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Xenia · 29/03/2025 09:42

" Chandauka said she had refused what she described as a request by the royal’s team to defend his wife, Meghan, in the media after negative coverage of her. “I said no, we’re not setting a precedent by which we become an extension of the Sussex PR machine,” she said. "

The more I hear of Chandauka the more I like her.

However in general I think both sides would have done better had the dirty linen not been washed in public but perhaps that is a speciality of the Prince anyway - to publish everything, to say all. That is obviously another point of view - the oxygen of publicity, putting things in the light; the high court action should also achieve that if it is a desirable aim for a charity trying to raise funds.

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 09:44

Yeh, it never made the transition beyond Harry’s posh mates paying big bucks for a polo jolly.
That’s exactly why they are where they are. I think the Chair took the right course of action….obviously time will be needed to build new sponsorship relationships.

Also, seems like Harry wasn’t to go out of his way for Dr Chanduka and her vision, when he felt slighted that she didn’t get involved in Megs PR. I think he thought it would be easy to rid of her and the fundraising would go back to hooray henrys riding about on polo ponies for the children.

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MrsLeonFarrell · 29/03/2025 09:47

These things are never one person's fault, it's always a bad mix of people and visions and ideas for action. But having said that I agree with the PP that the worst thing that can happen in this sort of situation is getting the press involved. Of course with Harry's profile that was probably impossible to avoid but still it's not helpful.

IAmATorturedPoet · 29/03/2025 09:59

@AtIusvue thanks for the links this morning 😊

TenInchNails · 29/03/2025 10:02

If anyone is interested, this isn't the only southern African charity in the news for the wrong reasons.

Rachel Kolisi, ex-wife of SA rugby captain Siya Kolisi, has lodged a complaint with the CCMA after her dismissal.

https://www.capetownetc.com/news/rachel-takes-kolisi-foundation-to-ccma/

Background is that they were South Africa's darling couple until they divorced due to him cheating on her.

Siya and Rachel Kolisi

Rachel takes Kolisi Foundation to CCMA

Rachel Kolisi has filed a complaint with the CCMA over her dismissal from the Kolisi Foundation, alleging a toxic work environment:

https://www.capetownetc.com/news/rachel-takes-kolisi-foundation-to-ccma/

Vespanest · 29/03/2025 10:06

It's just so typical, Harry the slayer of press, wanting the women belittled on stage to tell the press that Meghan is wonderful rather than Meghan actually speaking up, just like the staffers they role out after bullying accusations and realistically where this all this shit began with them wanting the royal family to speak out after every negative headline.

LaPalmaLlama · 29/03/2025 10:09

JessicaBlabbit · 29/03/2025 09:25

wow.

“The number one risk for this organisation was the toxicity of its lead patron’s brand,”

Ouch. That's a gut punch, right there.

However, have to agree with pp that no-one is looking great right now. I don't really understand why she would be so invested in the success of this relatively small charity that she'd go to these lengths, which makes it seem as though she has a bit of an axe to grind (and I say this as someone who is definitely not Team Sussex).

SirHoglet · 29/03/2025 10:10

Is there a way to directly donate to the charity? I'd like to support Chandauka and her vision and mission. She seems great and I love the fact that she is fighting corruption.

TenInchNails · 29/03/2025 10:11

Is there a way to directly donate to the charity? I'd like to support Chandauka and her vision and mission. She seems great and I love the fact that she is fighting corruption.

https://sentebale.org/donation-form/

Donation Form - Sentebale

Donate Your support makes a difference. Help us turn potential into progress. Need help? Get in touch

https://sentebale.org/donation-form/

Words · 29/03/2025 10:11

Wow, the not getting involved in Sussex PR comment in the FT piece is very juicy ! That's the best thing I have read so far. She isn't going to hold back...

A very careful reading of the DM piece suggests to me a bust up over a potential salary for Chandauka . Yes, it says she continued in the role without payment but it is subtly worded.

The amounts raised seem to me to be relatively small. (Although I know nothing about charity fundraising.) Plus 500k on consultants with arguments about how much value they added. 500 local staff and others in London. Plus the suggestion at one point of a salaried position of several 100k for Chandauka. And I recall reading there was trouble further back over lucrative local salaries for managers.

They certainly haven't spent a lot on branding!

And now they have, maybe rightly, lost the polo money plus anything they would have received from USAID pre Trump.

Further PR battles and possible court cases to follow.

It all seems a frightful mess.

Vespanest · 29/03/2025 10:17

Maybe the question that needs to be asked was whether any consequences were attached to the request of defending Meghan.

SirHoglet · 29/03/2025 10:17

A person familiar with the trustees’ account of events said: “The charity has been almost entirely reliant on the positive view of Prince Harry to raise funds.

Oops, Harry keeps making himself the spare, even now in a charity he co founded. Self-fulfilling prophecy. The Sussexes could have achieved so much had they not aired their dirty linen in public. I bet Harry carries plenty of inherent misogyny and especially misogynoir in him. I love the fact that Chandauka is taking in this fight. If anyone knows how to donate to this charity, please do share.

JADS · 29/03/2025 10:18

There are obviously two sides to every story, but Chandauka is giving a really clear message.

The fact that Harry wanted her and Sentebale to be a PR mouthpiece for Meghan is grim. Describing him as toxic as well. I can see there being similar tensions at Invictus.

Prince Harry resigning is order to save Sentable is peak white saviourism. His original non leak is the thing that started this.

The fact that Harry apparatus donating 1.4 million from Spare and yet the charity earnings in 2023 were down by over 1 million is really interesting.

