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Why is Sarah Ferguson at the Easter service?

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Lazycatsitsonthemat · 20/04/2025 22:29

I am really perplexed about why SF attends all Royal events since the death of the Queen when Andrew
is present. She behaves like his wife but she isn’t his wife. What on earth is going on? I cannot think of another situation like this where an ex wife lives with her ex husband and attends all public events with him as though they are still married. It’s bizarre.

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sofasoda · 21/04/2025 02:05

Catherine took her time to investigate and establish her work unlike that head the ball Meghan Markle who just dives right in!

Why are you comparing them? So tell me what is the early years legacy?

Leafy3 · 21/04/2025 02:07

It's a common misperception that Henry VIII became a protestant. One could perhaps argue he flirted with it while with Anne Boleyn, and Thomas Cranmer certainly became Archbish of Canterbury during his reign...But Henry's reforms didn't extend much further than the Dissolution of Monasteries, for which there was a significant financial incentive.

Granted, he was very proud of the Pope declaring him "Defender of the Faith" (to date, the monarch still claims this title) and there were widespread concerns of corruption within Catholicism at the time, which were conveniently stamped out while monasteries were dissolved, but pp is right - he remained Catholic to the end.

Edward's religious zeal rivalled Mary's.

DrPrunesqualer · 21/04/2025 02:07

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/04/2025 02:02

In 1534, Henry VIII declared himself supreme head of the church of England lol!

Not a Protestant church !! Ever!

please don’t post laughing images at my comments

look at your history ( deeper than gcse and even Alevel ) or perhaps look at the religion he was following

you will see very clearly it was the Catholic church
He died a Catholic
He was always a Catholic and only ever got rid of the Pope. That’s it

no religious changes at all

It’s a lot deeper than school book stuff that everyone reads.

Have you never heard the high Church of England Pray for the Catholic Church, didn’t you hear it at the Coronation at least

DrPrunesqualer · 21/04/2025 02:12

DrPrunesqualer · 21/04/2025 02:07

Not a Protestant church !! Ever!

please don’t post laughing images at my comments

look at your history ( deeper than gcse and even Alevel ) or perhaps look at the religion he was following

you will see very clearly it was the Catholic church
He died a Catholic
He was always a Catholic and only ever got rid of the Pope. That’s it

no religious changes at all

It’s a lot deeper than school book stuff that everyone reads.

Have you never heard the high Church of England Pray for the Catholic Church, didn’t you hear it at the Coronation at least

He’s a very basic starter from MyTutor but obviously the info is everywhere in historical text ( if added this as it was the first Google that’s all )
Then after it’s worth comparing the two religions and when the changes were made
nb. It’s quite the task but worth the research if you’re invested

Why is Sarah Ferguson at the Easter service?
Tbrh · 21/04/2025 02:12

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/04/2025 02:03

Catherine took her time to investigate and establish her work unlike that head the ball Meghan Markle who just dives right in!

At least she works 🤷🏻‍♀️ I can honestly say I don't know anything that Kate has done that has stood out, except for her lovely coats and nice hair.

Springtimehere · 21/04/2025 02:14

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Leafy3 · 21/04/2025 02:18

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/04/2025 02:02

In 1534, Henry VIII declared himself supreme head of the church of England lol!

He did, but what @DrPrunesqualer and I are telling you is that the Church of England didn't actually become recognisably protestant until Edward's reign. Henry remained Catholic in practice all his life, as did the new Church of England during his lifetime.

The Reformation in England didn't happen overnight, it begun under Henry - prominent reformers ended up in positions of political power and drove the beginnings of Protestantism - but Henry was seduced by the theory that no person should have authority of England or the English monarch.

It isn't straightforward, it's a big historical topic, and typical of Henry to pick and choose the bits he wanted (a bit like Trump tbh). He believed much of Protestantism as heresy.

Edward & Elizabeth were both raised as Protestants and both had reputations as devout Protestants from childhood. When Edward succeeded Henry, he (and the prominent Reformers in his government) set about making sweeping reforms, including the introduction of the Book of Common Prayer.

