - but difficult times lie ahead for H & M when those questions start coming.

Mylovelygreendress · 06/05/2025 19:15

LunaDeBallona · 06/05/2025 17:34

I’ve been thinking about this while I was baking.
George, Charlotte and Louis have 4 (and maybe more to come) full cousins on Kate’s side.
On William’s side they are close to Peter Phillips girls, Zara and Mikes three and have Wolfie (Beatrice Stepson), plus 4 children from the York Sisters (2 girls and 2 boys)
All of these adults are William’s cousins and they all go with their children to Balmoral every year. They go to Sandringham for Christmas and they seem to meet up at horsey events during the year- plus, they probably have other get together we don’t know about.
So George, Charlotte and Louis have lots of family to play and socialise with and the majority of them seem very ‘down to earth’ with parents who work and don’t promote themselves or push for newspaper headlines.
I expect the Wales 3 children will be children of the King in 10 years when they are young adults - they will by then be at university/armed forces/starting a career, will have friends of their own and very busy lives.
Will they really have time, any interest or inclination to meet two Americans (as that’s what A&L will be, let’s not kid ourselves) whose parents have caused pain and grief to people they love (their parents and their grandfather, plus QEII and Prince Philip), who are unknown quantities and who might follow in their parents footsteps and blab everything to the press?
Would you risk it if you were the child of the King?
Ultimately there is nothing in it for George, Charlotte and Louis. They will have full lives, surrounded by people they love and importantly who they and their parents trust.
For Archie and Lili there’s everything to gain.

I truly believe William has totally moved on from Harry.
I believe he will always miss the person Harry was but there has been far far too much water under the bridge for William, who like his mother, can hold a grudge.
William has to put his own family and the Monarchy first - and he will.

I fully expect to see a removal of some or all titles when William becomes king.
On a personal level it doesn’t sit right with me that two Americans who never come to the UK have British Royal titles.
I also think he will reinstate his mother’s HRH but that’s another thread!

The Late Queen offered to reinstate HRH after Diana died however the Spencers said no.

Calliopespa · 06/05/2025 19:34

CoffeeCantata · 06/05/2025 19:10

Apols if all this has already been said...I'm rushing about today but wanted to say this:

To be clear: I hope A and L will have happy lives - I wish them well. But I think H & M will have some very difficult questions to answer when they hit the teenage years. Or maybe sooner - once they start meeting other children and hear things about their parents. Children are not usually very tactful or discreet and their school-mates may well tell them, or ask them, embarrassing things.

I can't imagine they won't ask 'Mommy, Daddy - why haven't I got a grandpa?' Or aunts, uncles, cousins? How will H & M explain the estrangement from all their relations except for Doria? Assuming they won't go down the path of rubbishing their relations, this is going to be a difficult issue to explain for H & M. If they do bad mouth the RF and Meghan's family, that's not a good look either - it will be upsetting for the children to be told that they come from such unpleasant and dysfunctional people. And if H & M are stupid enough to say that their royal relations rejected them because they are mixed-race - that's going to store up all kinds of unpleasant feelings and issues for the future.

It's all very well while the children are young and still think their parents are wise and wonderful - but difficult times lie ahead for H & M when those questions start coming.

Oh for goodness sake!

They are living in California not Little House on the Prairie.

This is the land of Hollywood and Malibu. Do you really think anyone is going to ask why they didn’t have a cousin over for Thanksgiving when they could be wondering instead which of another friend’s parents is the trans one, or why their Dad’s sixth wife looks exactly the same as his second after getting their facelift done by the same surgeon?

This thread is just a hateful gloat over the fact Harry and Meghan are (currently) getting the cold shoulder and a desperately hopeful projection that it stays that way. It might all change. Things do.

CoffeeCantata · 06/05/2025 19:58

Calliopespa · 06/05/2025 19:34

Oh for goodness sake!

They are living in California not Little House on the Prairie.

