A genuinely nice and friendly thread about Meghan

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Hi everyone! As suggested on another thread, I’m starting this to provide some balance to the MM / MS threads which have been perceived as bullying and not joyful.

So please feel free to join in and share something pleasant and joyful about your day or any comments about MM / MS as an antidote if the other threads have caused you upset. Please be nice!

I’ll begin by saying that writing notes by hand is a lovely thing to do, and conveys sincerity beyond any effusive email or text message. And nice handwriting is a bonus! Hand cramp is a problem of the digital age.

Also, I’ve watched two episodes of the series now, and I love the garden plants in California. Waiting for the spring to bloom here!

Yes, I won’t stop calling out bullying of Meghan and others on here. It’s the right thing to do.

I feel a large part of people’s opinions of them have been influenced by how they have behaved publicly - it is likely that any subsequent behaviour / project / outcomes will be measured with a different yardstick compared with a content creator whose personal history is hidden (or perfect, just for argument’s sake).

A content creator with a pristine personal history will likely be afforded more leeway if they had generated the same projects and outcomes, because there is likely no pre-judgement. Although if they produced strange looking waffles and wrote notes to critics, they probably will be criticized too - based on the quality of what they’ve created.

There is a huge volume of opinions on M&H because they are widely known, they’ve made their recent fame through interviews and books, and also because this is a Royal family forum. I’m not sure a large number of critical comments (if justifiably critical) constitutes bullying simply because there are so many comments: I believe a single comment with the intent to bully is worse than a whole thread full of fact-based criticisms.

@Lifestooshort71 i agree, the bounce back is impressive! I too, would love a homes and interiors show. Ideally a humorous one rather than an instructional 😬

My joyful news today is that I transferred some cheesy wotsits from one bag to another, then I got a sticky label and wrote on it 'wotsits' and attached the label to the bag with the wotsits in!! Very satisfying!!!

Tonight I plan on trying Vanessa's poh noodelles! Can't wait!!

And tomorrow I'm going to dance in the garden, picking flowers and sprinkling daisy petals on my toast and marmalade!!!

I'm not particularly well versed in what the allegations were but I don't trust the guy who made them one little bit. He worked for William and Kate FFS. Of course he would have an agenda to undermine her. From what I can see there hasn't been any real evidence provided and also read something dodgy about him ref the Thomas Markle incident.

My thoughts entirely! 👍👍

The frequency and level of criticism seems completely excessive now and appears to have a strategic element to it imho.

I bet the RF, especially Andrew, are cock-a-hoop at so much of the attention being directed away from them.

Anyway, good for her for carrying on. It can’t be easy in the face of so much negativity. I admire her for not giving up!

I've really enjoyed the postive effect she's had especially in my demographic - everywhere on my socials I have seen people experimenting with the one pot pasta, demonstrating their flower arranging and table scapes, showing off their Le Creuset collections, dehydrating citrus and making quickles (I made the strawberry ones recently). It was a great show and she definitley grew into it as the series went on. Look forward to the next run of 8.

There is a theory in psychological which explains that in our lives we develop reciprocal roles, usually learnt in childhood from our relationship with our parents. So for example, I may have learnt the role 'criticised' in response to someone criticising me.

These roles are reinforced over time and strengthen so we often unconsciously make them play out in relationships.

The tricky thing is that our brains don't learn we don't have to be one state or the other (eg. We don't have to be criticised or critical, we can be somewhere in the middle), so when we don't want to be one role, we are compelled to play out the other role (so eg. Unconsciously I don't want to be criticised so end up criticising).

Meghan definitely seems to have developed the 'bullying to bullied' role and it's no surprise she is feeling bullied now, because that's inevitable when you have developed a strong bullying role. She will always be either bully or bullied unless she seeka therapy to change that (imo).

It's also no wonder she has developed other roles such as perhaps ones relating to being either special or insignificant, loved and adored or hated and definitely something around inauthenticity and authenticity.

Where the public are divided on Meghan reflects, imo, her own internal struggles, distorted (and black and white) cognitions, and the roles she has learnt since childhood.

I am curious to know where she learnt these roles and experienced bullying and feelings of being either loved or hated and feelings of being special or insignificant.

But definitely the publics opinion of her is reflective of what she projects which is bron from her own internal world (imo)

Oh and I forgot, something around perpetrator to victim is definitely a role she seems to have developed and it would be interesting to know where that came from. Perhaps she experienced being a victim of something in childhood ..

I guess whichever end side of the roles people identify with when they think about Meghan (victim, bullied, etc...vs perpetrator, bully etc..) might depend on their own history ...

@SoExhaustedTonight where is your evidence that she is "black and white thinking". Are you honestly denying that she has been bullied by the media and public? You're doing an awful lot of armchair diagnosis there for someone who has never even met the woman.

I think that's a pretty weird thing to say when you look at some of the awful stuff that's been said about her, just on these boards alone it is thread after thread of pure vitriol, most of it based on speculation and gossip taken from awful media rags who sell newspapers by peddling crap about people.

