Harry and RAVEC #2

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I think protocol rules in general got a bit stuck in the 50s because the late Queen reigned for so long. When Charles succeeded there was an immediate difference in walkabouts (i can't imagine anyone hugging the late Queen) and I would be amazed if things hadn't changed in private as well.

Meghan had an amazing opportunity when she married H. She would have been given time to learn the ropes and to be a Mum. The problem was she thought she could do it better and wanted to be the next Diana.

Meghan was a C list actress who, upon marrying into the RF, was appointed Royal Patron of the National Theatre. Just imagine what she could have done with this gig!

But, instead of being at the epicentre of the greatest cultural city on the planet, she is kicking her heals around bloody Montecito, desperately trying to become the next Martha Stewart.

No disrespect to MS, but seriously... I wonder whether MM ever wakes up in the night, thinking "what have I done!!"

I think the senior Royal life model bored her to death. She’d have been better as a Zara/Mike participant. There for the fun and glam stuff but not having to commit to all the formal events.

There’s a lot of sitting, listening, smiling, sitting though church services and memorials. Lots of time between needing to be filled with appropriate activities.

If you have a rich inner life and lots of hobbies and activities you can thrive.

Sophie pouring over the military archives for example.

Kate doing all her sporty stuff, plus drawing, painting, playing the piano etc.

You need to keep busy in those environments otherwise you’d end up non stop doom scrolling on the DM comments section and getting into your own paranoid head about what everyone was saying about you.

I get all this, @wordler - but she was an actress being given a key role in one of the greatest theatrical institutions on the planet!

She could have stuck her teeth into it and had the time of her life. Any theatrical door in the country would have opened for her. Any theatre director or famous actor would have put her on their preferred list for first nights, attending rehearsals and dinner parties with everybody who is anybody in the theatre.

Unless acting and theatre wasn't really her thing and she just wanted to be mega-famous...?

I don't think she had any interest in the actual art of acting ,live stage performances or the beautiful theatres, she just wanted to be famous.

She was never a Sigourney Weaver or a Cate Blanchett though.
Inevitably she'd have been around better actors than she was and, just my opinion, I think first nights of serious plays may have bored her although she seems to like musicals and, if her private conversation is similar to her public pronouncements, she may have bored her fellow theatrical dinner party guests.

Eta So it may not have been the match made in Heaven that TLQ foresaw.

Meghan reminds me of when you tell white lies to keep other people happy or impress them and then it backfires and you are stuck with the consequences.

Like telling your co-worker you love her baking even though it made you feel sick and then she brings you baked goods every Friday for the rest of your life.

Or telling your mother in law that you love Opera when you don’t and getting a season subscription for your birthday.

Harry rushed her into marriage before she’d experienced even one full cycle of the reality of the Royal family’s season where they do the same events each year for the rest of their lives.

They both rushed into marriage. Meghan had been married before and lived with another. She would have ended with Harry come hell or high water. I’ve been told that it’s a proper love match by a friend of a friend of a friend. I hope it’s true.

Re Ravec appeal - it just occurred to me we are now officially "not before Easter" 😂 ⚖📃 🍿 👮 🚓 ? 🔫?

I was thinking the same thing. I wonder how long after Easter 'not before Easter' is ?

It will probably take quite a while for the judgement to be released yet - once the judge has finished it it gets sent to the parties under strict conditions of confidentiality so they can check it and let the judge know of any errors etc. In this case, they will also then need to agree what should be redacted before it is made public.

You normally have a draft judgement for a week or so, but in this case it could well be held in draft for quite a while to consider the redactions. For the first judgment in this case for example, the draft was provided to the parties on 1 February last year, and then only released publicly on 28 February.

Thanks as ever for the clarification, @Serenster, but if it first "gets sent to the parties under strict conditions of confidentiality" I'd say there's every chance of Harry leaking the result before the process ends

Oh no, I really think he won’t! The Court takes breaches of the confidentiality of draft judgements extremely seriously. A party that breaches the order is routinely required to explain to the court exactly how it happened.

Harry’s team would definitely not want that - his barrister and the Schillings legal team in the judicial review have already been criticised by a judge for not complying with the confidentiality rules back in back in 2022. Harry’s legal team had shared the draft judgment then with a partner at Schillings who specialised in reputation management and is not a qualified lawyer. The judge said that was an entirely unacceptable breach of the embargo and also told off his KC Shaheed Fatima for not immediately notifying the court as soon as she found out about it.

Will Harry think the rules apply to him though?

I think the fact that they felt the need to share it with a reputation management specialist speaks volumes

I might be getting my court cases mixed up (I suppose it’s easy enough with the amount there have been) but didn’t he get in trouble for breaching confidentiality last time, after emailing politicians information from the court case?

Edit: I refreshed my page and quoted the wrong person 🫣 you answered the question in your post 🤦🏼‍♀️)

I totally agree. She’s not a cultured person at all. It actually pisses me off that she didn’t seem to appreciate what a privilege it was to have that patronage. I love going to the theatre but the cost of tickets is astronomical these days. I bet she was wildly jealous of Kate’s position with the LTA, not because she loves tennis but she clearly adored sitting in the royal box with celebrities.

I also thought she would have loved that patronage, many would have killed for that one. I’m glad Camilla has taken over it, she looks like she’s thoroughly enjoying it. I imagine she is jolly good company and secretly be up for a dirty joke over a glass of G&T once official duties are over.

Yes, I feel like Meghan would have enjoyed the privileges of being patron of the TLA. I imagine she may have been a bit stunned when Catherine got her standing ovation from the crowd last year and started to wonder whether her escape to freedom was worth it when she witnessed just how loved a royal can be when you do it right. Harry must lament it too. He went from one of the most popular royals to one of the least (save for his wife and horrible Uncle!). What a fall from grace, eh?

Famous and rich . Very rich.

I’d prefer to be rich. Very rich. Sadly not happening 🤣

That could be one of the reasons she insists on going to Invictus - trying to get a bit of the vibe of the Wimbledon crowd towards her.

Meghan was never interested in acting per se. She wanted to be a star and famous, and get all the endorsements being a star brings. Acting is a vocation that takes you to tiny theatres with an audience of 10, where you act your heart out for pocket change, just for the love of it and belief in the craft of it. Occasionally you can be both, or go from one to the other through a progression of indie films that become cult or one lucky breakthrough role that catapults you; but increasingly not these days. Too much nepotism (do actors' kids not go into any normal professions?), too many singers and models turned actors, too much emphasis on tiresome franchises and re-makes that all need a shiny star, acting talent optional.

Did they specify before Easter of 2025? 😁

I find it so weird that he seems to have genuinely convinced himself that he is doing this for the greater good, so that others won't have to go through the same troubles. WHAT OTHERS? This has got to be the tiniest group of people, all of whom are hugely privileged. And he genuinely seems to have convinced himself that he is doing us all a favour forcing the gov to spend thousands of pounds defending the work of one no-mark committee that seems to have done a perfectly reasonable job anyway. Just own it, Harry, you're doing it for your own self. No one except you cares. It's not altruism if you're the only person who benefits. That's not... how it works.

I’m imagining Pippa from The Windsors bragging about Johnny’s wealth. He’s “not a millionaire - he’s a BILLIONAIRE!”

Id prefer to be in Pippa’s shoes. All the wealth and privilege, none of the responsibility. She gets to pick and choose (cow 🤣)

I wish someone would say that to him publicly. If he’s challenged even the tiniest bit he gets all steely and arrogant like Andrew, Anne, Charles .. etc. The plebs don’t matter.