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Conundrumseverywhere · 29/03/2025 10:50

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 10:47

Once Invictus games goes, thats his last real Royal link. He’s then just Meghan Sussex’s husband.

I’m sure that’s what Meghan wants. I really think she wants to ensure he’s totally isolated and dependent on her. He seems to have lost his mojo almost entirely. Perhaps he’s happy lounging around on his vast estate . The kids most probably are in nursery/school and have Nannies, so he will have a lot of time to contemplate his navel.

Words · 29/03/2025 10:59

Agreed JADS.

From the FT article they are not rowing back from the claims altogether, just not directly accusing the two patrons.

Agree FT an interesting choice. They go low, we go high maybe? Added perception of legitimacy? Also speaking directly to audience of potential future backers, professional decision makers, legal and financial supporters?

The Guardian would have been an additional option for slightly different audience. Doubtless there is more to come.

JessicaBlabbit · 29/03/2025 11:01

Yes agree FT or People to amplify your message - says a lot about your credibility.

Vespanest · 29/03/2025 11:02

Harry and Meghan since they left have had the problem of wanting the philanthropy without first guaranteeing the huge wealth. Hence the show up and do good, which doesn't work for a charity like Sentebale as they need hard cash. To have a charity based on Harry's networking which has diminished is futile. Invictus was clearly set up with a clear plan of funding but just as one of the original sports for injured soldiers evolved into the Paralympics there will be hopefully a time it's not needed. I cannot see the games lasting with the expansion of non war injuries and including other services will ask serious questions of a few western countries spending a fortune to host.

JohnnyRememberMe · 29/03/2025 11:03

LaPalmaLlama · 29/03/2025 10:09

Ouch. That's a gut punch, right there.

However, have to agree with pp that no-one is looking great right now. I don't really understand why she would be so invested in the success of this relatively small charity that she'd go to these lengths, which makes it seem as though she has a bit of an axe to grind (and I say this as someone who is definitely not Team Sussex).

I'm a Trustee of a tiny volunteer only charity. You might be surprised that trustees and other volunteers will pour their love and passion into something small. We raise about £30k a year and it's important to us.

JSMill · 29/03/2025 11:08

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 10:43

I also think he’s laying the groundwork for the end of Invictus.

Summer 2024 speech: 'We pray we don't need the Games for another 10 years, but thanks to you, the team and our future CEO, we will be ready.'

Feb 2025, Speaking at the Invictus Games Vancouver Whistler 2025, the Duke of Sussex said: "I wish that we could close this down because there wasn't a need for it, but as long as there's a need for it, we will keep it going.

I just think that it’s odd he’s using this type of language, he would never have said anything like that 10 years ago….and obviously he wouldn’t of wanted there to be a situation of injured personnel needing support …but he never said anything like wishing it wasn’t needed.

We all wish charities werent needed, but they are. I think funding will have become another major issue and it’s not sustainable. I think when the games end, they will narrate the story of they did what they set out to achieve, that there is hope after injury, mission completed.

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I’m assuming most of the veterans competing were injured in Afghanistan and Iraq. As times goes on, they will get older and maybe less able to compete in games or maybe have moved on for their lives. Of course they will need support in other areas of their lives. A well run charity should be try to adapt as needs change. But is Invictus well run?

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 11:13

JSMill · 29/03/2025 11:08

I’m assuming most of the veterans competing were injured in Afghanistan and Iraq. As times goes on, they will get older and maybe less able to compete in games or maybe have moved on for their lives. Of course they will need support in other areas of their lives. A well run charity should be try to adapt as needs change. But is Invictus well run?

Yeh, think that’s why they’ve opened it up to people with injuries not just ex military personnel. But then it’s changing the message.

Yes. There are many of the same faces year after year. I think thats why we only see Harry n Meg in the pics and not the competitors.

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BemusedAmerican · 29/03/2025 11:15

Dr. Sophie has been involved with Sentebale since 2008. She has also visited Lesotho in the past 6 years. She obviously invested.

People in the US have seen many questionable actions by Harry. He had the governor of California comment on Archewell 's charity paperwork! I can see where this would raise issues for donors.

BasiliskStare · 29/03/2025 11:28

IcedPurple · 29/03/2025 10:20

The Home Office case will be an appeal held in private. I'd be very surprised if Harry travels over.

Hopefully this ridiculous 'case' finally gets thrown out. So much time and taxpayer money has been wasted on it already.

@IcedPurple 👏. Amen to that.

I think time and again Harry either did not understand what stepping outside the WRF really meant or just thought no-one would really stand up to him.

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 11:29

BasiliskStare · 29/03/2025 11:28

@IcedPurple 👏. Amen to that.

I think time and again Harry either did not understand what stepping outside the WRF really meant or just thought no-one would really stand up to him.

All seems to be sinking in 5 years later. He’s a bit slow on the uptake.

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MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 11:31

BasiliskStare · 29/03/2025 11:28

@IcedPurple 👏. Amen to that.

I think time and again Harry either did not understand what stepping outside the WRF really meant or just thought no-one would really stand up to him.

