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Words · 29/03/2025 12:11

I've been reading the news section of their Sentebale website.

In the announcement from last December about the change of direction, we have many gems including this:

This comes off the back of a first-of-its-kind convening for Sentebale in the region this past October, of local and international thought leaders in the development space, designed to bring together actionable ideas to support the next generation, expanding the potential and possibility for what Sentebale could do on its own.

I wonder if Markle has been moonlighting as a copywriter? 😂

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 12:12

Yet some of them not only manage, they turn it into something positive. Look at Princess Anne - she was the ultimate spare? Has she spent her life moaning? No. She's focussed on her equestrian interests, and been a high achiever there. She has actively supported and promoted many charities including Horse Riding for the Disabled and Save the Children. Not centering herself.
It can be done.

IcedPurple · 29/03/2025 12:12

ColourlessGreenIdeasSleepFuriously · 29/03/2025 12:09

It goes to show how cruel the institution of royalty is. Making ordinary people take on roles they simply are not equipped to deal with, in full public view. No wonder their mental health is all shot to shit. Must be awful knowing your own kids are going to be thrown into the same meat grinder.

Edited

Nobody is 'made' to do anything by the royal 'institution'.

Harry could have stayed in the army or found another job. He actively chose to be a working royal. And it was probably the best thing for him because he had the entire machinery of the monarchy keeping things running smoothly behind the scenes. All he had to do was be chauffeur driven to an event in order to be fawned over.

Is he really doing better now, having found freedom from the 'institution'?

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 12:13

Harry is worse off. That's because he's chased celebrity and money and he doesn't care how. Royalty is about service. Harry is about self service.

Words · 29/03/2025 12:14

Happily their latest position statement is much better and sans word salad.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/03/2025 12:14

ColourlessGreenIdeasSleepFuriously · 29/03/2025 12:09

It goes to show how cruel the institution of royalty is. Making ordinary people take on roles they simply are not equipped to deal with, in full public view. No wonder their mental health is all shot to shit. Must be awful knowing your own kids are going to be thrown into the same meat grinder.

Edited

Very much agree with this

Admittedly they have the best of support/advice and plenty of people to do the background grunt work enabling them to shine, but if the principal's thoroughly inadequate there's only so much that can be done and sooner or later the painful truth will become obvious - as it is here

SirHoglet · 29/03/2025 12:17

I hope Sentebale is wise and have changed the passwords to all their online content and business comms. And be careful with the copyrights to all the media.

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 12:18

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/03/2025 12:14

Very much agree with this

Admittedly they have the best of support/advice and plenty of people to do the background grunt work enabling them to shine, but if the principal's thoroughly inadequate there's only so much that can be done and sooner or later the painful truth will become obvious - as it is here

Harry and Meghan had the most amazing opportunities. They were VPs of the Commonwealth Trust. They could have travelled the world, worked actively on projects, enabling young people in developing countries in particular. They could have had secure and private apartments at KP and a secure, private country home. They could have met world leaders, inspirational charity founders, successful business leaders etc.
They could have stepped up during the illness of KC and Kate. They had enormous goodwill and public support.
It wasn't enough, though.

Conundrumseverywhere · 29/03/2025 12:21

Vespanest · 29/03/2025 12:06

To show the difference of how a rich white male get treated to a dark skinned woman, Harry appears on behalf of Invictus and not only does he get a microphone so does his wife, Dr Chandauka gets invited onto a podium as a representative of Sentebale and gets ignored and shoved around and is then asked to defend those who treated her that way. In fairness to Harry I have seen him often manoeuvred but that's Meghan doing the guiding. They made her look like an intern that day, who was too stupid to not know her place.

It’s not because she is dark skinned. It’s because she’s a woman with less power. Look at how Harry behaved at Invictus (I think) when he invaded a woman’s space who was sitting next to him. I think she was the interpreter. Arm over the back of her chair, crowding her out. It tells you all you need to know.
Also the rude way he spoke to Rebecca English on their African tour.

Serenster · 29/03/2025 12:24

The FT article is very even-handed (and yes, it’s a good choice of a newspaper to speak with to position yourself as aiming to take the higher ground). The passages below are interesting as to me they suggest what’s really going on here.

Chandauka said she had refused what she described as a request by the royal’s team to defend his wife, Meghan, in the media after negative coverage of her. “I said no, we’re not setting a precedent by which we become an extension of the Sussex PR machine,” she said.
She argued that the volatile public sentiment around Prince Harry since his move to the US and media fallout after the release of a Netflix documentary in 2022 and his book in 2023 had an impact on the charity’s ability to diversify its donor pool and make senior hires. “When you start to interview people, they’re asking questions about, well, these mixed messages around the patron,” she said.
A person familiar with the trustees’ account of events said: “The charity has been almost entirely reliant on the positive view of Prince Harry to raise funds.”

Harry set up Sentabale as a charity close to his heart - named for his mother and aiming to work with African orphans. But, like it or not, once properly established a charity is a separate legal structure and its management have a legal obligation to act only in its best interests. It’s not Harry’s personal fiefdom or PR tool.