Edward was every bit as zealous in his religiosity as his sister Mary, who quickly undid everything he and Henry has changed. By the time Elizabeth acceded to the throne, the English people had whiplash from the changes they'd lived though.

Sunshineandpool · 21/04/2025 02:25

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/04/2025 01:48

He established himself as head of the Protestant church!!

No, he didn't. Henry VIII was not a supporter of the protestant church.

Helpforthosethatneedit · 21/04/2025 02:28

A lot of this if rumours I've heard from people slightly inside or papers, but this is my understanding and probably not that correct, but here goes.

Prince philip never liked s.f., rest of the family did and knew she was good for Andrew. Andrew was the favourite son at the time and no-one would have been good enough, but she was considered particularly common. But her toe-sucking gate after his misdemeanours meant they were made to divorce. Even at the time, insiders knew they were always an on-again, off-again couple who never lost their feelings. She made mistakes in the eyes of the rf (weight watchers adverts etc) after the divorce. Financially she was reckless i think, but costs to see her kids and feel secure would gave been high. Going to u.s. was considered a betrayal. After Prince Philip's death she started attending things again and now she's the more popular of her and Andrew, she's welcomed back into the fold slightly. Also, partly because one of their children (can't remember if Beatrice or eugenie) was extremely close to the Queen and she's her mother, she was allowed back in as a mark of respect. Very complicated! The Queen gave Sf and Andrew some corgis in her will. I think they've always loved each other deeply/understood each other. With the pressure of rf, a marriage was perhaps too intense.

I find Sophie Wessex interesting. Edward became favorite after Andrew married and again, sophie's common-ish with pr background made the rf very suspicious of her. She's navigated it incredibly well (especially after nearly dying in childbirth, but keeping pretty hush on it as wasn't that long after Diana died). Sophie has been incredible and worked diligently for rf and was very close to the late Queen.

kaela100 · 21/04/2025 02:35

I think keeping her and her kids relevant after Andrew's scandal is disgusting. They should all have been forced to quietly retire

TheHerboriste · 21/04/2025 02:37

Why is this being derailed by Henry VIII?

Leafy3 · 21/04/2025 02:37

@kaela100 why? They're not culpable for his actions

Tbrh · 21/04/2025 02:39

TheHerboriste · 21/04/2025 02:37

Why is this being derailed by Henry VIII?

Sorry that was my fault, but it's so interesting!

Girlking · 21/04/2025 02:50

Maddy70 · 20/04/2025 22:47

They clearly had to get divorced because she had an affair but they are still living together and living as a couple. It's the worst kept secret

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DrPrunesqualer · 21/04/2025 03:16

TheHerboriste · 21/04/2025 02:37

Why is this being derailed by Henry VIII?

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because he was such a badass just like William for not goin to church today…..🤣

Zanzara · 21/04/2025 03:19

DrPrunesqualer · 21/04/2025 01:47

Agree. He will be head of the church.
Cant imagine the Pope finds other things that are more important to do at Easter. Or any Sunday tbh,

Yes. I've often admired how the Pope juggles work with his family commitments.

DrPrunesqualer · 21/04/2025 03:22

Zanzara · 21/04/2025 03:19

Yes. I've often admired how the Pope juggles work with his family commitments.

I agree as he is the Father of all Catholics.
That’s 1.4billion !

bedtime must be hell 😁

Zanzara · 21/04/2025 03:27

😄

Tomatotater · 21/04/2025 03:28

DrPrunesqualer · 21/04/2025 01:47

Agree. He will be head of the church.
Cant imagine the Pope finds other things that are more important to do at Easter. Or any Sunday tbh,

The Pope was at deaths door a few weeks ago, yet managed to do an Easter message. Charles is a 75 year old man with cancer. Kate is in remission. They have been on 3 holidays this year, and it's only April! They have numerous staff to cook for Kate/ the kids during a one hour church service. Their lifestyles depend on the continuation of the Monarchy. William, as a result should be doing more, even just to show his face. He can't be bothered because he thinks he can get away with doing as little as possible.

PickettWhiteFences · 21/04/2025 03:28

Helpforthosethatneedit · 21/04/2025 02:28

A lot of this if rumours I've heard from people slightly inside or papers, but this is my understanding and probably not that correct, but here goes.