As I said this may be one side and exaggerated (I don't personally believe it is), but mud sticks and I see Harry's popularity sliding further.

IcedPurple · 29/03/2025 10:20

JessicaBlabbit · 29/03/2025 08:43

Nope.

Home Office re his security is next week.

Daily Mail later in the year or early 2026.

The Home Office case will be an appeal held in private. I'd be very surprised if Harry travels over.

Hopefully this ridiculous 'case' finally gets thrown out. So much time and taxpayer money has been wasted on it already.

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 10:26

He's already taken so much from the taxpayer. He's quite shameless.

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 10:28

I can’t see Invictus surviving either.

Like Sentebale, the charity’s direction has slightly changed in order for it to survive. However, I can’t see the US defence dept funding a US team. Look what they’ve done to VA.
We also now have major cuts coming to the UK, while we need to increase spending on defence. It’s not sustainable for rich counties to keep funding the games.

Also, naturally many participants entered over the years will now be looking to retire. The numbers aren’t there anymore. Which is why they widened the scope but you’re then not going to be able to get defence depts to cover the cost.

I can’t see Invictus being here in 10 years. I think Birmingham will be a natural end point. Job done, it served its purpose.

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MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 10:29

Invictus has just become a quasi royal tour for the Sussexes, and a fashion show for Meghan. It's all about them, and mostly her.

Words · 29/03/2025 10:31
  • Prince Harry resigning is order to save Sentable is peak white saviourism. His original non leak is the thing that started this.

To be fair this is an accusation from Chandouka, rather than a fact. From what we know about Harry, do we really expect he would go riding back on his white charger, sorry, polo pony, and sort it all out if she had exited stage left?

He is much more likely to flounce and stay flounced. Meanwhile, as Chandouka herself pointed out, playing the victim.

I note in the FT piece they are sensibly rowing back from the racism etc accusations attaching to either of the princely patrons.

Thedom · 29/03/2025 10:37

@AtIusvue thank you for the archived version, it was also behind a paywall for me too.

I think the FT article deserves a thread of its very own.

Interesting she spoke to the FT and didn't take it to People, USWeekly or the other PR tabloids the Sussex PR machine use.

Chandauka said she had filed a report to the Charity Commission that month. “I view the request for my resignation as being a direct response to my raising significant concerns regarding the Charity’s current governance, management and administration,” she wrote in the complaint, seen by the FT.

Ian Rawlinson "He told the FT there had been a concerted effort by certain trustees “to destabilise and remove Sophie” from her position."

It sounds to me like Harrys buddies and Seesio family on the board did exactly what Chandauka refused to do, and bowed down to pressure from Harry to get rid or Dr.Chandaka.

Wouldnt be surprised at all now if Meghans appearance with Gwyneth was G doing a favour for her ex hubby (friend of Harry) or Oprah.

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 10:43

I also think he’s laying the groundwork for the end of Invictus.

Summer 2024 speech: 'We pray we don't need the Games for another 10 years, but thanks to you, the team and our future CEO, we will be ready.'

Feb 2025, Speaking at the Invictus Games Vancouver Whistler 2025, the Duke of Sussex said: "I wish that we could close this down because there wasn't a need for it, but as long as there's a need for it, we will keep it going.

I just think that it’s odd he’s using this type of language, he would never have said anything like that 10 years ago….and obviously he wouldn’t of wanted there to be a situation of injured personnel needing support …but he never said anything like wishing it wasn’t needed.

We all wish charities werent needed, but they are. I think funding will have become another major issue and it’s not sustainable. I think when the games end, they will narrate the story of they did what they set out to achieve, that there is hope after injury, mission completed.

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Conundrumseverywhere · 29/03/2025 10:45

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 10:29

Invictus has just become a quasi royal tour for the Sussexes, and a fashion show for Meghan. It's all about them, and mostly her.

Agree

JADS · 29/03/2025 10:46

Words · 29/03/2025 10:31

  • Prince Harry resigning is order to save Sentable is peak white saviourism. His original non leak is the thing that started this.

To be fair this is an accusation from Chandouka, rather than a fact. From what we know about Harry, do we really expect he would go riding back on his white charger, sorry, polo pony, and sort it all out if she had exited stage left?

He is much more likely to flounce and stay flounced. Meanwhile, as Chandouka herself pointed out, playing the victim.

I note in the FT piece they are sensibly rowing back from the racism etc accusations attaching to either of the princely patrons.

You make a very valid point. Harry is ultimately lazy and tends to act like a petulant toddler. He would like just sulk and act the victim.

Do I think that he thinks he could be the big white saviour? Absolutely. Do I think he will be arsed to actually try? No especially when he can bask in victim status instead.

I didn't spot the row back on the racism in the FT article. I still think there is a racist and sexist element at play.

AtIusvue · 29/03/2025 10:47

Once Invictus games goes, thats his last real Royal link. He’s then just Meghan Sussex’s husband.

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IdaGlossop · 29/03/2025 10:48

MayaKovskaya · 29/03/2025 10:29

Invictus has just become a quasi royal tour for the Sussexes, and a fashion show for Meghan. It's all about them, and mostly her.

The take-over of Invictus by Meghan has been plain for the world to see for the past three years. Perhaps this public outing of the tensions within Sentabale will embolden the Invictus trustees to make a move against H&M. After eight years, Harry still seems to be blind to any possibility that Meghan may be flawed. He is behaving like a silly little boy, asking for people to defend her when bad things are said about her, as if he were in the playground.

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