It would be an entirely improper request of any charity to use its reputational capital on behalf of an unconnected person, like the founder’s wife. And if the reputation of the patron is causing difficulties in attracting funding, the charity should properly be thinking about what is in the best interests of the charity, not the best interests of the patron. Charities do take this step all the time - obviously Prince Andrew is the clearest example of this, but they do so for far lesser issues also. Martin Clunes was ditched as patron by an African wildlife charity after he was seen on tv rising an elephant. Boris Johnson and Christine Hamilton both had charities cut ties with them to do their controversial public images.

If potential donors were wary of Harry’s polarising public image then that is something a responsible board should have carefully considered. I can well see that that would not have gone down well with Harry, and he would have rallied his support on the Board to try and oust the person raising the issue rather than consider what was best for the charity.

SirHoglet · 29/03/2025 12:28

Not keen on the image of Harry with the child, scrolling further down the partner with us page. I thought we had long moved on from that sort of white saviour visual representation, that sort of dynamic is at least 30 years out of date. They really need to change the image it suggest all the wrong things. Doesn't look great from a child safeguarding point of view either. Why should harry get to be tactile with a child that isn't his child. It's quite the strange all dominating embrace. Needs to get rid.

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Words · 29/03/2025 12:35

I agrée Princess Anne is amazing. As you say, the ultimate spare but she has just got on with it. Razor sharp intelligence, always totally on top of her brief. She would have sussed out Meghan immediately.

Whereas Harry, never the brightest bulb in the chandelier, traumatised by his mother's death always seems to have done best when living within an imposed structure. Army, RF, however much he railed against the latter.

His current way of life aimless and adrift and presumably cut off from most of his contemporaries, is the worst thing possible for his mental health.

I'm sure he has had endless therapy but this has simply served to entrench his perception of victimhood.

Someone yesterday I think, sorry I forget who, said she thought Harry was almost enacting revenge on his father. I agree. He has a lot of buried anger, as does his wife.

It's all positively Shakespearian.

SirHoglet · 29/03/2025 12:36

And he is photographed kissing a baby boy on the cheek in the article in the daily mail. That must be breaking lots of principles. Those visuals really do not look right, I wouldn't donate to a charity that represented itself in that white savour - rich boy's power way. I'd be very keen to support the charity in the way it's going now.

TenInchNails · 29/03/2025 12:41

His current way of life aimless and adrift and presumably cut off from most of his contemporaries, is the worst thing possible for his mental health.

It really is Edward VIII all over again. Poor old David - all that drama, and then the long drift of aimlessness.

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 12:42

Edward had a pointless life in the end, with his pugs and his golf. Always a few steps behind his wife..

Conundrumseverywhere · 29/03/2025 12:49

TenInchNails · 29/03/2025 12:41

His current way of life aimless and adrift and presumably cut off from most of his contemporaries, is the worst thing possible for his mental health.

It really is Edward VIII all over again. Poor old David - all that drama, and then the long drift of aimlessness.

It’s uncanny how similar the situations are.

Words · 29/03/2025 12:50

Yes. I saw some footage a while ago of the couple being interviewed in later life. He sort of shrunk into himself and seemed almost scared of Wallis.

Words · 29/03/2025 12:50

History is not linear. It goes in cycles.

Conundrumseverywhere · 29/03/2025 12:53

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 12:18

Harry and Meghan had the most amazing opportunities. They were VPs of the Commonwealth Trust. They could have travelled the world, worked actively on projects, enabling young people in developing countries in particular. They could have had secure and private apartments at KP and a secure, private country home. They could have met world leaders, inspirational charity founders, successful business leaders etc.
They could have stepped up during the illness of KC and Kate. They had enormous goodwill and public support.
It wasn't enough, though.

They don’t want to do any of those things though. That’s the crux of the matter. They only want to do things on their terms if they are cashing in for their own benefit.

Words · 29/03/2025 12:57

We need a new thread!

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 12:59

Conundrumseverywhere · 29/03/2025 12:53

They don’t want to do any of those things though. That’s the crux of the matter. They only want to do things on their terms if they are cashing in for their own benefit.

Edited

Yes. That was the problem. Service obviously isn't universal.

glitterturd · 29/03/2025 13:04

SirHoglet · 29/03/2025 12:36

And he is photographed kissing a baby boy on the cheek in the article in the daily mail. That must be breaking lots of principles. Those visuals really do not look right, I wouldn't donate to a charity that represented itself in that white savour - rich boy's power way. I'd be very keen to support the charity in the way it's going now.

I'm always surprised by their fans supporting this white prince look.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/03/2025 13:05

It would be an entirely improper request of any charity to use its reputational capital on behalf of an unconnected person, like the founder’s wife. And if the reputation of the patron is causing difficulties in attracting funding, the charity should properly be thinking about what is in the best interests of the charity, not the best interests of the patron

Beautifully put, @Serenster, and this is why I said I couldn't understand why Ms Chandauka would be dragged into Meghan's personal PR in the first place

And yes, @MayaKovskaya, the couple's opportunities were indeed many, but their choice was to leave and it was absolutely their choice to make.
Trouble is the consequences are theirs to handle too, except those seem less popular ...

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 13:06

glitterturd · 29/03/2025 13:04

I'm always surprised by their fans supporting this white prince look.

I think many of their fans are serious Royalists - he's a prince, so they support him.

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