I am glad Kate is feeling much better,however

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Watching the news about the horrendous rubbish problem in Birmingham,this was followed by Kates film clip rambling about Windermere saying we need to connect with nature and couldn’t help thinking it was inappropriate.I bet cancer sufferers in Birmingham would love to do this instead of holding down a job worrying about col doing chores that I bet she never does and have stinking rubbish with rats in the streets. I have no problem with her video but thought the timing was so off. They sometimes need to read the room.

I’m not brain washed. I’m the only on here not giving the same opinion as others on this matter.

And I did.

But you won’t let others express a different opinion either. And have been hostile when others challenge you.

The use of emojis to send love to a poster whom you are arguing with, is a demonstration of passive aggression.

Im

I hope Eugenie wears a ridiculous hat that blocks whoever sits behind her. Good night and God bless as my grandad would say 🥰

I think the public expectation that PW attends the Easter Sunday service is just down to the fact that he has attended for many years previously (apart from last year). I’d be surprised if the public expectation has anything to do with it being a job requirement for a role he doesn’t even hold yet. His father holds that role and will be in attendance so all is fine. It is at the end of the day a private gathering.

I have read that PW has spoken to KC and has been given the okay not to be there, which again would make sense as it’s a private occasion.

I think the media are trying to make this into something bigger than it needs to be - maybe Easter is traditionally a slow news period.

Just my two penneth worth.

According to?

Yes. You said you never called me a name. You did. You attached a religious label to me.

My interpretation of our conversation.

I agree.

I am more interested in whether Andrew will attend. Does public scandal and shame stop someone from worshipping at their local or family churcb? Or should he worship in private since he is now a pariah? I can see both points of view. I dislike the man, but if it’s a family church, I feel like he should be able to worship where he chooses.

That seems like a you problem, not a me problem.

Catherine's evolution reminds me of Michelle Obama's evolution.

Michelle was so very careful in Barack Obama's first term as President. She endured some outrageously cruel comments about the first family portrait (peal clutching about her sleeveless look and around her healthy eating initiative e.g. Rep Sensenbrenner said that she “lectures us on eating right while she has a large posterior herself.”

Sensenbrenner apologizes to Michelle Obama

In her husband's second term Michelle found a level of freedom, since her actions would not impact any potential re-election (She didn't foresee Trump wanting to rejig the US constitution for Presidential 3rd terms to be possible). She changed up the way she dressed, her hairstyle and her advocacy stepped up for military families and her childhood health campaigns.

I think there is a Catherine pre- and post-cancer.

Pre-cancer Catherine religiously toed the line. She barely let any personality slip through and was super-cautious earning the label "she never puts a foot wrong." Each event was delivered professionally, like clockwork, Easter, Trooping, Wimbledon, Ascot, Remembrance and Christmas, with classic timeless clothing interspersed with a tour or two, year-end galas and state dinner or two. A steady diet of engagement with a smiling Catherine was dutifully delivered time and time again.

And yet, all this was for naught as she was absolutely annihilated as she was fighting for her life with the most egregious vilification on social media, from traditional media and possibly worst of all by public figures who should have known better than to pile on, given their own struggles in the public glare.

IMHO, post-cancer Catherine seems 100% done being nice to a hostile media (traditional or social), which made a ton of money off her each time she attended an event. Her absence is her keenest weapon. You cannot compel her to appear in public beyond State events...and the public, as we can see from this discussion board is struggling her absence. The Crown got its heirs, and she is not yet Queen or Councilor of State. She literally has no constitutional requirements...none!

And if indeed Republicans carry the day, her husband walks away with a billion-dollar Duchy. Republicans may want to understand asset-based lending and in particular the importance of title...if you're going to challenge unbroken title since 1337 good luck having a* *£1,678.2 billion mortgage market as now almost all titles are now open for challenge. And good luck with the pound in that scenario!

And you call me for going around in circles 🤣

I said I didn’t understand why you were so bothered about why the Prince of Wales not attending a public Easter service unless you were a devout Protestant or Royalist (groups who have a legitimate reason for being upset about him not attending), when you said you were not, I did not label you so, just stated that I didn’t understand your point of view considering you were not one or the other. I recommend you reread the thread carefully.

I like your thought process, even if I don’t necessarily agree with it (just because they didn’t always spend Christmas with the Royal family). I do wish Catherine would say a big fuck you to the media though! And I like that she isn’t releasing her photos to them any more.

Fair enough. I think lots of posters on the RF will probably feel similar.

calling someone: obsessed, royalist, Devout Protestant, isn’t that same as stating a poster is using circular arguments.

I feel this is a very much us situation at the moment 🤣 (said with love)

Or calling them passive aggressive and accusing them of name calling?

I’ve explained the use of love emojis as being interpreted as passive aggression. It’s a common way of some people to argue.

And again I never accused (hate that word, like being a devout Protestant is shameful or something). I said I don’t understand your point of view unless you are a devout Protestant or a Royalist. As I have explained ad nauseum.

Some people. Not me. Don’t project your prejudices on me please.

@AtIusvue are you ok? , this is not like you at all !
I’m very concerned.

You need to read the initial posts.

I can’t keep going over the same points.

It’s past midnight now and at no point are we going to agree on anything. We’ve entered the twilight zone. There’s no chance of any positive outcome. Nothing good happens after 12.

Goodnight @PrettyFlyforaMaiTai

As stated before, if you feel like I have broken any rules (direct and personal attacks are included in these guidelines) please report. If you chose not to report, or do report and Mumsnet do not agree, it’s all a part of a healthy debate.

Good night and God bless 🥱😴

Jeff, im ok.

I never thought I’d be taken as a bad actor on an RF thread but I’ve tried my best to be civil. Even if it dragged on.