Yet he disparages the men in grey who worked so hard for him.

Words · 29/03/2025 11:31

I agree with @LaPalmaLlama .

No one is saying Sophie Chandauka is not 'invested'. Obviously she is . But to take the decision to put a bomb underneath it all in this risky and spectacular way is quite something. Perhaps it is a matter of principle alone. Perhaps there is more going on.

By the way, and I realise this sounds both petty and unkind, but I really, really dislike people with hon doctorates using the title, whoever they are. People are entitled to, I suppose, but it's a bit naff and infra dig.

So I will just refer to her by name ( now I can actually spell it properly) 😬

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/03/2025 11:33

The fact that Harry wanted her and Sentebale to be a PR mouthpiece for Meghan is grim

TBH I fail to see why the Chair of an Africa-based charity would be expected to become a mouthpiece for Meghan at all, but if there's any truth in this it's plausible that Harry would be annoyed, now that she and the kids seem to be practically all he has

As a PP said, the whole thing's just a godawful mess all round

Vespanest · 29/03/2025 11:37

It's not a bomb underneath a charity if the charity can only survive if Harry can get rich men to play Polo, the same rich men who thought they were getting some cheap fame and fortune in a Netflix show that Harry couldn't be arsed to show up in. Wonder how many of them were pleased with the outcome, at least safe in the knowledge it was so panned hardly anyone watched it. Realistically the choice was let the donations sink or look for alternatives.

Thedom · 29/03/2025 11:37

IdaGlossop · 29/03/2025 10:48

The take-over of Invictus by Meghan has been plain for the world to see for the past three years. Perhaps this public outing of the tensions within Sentabale will embolden the Invictus trustees to make a move against H&M. After eight years, Harry still seems to be blind to any possibility that Meghan may be flawed. He is behaving like a silly little boy, asking for people to defend her when bad things are said about her, as if he were in the playground.

Exactly.
Dr. Chandauka publicly pointing out the pressure she received from Harry's team to act on behalf of Meghan's PR, sounds like Invictus may also have been pressured by their Patron to give Meghan center stage in an effort to 'elevate' her terrible public image. .

It just never made sense how Harry was sidelined in favour of Meghan at Invictus.

It also ties in with Harry's criticism of the RF not coming out all guns blazing to discount negative public opinion of Meghan. He has form for this, so it is very believable he would take revenge on Dr. Chandauka for refusing to support Meghan.

JSMill · 29/03/2025 11:42

@Thedomthat’s a really good point about H expecting the RF to publicly defend M. It makes me convinced what Sophie said about M is absolutely true.

IdaGlossop · 29/03/2025 11:47

JSMill · 29/03/2025 11:42

@Thedomthat’s a really good point about H expecting the RF to publicly defend M. It makes me convinced what Sophie said about M is absolutely true.

Presumably H's request to Sophie was made on a mistaken understanding about black women's solidarity. Sophie is not a member of the Sussex Squad.

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 11:48

IdaGlossop · 29/03/2025 11:47

Presumably H's request to Sophie was made on a mistaken understanding about black women's solidarity. Sophie is not a member of the Sussex Squad.

He's so foolish he doesn't understand that.

IdaGlossop · 29/03/2025 11:51

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 11:48

He's so foolish he doesn't understand that.

I am a ginger so I always support Harry (I really am) 😄

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/03/2025 11:59

Once Invictus games goes, thats his last real Royal link

I see what you're saying, @AtIusvue, but it's not as if the rest of the RF ever had much to do with Invictus; instead they (sensibly, IMO) left it very much as Harry's thing

It's true though about it having become the H&M Show. FWIW I was always one of those who hoped "this time" would be different, but I recognise that was silly and have given up on it now

glitterturd · 29/03/2025 12:00

Maybe now we are beginning to see the real reason why Harry has walked away from this - he didn't want that can of worms to be opened.

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 12:00

They've effectively spoiled Invictus. It's a shame. It was given to Harry with the best of intentions, to give him something positive to get engaged with. It's turned out to be quite something else.

Vespanest · 29/03/2025 12:06

To show the difference of how a rich white male get treated to a dark skinned woman, Harry appears on behalf of Invictus and not only does he get a microphone so does his wife, Dr Chandauka gets invited onto a podium as a representative of Sentebale and gets ignored and shoved around and is then asked to defend those who treated her that way. In fairness to Harry I have seen him often manoeuvred but that's Meghan doing the guiding. They made her look like an intern that day, who was too stupid to not know her place.

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 12:08

IdaGlossop · 29/03/2025 11:51

I am a ginger so I always support Harry (I really am) 😄

Gingers are great 😃! Harry is not a good representative 🙁

ColourlessGreenIdeasSleepFuriously · 29/03/2025 12:09

It goes to show how cruel the institution of royalty is. Making ordinary people take on roles they simply are not equipped to deal with, in full public view. No wonder their mental health is all shot to shit. Must be awful knowing your own kids are going to be thrown into the same meat grinder.

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