I thought this was a positive thread

Sorry that was long! Had a lecturer once that was very into these reciprocal roles and although I may not have got it all quite right (sorry lecturer!) I think it certainly applies to Meghan and helps explain why the public might be divided over her ....

Great thread, I hope she reads it and gets a boost! The world is full of pointless bullies, and I hate it.

She is beautiful, I didn't realise just how stunning she is before watching her be animated and excited in different situations.

I personally think her life looks amazing and she sent a real strong message by moving away from the foul racism and familial disrespect she encountered in the UK. What a lesson to teach her kids, she could have had all the "bells and whistles" but it's not worth a damn if she wasn't being protected and loved. I like her principles there.

She does seem fun and energetic, too. I'd love a friend like her, thoughtful and interested in making people feel comfortable within their own interests.
I will be watching series 2! I baked the doughnuts alongside watching her and it made it more fun.

Well I just think it is what she projects out.

She is the one creating Instagram posts, netflix series etc.. her personality is on show by her own choice. What people see is what is projected out. Some see a bullied person, some see the bully. Some see a victim, some see the opposite. Personally I think she's both bully and bullied, and victim and perpetrator. Makes most sense from psychological perspective.

Ultimately it's Meghan people are looking at when she shows herself. If she wants to change the narrative she needs to change what she's projecting out. Stop trying to show authenticity and just be authentic.

Yes I enjoyed it too!

@SoExhaustedTonight I assume you've met her, know her well and have evidence of her being a bully? Otherwise you're just chatting shit like all the other swivel eyed fanatics.

Well where does people's impressions of her being a bully and bullying others come from? People are clearly divided and all this stems from Meghan herself. It's from her....

I don't know what a shrivel eyed fanatic is! But I'm offering a perspective which is not saying "I hate Meghan, she's a bully blah blah" and is not saying "oh I love Meghan she's so wonderful blah blah blah". Maybe she can be both good and bad, bully and bullied, victim and perpetrator.... She definitely projects these roles. It's interesting that not many people see her as neither bully nor bullied ....

It comes from the press which led a hate campaign against her. I've never seen any proof but you obviously have.

I was going to say this but you got there first and said it better than I would have.

The entire RF schtick is acting, really, if you stop and think about it.

There us a theory...

Well if it's theory it's not proven so 🤷 just another person trying to label a person without actually knowing them or all the facts.

It's not the press that's calling out MM's appaling behaviour - its her very own staff (including a current senior colleague) who have reported experiencing or witnessing the distressing impact this has had on them personally.

Some victims have been reported to have been hounded from their jobs whilst others have needed to seek professional help for the emotional impact of MM's behaviour.

Four separate, independent investigations by credible publications (Vanity Fair, The Hollywood Reporter, The Times, Courtiers) have collated consistent testimonies from numerous victims and witnesses over many years.

These reports would have undergone rigorous legal tests before publication to avoid libel claims. Its telling that the characteristically highly litigious focus of these reports has not taken legal action to challange the reports in order to uphold their reputation.

I have picked up some new things from her show. I have never heard of one pot pasta before but what a good idea so I'll be trying it out.

I think it's nice to see her trying different things and making mistakes, after all noone is perfect and its how we all learn by making mistakes. In a world of perfect instagrams and so on which only make people feel bad, guilty or pressured they aren't like that.

Also she wears linen, of course linen creases! Never understood those comments that she doesn't iron her clothes...like duh linen will always crease when you sit down.

I like the fact they both wanted to earn their own money but wanted to continue royal duties when required. What a shame it couldn't have been worked out.

@SoExhaustedTonight I'd honestly suggest that the projection comes in the form of posts like yours! The stuff you decided to diagnose her with is pure speculation and fantasy, and dare I say it, projection. Strange that you can accuse MM of it but you can't see it in your own post, it's dripping in it!

I’ve watched a few episodes of her series and will hopefully finish it this weekend. I’m quite enjoying it. There is so much bad in the world and sometimes a series like that is just what you need as it’s just nice and positive and pure escapism. I loved Suits too. I hadn’t thought of it in a while but I might watch it again. Meghan was really good in it, it’s a shame she stopped acting.

I don’t really follow her but I’m aware of there being a lot of hatred towards her which seems to all have been whipped up by our media. I’ve worked in PR and media and it’s a mucky world that can build people up and knock them down just as easily. I wouldn’t believe half of what we hear and I feel sorry for her and Harry.

It’s a shame they didn’t feel they could stay here as they could have done great things for the Royals. She certainly would have injected some glamour and beauty too and might have got younger people who are disillusioned with the Royals on board with them.

Hopefully they’re happy now in the US with their children and people will stop tearing them apart. I think they try to do good in the world and we need more of that.

Buckingham Palace launched an internal review into the bullying claims, but the findings were never made public. Meghan has always denied them and as far as I know, there are no bullying claims from Suits or other jobs before she married.