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Vespanest · 29/03/2025 07:39

I could imagine Harry is isolated but I cannot see him discussing this with whoever the sun claim as a source. Mainly because Harry cannot be wrong, in all Harry has ever done he always places a disclaimer as to who really is at fault, this has not changed. Within the last few weeks the most he could some up with on what he misses about the UK was countryside and answered the rest by what he loves about America. The idea that a Prince of a country's first response is not "the people" is pretty screwed even if it's not true.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 29/03/2025 07:51

BasiliskStare · 28/03/2025 20:14

@StartupRepair - Did she also say she kept a journal during her time in the RF or have I made that up / dreamt it?

She did, in The Cut, and I read it (and I think it was meant to be read) as a threat to the RF because she stated that she hadn't even 'scratched the surface' of all she'd suffered from the racist, evil RF, and that now, she could speak freely ie clearly promising that she would drop my 'truth bombs'.

As it transpired, The Cut article turned out to be a subtle yet pointed hatchet job on MM, and thus appears to have put her off following through on the promised truth bombs. Although she did manage to get the journalist fired, because, of course, feminism and female solidarity is, as Meghan constantly tells us, very important to her.

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 07:57

"The Cut" was weird. So much fantasy. The UK tabloids called her child the "N" word? No, they didn't. She's a good parent not raising her children in the UK because every school run there would be 50 paps? Utter nonsense.
Why on earth lie like that? Does she have no critical faculties?

GiveMeSpanakopita · 29/03/2025 07:58

Vespanest · 29/03/2025 07:39

I could imagine Harry is isolated but I cannot see him discussing this with whoever the sun claim as a source. Mainly because Harry cannot be wrong, in all Harry has ever done he always places a disclaimer as to who really is at fault, this has not changed. Within the last few weeks the most he could some up with on what he misses about the UK was countryside and answered the rest by what he loves about America. The idea that a Prince of a country's first response is not "the people" is pretty screwed even if it's not true.

The Sun is like the Mail, in that every line in every article is lawyered to within an inch of its life, these days. The standard they use is 'do we have enough of an evidence trail to defend this article in court if we had to'.

This part comes from a Palace source because that's what a journo means when they say 'The Sun understands...' - it comes from a source off the record which is lodged with the subject being written about:

The Sun understands he was not told about his father’s hospital admission because the Palace did not want to cause unnecessary alarm by contacting Harry 5,000 miles away.

There's not a lot of new news in this piece, it's mainly an overview of recent events. If I had to guess, I'd say 'the friend' is someone from Harry's old life in the UK that still keeps in contact with them.

The 'insider' is a different source. You don't get called an insider unless you actually are. It's normally code for someone who's a paid adviser in some capacity. Not necessarily in the Sussexes' employ - could be someone at Netflix or one of Harry's charities.

TenInchNails · 29/03/2025 08:05

The UK tabloids called her child the "N" word?

I assume this stuff is for the benefit of a US audience that know little about the UK.

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 08:06

TenInchNails · 29/03/2025 08:05

The UK tabloids called her child the "N" word?

I assume this stuff is for the benefit of a US audience that know little about the UK.

Exactly. It's such a wild claim, and so easily disproved, but some people will believe it.

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 08:13

Talking of the Cut, there’s a new article about why Blake Lively and Meghan are so disliked. It’s the usual, women should stop hating women. However, even making the connection between those two and writing an article about how divisive they are, firmly puts Meg into the Celeb category in the US. No one views her as a royal.

Also, I could have written the article and could have saved a lot of words.

Mean girl B-list actress, who lacks any self awareness, marries a more famous but extremely annoying man baby, that’s now given the actress the global platform to play the victim and hawk her wares.

There. Done

https://www.thecut.com/article/meghan-markle-blake-lively.html

Why Do These Women Inspire Such Rage?

Nothing riles the internet up more than Meghan Markle and Blake Lively.

https://www.thecut.com/article/meghan-markle-blake-lively.html

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Vespanest · 29/03/2025 08:18

@GiveMeSpanakopita but none of that attest the truth, Harry and his representatives have been sources many a time, he's been doing it this week and with sentebale. The papers as in the case with Harry and the Daily mail if they can prove an honest opinion defence that is all they need.

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 08:25

Your summary is accurate, @AtIusvue . It's as if Meghan is an innocent young woman who has no agency in her life, and has never done anything to warrant criticism.

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 08:27

Although my favourite claim from the Cut is her saying that when she married Harry, there was dancing on the streets of South Africa, like when Mandela was freed. 😂😂😂

JessicaBlabbit · 29/03/2025 08:29

Think PH is due back in UK for one of his court cases next week?

Conundrumseverywhere · 29/03/2025 08:35

JessicaBlabbit · 29/03/2025 08:29

Think PH is due back in UK for one of his court cases next week?

I thought all those court cases were over?