This is the land of Hollywood and Malibu. Do you really think anyone is going to ask why they didn’t have a cousin over for Thanksgiving when they could be wondering instead which of another friend’s parents is the trans one, or why their Dad’s sixth wife looks exactly the same as his second after getting their facelift done by the same surgeon?

This thread is just a hateful gloat over the fact Harry and Meghan are (currently) getting the cold shoulder and a desperately hopeful projection that it stays that way. It might all change. Things do.

Say what now?? 🤔

I can't relate your response to anything in my post. To recap in simple language:

Are you really suggesting that there's nothing odd about having no contact with any but one of your extended family? My point is that young children will accept whatever they find, but once they start getting out in the world among others, and/or growing up, they'll start to question it.

I wouldn't like to be H & M when that happens.

CoffeeCantata · 06/05/2025 20:02

This thread is just a hateful gloat over the fact Harry and Meghan are (currently) getting the cold shoulder and a desperately hopeful projection that it stays that way. It might all change. Things do.

It's been changing for the last 6/7 years and not for the better.

I don't see how things can improve in family relationship terms for Harry and Meghan.

There's no hope of a reconciliation now with his family, and in terms of popularity, respect and influence Harry and Meghan have utterly jumped the shark. They are washed up, and I think they know it.

Calliopespa · 06/05/2025 20:08

CoffeeCantata · 06/05/2025 19:58

Say what now?? 🤔

I can't relate your response to anything in my post. To recap in simple language:

Are you really suggesting that there's nothing odd about having no contact with any but one of your extended family? My point is that young children will accept whatever they find, but once they start getting out in the world among others, and/or growing up, they'll start to question it.

I wouldn't like to be H & M when that happens.

I’m saying plenty of people are estranged from family. Sometimes on MN I wonder if it isn’t more common than not. I certainly don’t think it will rank very high in the charts of weird and wonderful family situations in California.

Calliopespa · 06/05/2025 20:09

CoffeeCantata · 06/05/2025 20:02

This thread is just a hateful gloat over the fact Harry and Meghan are (currently) getting the cold shoulder and a desperately hopeful projection that it stays that way. It might all change. Things do.

It's been changing for the last 6/7 years and not for the better.

I don't see how things can improve in family relationship terms for Harry and Meghan.

There's no hope of a reconciliation now with his family, and in terms of popularity, respect and influence Harry and Meghan have utterly jumped the shark. They are washed up, and I think they know it.

Well some people on here will be feeling very satisfied.

Calliopespa · 06/05/2025 20:23

Calliopespa · 06/05/2025 20:08

I’m saying plenty of people are estranged from family. Sometimes on MN I wonder if it isn’t more common than not. I certainly don’t think it will rank very high in the charts of weird and wonderful family situations in California.

To this I would add, I think you might find their classmates will be less fixated on their relatives and more open-minded to situations than you are predicting.

NewAgeNewMe · 06/05/2025 20:31

CoffeeCantata · 06/05/2025 19:58

Say what now?? 🤔

I can't relate your response to anything in my post. To recap in simple language:

Are you really suggesting that there's nothing odd about having no contact with any but one of your extended family? My point is that young children will accept whatever they find, but once they start getting out in the world among others, and/or growing up, they'll start to question it.

I wouldn't like to be H & M when that happens.

My mother thinks the RF and both sides of Meghan’s family are all at fault. She can’t see the common denominator at all. I doubt she is the only one. It’s weird she’s usually sensible but on this she’ll not be moved!

MagdaLenor · 06/05/2025 20:37

NewAgeNewMe · 06/05/2025 20:31

My mother thinks the RF and both sides of Meghan’s family are all at fault. She can’t see the common denominator at all. I doubt she is the only one. It’s weird she’s usually sensible but on this she’ll not be moved!

I think it's partly because H&M have spent time and money spinning their side of the story. For 5 years we've only heard their tawdry tales. The RF haven't responded, so it's difficult to get the correct version of events.

LunaDeBallona · 06/05/2025 20:42

NewAgeNewMe · 06/05/2025 20:31

My mother thinks the RF and both sides of Meghan’s family are all at fault. She can’t see the common denominator at all. I doubt she is the only one. It’s weird she’s usually sensible but on this she’ll not be moved!