Prince philip never liked s.f., rest of the family did and knew she was good for Andrew. Andrew was the favourite son at the time and no-one would have been good enough, but she was considered particularly common. But her toe-sucking gate after his misdemeanours meant they were made to divorce. Even at the time, insiders knew they were always an on-again, off-again couple who never lost their feelings. She made mistakes in the eyes of the rf (weight watchers adverts etc) after the divorce. Financially she was reckless i think, but costs to see her kids and feel secure would gave been high. Going to u.s. was considered a betrayal. After Prince Philip's death she started attending things again and now she's the more popular of her and Andrew, she's welcomed back into the fold slightly. Also, partly because one of their children (can't remember if Beatrice or eugenie) was extremely close to the Queen and she's her mother, she was allowed back in as a mark of respect. Very complicated! The Queen gave Sf and Andrew some corgis in her will. I think they've always loved each other deeply/understood each other. With the pressure of rf, a marriage was perhaps too intense.

I find Sophie Wessex interesting. Edward became favorite after Andrew married and again, sophie's common-ish with pr background made the rf very suspicious of her. She's navigated it incredibly well (especially after nearly dying in childbirth, but keeping pretty hush on it as wasn't that long after Diana died). Sophie has been incredible and worked diligently for rf and was very close to the late Queen.

Sarah might have been a commoner but she comes from an upper class background, I believe her father was Prince Charles equerry. It wasnt an arranged marriage, however it probably seemed a good idea for Andrew to marry a young girl with aristocratic ties. The Queen effectively forced Andrew to end his relationship with Koo Stark as she was an actress with somewhat dubious roles. But yes, Prince Philip was the instigator for their divorce.

Sophie comes from your bog standard middle class home counties background, and I think she had to prove her 'worth' in the 90s because of that. I agree she's done well to survive 30 years of being in the 'firm', it cant have been easy when she gave up her career.

Tomatotater · 21/04/2025 03:34

DrPrunesqualer · 21/04/2025 01:44

@Tomatotater

Henry viii made himself head of the Catholic Church in England though. He remained Catholic till death, he just didn’t accept the Pope as the Head.

The Church of England evolved after with his son Edward, who was brought up Protestant, came to the thrown.

So Henry being divorced never was a Church of England thing

Edited

I know, and I agree that Henry made himself head of the Catholic church in England (and snaffled all the land that belonged to the Church) rather than became Protestant. I think Catherine Parr was very interested in protestantism and influenced Edward, who was protestant when he became King. I think someone else said he was Head of the Church of England.

user1492757084 · 21/04/2025 03:34

She doesn't attend official events. Sarah and anyone else is free to attend church at Easter. It's fair that family, even a Royal one, can associate with each other at Easter. Andrew goes to the service and Fergie goes as she lives with him.

It would be much more odd to see Andrew and Fergie attending the church a mile away on their own.
They are supportive of King Charles, as gullible as they both are to being swept up by people with ill intent..

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 21/04/2025 03:40

I have only read all of your posts @Lazycatsitsonthemat so I may be repeating something that others have said: Sara Ferguson tends to attend the large Christian festivals with her extended family.

Her ex brother-in-law is the King of England (and other countries) and Head of the Church of England. Why on Earth would Sarah go to a different Christian Church on a Sunday than the one most of the rest of her extended family were attending? That would make a lot less sense than her being welcomed to the local Church where the rest of the her extended family - ex in-laws or not - were worshipping.

Even if none of them were Royals, as a Christian family they should welcome any other Christians staying in the parish, to share their worship at their local church.

DrPrunesqualer · 21/04/2025 03:44

Tomatotater · 21/04/2025 03:34

I know, and I agree that Henry made himself head of the Catholic church in England (and snaffled all the land that belonged to the Church) rather than became Protestant. I think Catherine Parr was very interested in protestantism and influenced Edward, who was protestant when he became King. I think someone else said he was Head of the Church of England.

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DreamTheMoors · 21/04/2025 04:11

BernieBarks · 20/04/2025 22:37

She knows too much . Keep your friends close ....

I was wondering that myself - or a way to keep Andrew happy, perhaps.

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