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 08:38

More info on the situation in the DM. Much like we said, the optics of polo matches were all off. Harry hasn’t bothered fundraising in other ways, which he did when he lived as a Royal in the UK. Also accusations about a salary.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14548083/toxic-feud-Sentebale-Harry-charity-chief-BARBARA-DAVIES-Dr-Sophie-Chandauka.html

‘allegations that Dr Chandauka alienated one of the charity's key sponsors, spent around £500,000 on external consultants and even demanded a salary for her voluntary role, were refuted and condemned by a spokesman for Sentebale this week who told me that 'like much of the information being shared it is untrue and seriously defamatory in nature. This is concerning to Dr Chandauka and to Sentebale as a whole'.
Dr Chandauka's family, the spokesman pointed out, was the third largest financial donor to the charity in 2024.

How on earth then – given that all those involved claim to be acting in Sentebale's best interests – did this extraordinary state of affairs come to pass? And who is to blame for a rift which now threatens to tear Prince Harry's beloved charity apart?
What is clear is that this almighty fracas is one which has been brewing ever since Dr Chandauka, whose grandmother was a housemaid in colonial Zimbabwe, took the reins at Sentebale in July 2023 after being on the board of trustees since 2008.
At the time, Prince Harry said her 'experience, passion for social change and entrepreneurial spirit' would be a 'tremendous benefit to Sentebale's next chapter'.
One of his friends told me this week that at first the 40-year-old royal liked and got on with the successful businesswoman and mother-of-four 'but not for long'.
She 'had her own way of doing things', said the friend, 'which given Harry had created a lot of it himself since the age of 18 wasn't easy'.
The cause of this cooling in relations was said by a former trustee to be the inherent culture clash within the charity, not least because of the 'colonial feel' of the polo matches organised to raise funds. With wealthy players prepared to pay around £75,000 apiece to play alongside the Duke of Sussex, the annual Sentebale Polo Cup was the charity's biggest annual fund-raiser, bringing in around £1.5 million every year.
The charity's latest accounts for the year ending August 2023 showed a total income of £3,406,000.
According to the former trustee: 'Dr Chandauka wanted to look at how things might be done differently. I understand the argument that there might be a more modern way to raise money, one that doesn't involve a bunch of white rich people on horses, but at the end of the day, Sentebale is a small charity and Harry's polo connections were what brought the money in, money which helped us do vital work with young people in Africa.'

Fundraising for Sentebale had already become challenging in wake of the Sussexes' decision to quit the Royal Family and set up home in California.
Previous high-profile gala appearances at London events, such as the couple's attendance at the West End musical Hamilton in August 2018 or Cirque du Soleil's Totem show at the Royal Albert Hall in January 2019, had brought thousands into the charity's coffers via proceeds donated from ticket sales.
In the US, however, the couple's star power was somewhat eclipsed by the sea of celebrities and Hollywood stars around them.
According to the former trustee who spoke to the Mail: 'Logistically it was harder to fundraise than in London and, if we're honest, Harry's popularity had waned somewhat because of everything that had happened.'

The decision to appoint Dr Chandauka in 2023, said the former trustee, was a 'logical' attempt to 'move the charity's centre of gravity from London to Africa and increase fundraising efforts across the US' and move away from a model which largely saw trustees asking the wealthy to put their hands in their pockets.
In April last year, the duke appeared at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Miami alongside Dr Chandauka, at a dinner and panel discussion entitled 'Potential is Waiting' as the organisation explored new 'partnering opportunities'.
This was followed, in October, by a high-profile visit by Harry to Lesotho and Johannesburg accompanied by Dr Chandauka as well as executives from potential donors including Google.
Several sources claimed this week that Sentebale spent hundreds of thousands of charity money on external consultants to maximise fundraising from donors but that 'the anticipated funding tied to that investment did not come to fruition'. The former trustee said: 'Normally, in these kind of situations, you make sure the cheque is signed by potential donors before they come on the trip.
'You don't offer some American bankers the chance to spend a couple of days driving around Lesotho with Harry, looking at the work the charity is doing, and then find out that you're not going to get the gift.'
This claim was refuted by the Sentebale spokesman who said that the charity had engaged 'expert consultants as necessary from time to time to help generate a very healthy pipeline of future opportunities from corporate and family office funding as a result of the Return to South Africa tour' and that discussions about potential donations were ongoing.