What does she (your mother)say regarding the plethora of events/recollections that have been proved to be utter lies?

*edited to add a word so it made sense!

NewAgeNewMe · 06/05/2025 20:53

Yes when challenged she thinks they are right to be upset and everything is the fault of the big evil royal family. There is no reasoning with her either both me and my sister have tried.

She honestly thinks if that’s his truth then it’s fine. You can guess she’s a huge republican. When asked then why she supports them as they want all the fanfare and titles; she says Harry and his dcs have it by birthright 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Letsummercommence · 06/05/2025 21:33

They might well be something in their own right though . They will have money, connections and social capital.
Whatever type of adults they eventually become they will always have a story to tell in their parents.
Maybe they are nothing in terms of British monarchy but they are undeniably privileged by dint of birth.

Op

MagdaLenor · 06/05/2025 21:36

NewAgeNewMe · 06/05/2025 20:53

Yes when challenged she thinks they are right to be upset and everything is the fault of the big evil royal family. There is no reasoning with her either both me and my sister have tried.

She honestly thinks if that’s his truth then it’s fine. You can guess she’s a huge republican. When asked then why she supports them as they want all the fanfare and titles; she says Harry and his dcs have it by birthright 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

A Republican who supports birthright?

Livingbeyondyourmemes · 06/05/2025 21:46

NewAgeNewMe · 06/05/2025 20:53

Yes when challenged she thinks they are right to be upset and everything is the fault of the big evil royal family. There is no reasoning with her either both me and my sister have tried.

She honestly thinks if that’s his truth then it’s fine. You can guess she’s a huge republican. When asked then why she supports them as they want all the fanfare and titles; she says Harry and his dcs have it by birthright 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Your mother's not an RF board stalwart, is she?!

Livingbeyondyourmemes · 06/05/2025 21:50

You never know, Lily and Archie may prefer to seek out their US family on their mother's side, both paternal and maternal. They already know their cousin, Ashley well. I think there are at least 3 other first cousins. And they might even seek out their grandpa Markle if he's still living when they reach adulthood.

NewAgeNewMe · 06/05/2025 22:08

MagdaLenor · 06/05/2025 21:36

A Republican who supports birthright?

I know you can’t make it up.

@Livingbeyondyourmemes i don’t think so as she’s not really into social media, she’s also very busy and probably doesn’t have time. But I’m going to do some surreptitious digging 😁

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 06/05/2025 22:11

CountryQueen · 03/05/2025 21:43

If you lived on a different continent to your dad’s cousins kids and never met them would you go seek them out? Weird

Well given they’ll read all about each other in the media, and Harry’s kids’ titles are from the Uk, and Harry appears to be in touch with some cousins, I’m gonna say yes.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 06/05/2025 22:12

Livingbeyondyourmemes · 06/05/2025 21:50

You never know, Lily and Archie may prefer to seek out their US family on their mother's side, both paternal and maternal. They already know their cousin, Ashley well. I think there are at least 3 other first cousins. And they might even seek out their grandpa Markle if he's still living when they reach adulthood.

I doubt it, somehow.

They are somewhat less interesting (and rich)

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 06/05/2025 22:15

Calliopespa · 06/05/2025 20:08

I’m saying plenty of people are estranged from family. Sometimes on MN I wonder if it isn’t more common than not. I certainly don’t think it will rank very high in the charts of weird and wonderful family situations in California.

Of course it will.

You do not get many Princes to the pound in Cali, never mind those belonging to the world’s most famous R family.

Livingbeyondyourmemes · 06/05/2025 22:30

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 06/05/2025 22:12

I doubt it, somehow.

They are somewhat less interesting (and rich)

Ah, but for kids brought up being harangued about their royal legacy, being used by their parents to poke at their royal relatives, and being used for jam - sorry spread - advertising, it might be the ultimate rebellion for them to opt for a life of hanging out in Mexico and giving tell all interviews about their parents to Dan Wootten.

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