After their joint resignation, Prince Harry and Prince Seeiso also said they would be sharing concerns with the Charity Commission 'as to how this came about'.
Those concerns, the Mail was told this week, include a claim that Dr Chandauka 'alienated' one of Sentebale's key sponsors, ISPS Handa – a Japanese non-profit sports promotion organisation which meant that the high-profile annual Sentebale Polo Cup did not take place last year and was replaced instead by the Royal Salute Polo Challenge in Miami.
The spokesman for Sentebale denied the claim and said that a representative of ISPS Handa 'remained in touch with the organisation', met with their director of fundraising 'on many occasions', attended the Miami polo challenge and offered to sponsor an event in both the US and Australia last year 'that wasn't possible because of Prince Harry not being available'.
This week it was claimed that Dr Chandauka had sought 'a salary' – according to one source rumoured to be an amount of around £300,000 – for her unpaid role, although the Mail has been unable to verify this claim. Untrue, according to Sentebale's spokesman, who said such a figure was never discussed.
The spokesman said: 'In fact, Prince Harry and Mark Dyer offered compensation to Dr Chandauka due to the extraordinary volume of work she was doing for the organisation, particularly in the first half of the year.
'They asked Dr Chandauka to pull together a proposal to present to the board to compensate her. But in the end she preferred to continue without pay.'
The spokesman said there was 'substantial board documentation and correspondence' involving both Prince Harry and Mark Dyer to back this up.’

The real reason Prince Harry clashed with charity chief

Amid the upper-crust glamour of Florida's Grand Champions Polo Club, there were signs of tension at a match held last April to raise funds for Prince Harry's Sentebale charity.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14548083/toxic-feud-Sentebale-Harry-charity-chief-BARBARA-DAVIES-Dr-Sophie-Chandauka.html

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JessicaBlabbit · 29/03/2025 08:43

Conundrumseverywhere · 29/03/2025 08:35

I thought all those court cases were over?

Nope.

Home Office re his security is next week.

Daily Mail later in the year or early 2026.

Conundrumseverywhere · 29/03/2025 09:10

JessicaBlabbit · 29/03/2025 08:43

Nope.

Home Office re his security is next week.

Daily Mail later in the year or early 2026.

Will it never end?

PippistrelleBat · 29/03/2025 09:13

Are his lawyers the same for all his court cases? They certainly saw him coming.

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 09:15

Dr Chanduaka interview! wow!

https://www.ft.com/content/8fc9561d-c145-4542-a32a-1707573c012b

‘The origins of the dispute have been highly contested by both sides. Chandauka said she first felt tension between Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex, and herself in April 2024.
Chandauka said she had refused what she described as a request by the royal’s team to defend his wife, Meghan, in the media after negative coverage of her. “I said no, we’re not setting a precedent by which we become an extension of the Sussex PR machine,” she said.’

Prince Harry tried to ‘force a failure’ of charity he founded, claims chair

British royal says he had no option but to quit in solidarity with Sentebale trustees after a loss of confidence in Sophie Chandauka

https://www.ft.com/content/8fc9561d-c145-4542-a32a-1707573c012b

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JSMill · 29/03/2025 09:18

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 09:15

Dr Chanduaka interview! wow!

https://www.ft.com/content/8fc9561d-c145-4542-a32a-1707573c012b

‘The origins of the dispute have been highly contested by both sides. Chandauka said she first felt tension between Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex, and herself in April 2024.
Chandauka said she had refused what she described as a request by the royal’s team to defend his wife, Meghan, in the media after negative coverage of her. “I said no, we’re not setting a precedent by which we become an extension of the Sussex PR machine,” she said.’

The article is behind a paywall but it’s clear that Dr Chanduaka is a very strong woman who won’t be bullied.

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 09:18

So that must have been after the polo match right? The video of meghan directing her.

They are so embarrassing 😂

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MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 09:19

Wow! An extension of the Sussex PR machine?
What arrogance and entitlement the Sussexes have. Extraordinary.

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 09:19

JSMill · 29/03/2025 09:18

The article is behind a paywall but it’s clear that Dr Chanduaka is a very strong woman who won’t be bullied.

It’s fine for me. I haven’t got a subscription. Strange.

https://archive.ph/ORwOf

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JessicaBlabbit · 29/03/2025 09:25

wow.

“The number one risk for this organisation was the toxicity of its lead patron’s brand,”

JessicaBlabbit · 29/03/2025 09:30

Chandauka said she had refused what she described as a request by the royal’s team to defend his wife, Meghan, in the media after negative coverage of her. “I said no, we’re not setting a precedent by which we become an extension of the Sussex PR machine,” she said.’

I wonder if this is also ongoing at Invictus?

JSMill · 29/03/2025 09:35

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 09:19

It’s fine for me. I haven’t got a subscription. Strange.

https://archive.ph/ORwOf

Thanks! That link worked for me. I find it fascinating that the Sussexes tried to use the charity to get positive PR for M. The woman is right. The charity isn’t sustainable if it depends on having one person to be at fundraising events. It’s been around for twenty years. It should have moved on. Look at the Princes Trust. Charles would obviously be at fundraising events in the early days but now it attracts donors because it does good work.

ThePoshUns · 29/03/2025 09:40

The gloves are most definitely off aren’t they? It strikes me as quite a small charity, £3-4million isn’t a huge amount, and their workers need to be paid although I’m sure can do a whole lot of good if focussed on the area where need is greatest.

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