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Markle the Material girl

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Chuchoter · 20/03/2025 09:48

Markle's logo is similar to the logo on the back of the crew jackets for Madonna's Blond Ambition tour.

Is there anything original about this woman?

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jeffgoldblum · 23/03/2025 11:28

Thedom · 23/03/2025 11:17

Yep, and it's not so long ago either, remember people being slated for suggesting they would do a reality show, which is exactly what they did.

So i don't doubt there is some truth to the rumours of Harry doing a tell all about his dead mother.

Indeed @Thedom, unfortunately due to previous behaviour, it seems exactly the sort of thing Harry would do!
I wouldn’t have believed any of these thing’s probable at the beginning but here we are , sadly when it comes to cold hard cash it seems no depths are to deep for Harry to plumb!

Mylovelygreendress · 23/03/2025 11:51

jeffgoldblum · 23/03/2025 11:28

Indeed @Thedom, unfortunately due to previous behaviour, it seems exactly the sort of thing Harry would do!
I wouldn’t have believed any of these thing’s probable at the beginning but here we are , sadly when it comes to cold hard cash it seems no depths are to deep for Harry to plumb!

Someone will be along soon to chide us by saying that Harry needs to earn money because Pa cut him off financially .
The only thing he has is Royal gossip .

jeffgoldblum · 23/03/2025 12:04

Mylovelygreendress · 23/03/2025 11:51

Someone will be along soon to chide us by saying that Harry needs to earn money because Pa cut him off financially .
The only thing he has is Royal gossip .

Yes probably!
but that excuse doesn’t fly anymore, they are rich , they aren’t scrabbling to pay their bills by fishing down the back of a sofa, and frankly they quit their “job” as I tried valiantly to explain on another thread .
you don’t get to quit your job , then still expect to be paid and receive the benefits of said job!

the fact that Harry as a 40 year old man decided to moan about being cut off by his father, when he is infact rich in his own right , on global tv should be a source of shame and embarrassment.

he did not need to sell his family’s private lives and spin lies and filth to make money , he already has more than most people will ever have , and anyone who defends this is obviously just as morally bankrupt as Harry!

glitterturd · 23/03/2025 12:10

Serenster · 23/03/2025 11:04

I think her legacy in terms of statues or memorials has been quite poor and let’s say I think the current main players in the RF have done quite a bit to either erase her from memory, or besmirch her reputation.
So it would be refreshing to see a documentary made about her from the perspective of someone who wasn’t trying to do either of those things.

I disagree with this - perhaps not surprising! - but I thought it worth listing the memorials to Diana in various forms since her death that the Royal Family has sanctioned.

The very visible ones, all in Hyde Park/Kensington Palace Gardens which are Royal Parks and who therefore needed Palace consent for their on plans:

Diana Memorial Fountain (the first memorial and opened by QEII with Charles, William and Harry also there)
Diana Memorial Playground
Diana Memorial Walk
Diana Memorial Garden
Diana Memorial Statue

In Kensington Palace, Diana’s former home, a special wallpaper was commissioned to be used in the public areas, featuring pictures from Diana’s life. The annual exhibitions there have almost always featured Diana in some way or another: “Diana: her fashion story” was featured for many years, they have also had “Diana: glimpses of a modern princess”, and they have exhibited her wedding dress before and they generally items from her clothing collection on display.

Then there’s the more subtle: Kate has been lent several pieces of jewellery that were very associated with her late mother in law, most obviously the Cambridge Lover’s Knot tiara and Queen Mary’s emerald choker. Harry and William spoke to the BBC for their documentary to mark Diana’s death.

I’m not sure what else you are looking for in terms of royal family-supported memorials? Because I think the above demonstrates that the current “main layers” in the Royal family were very sensitive to the importance of respecting her memory and the public’s interest in her.

I've got a photo of that from my visit .

Markle the Material girl
glitterturd · 23/03/2025 12:11

Wonder which baby ?

Serenster · 23/03/2025 12:20

glitterturd · 23/03/2025 12:11

Wonder which baby ?

It was William.

Markle the Material girl
PoppysAunt · 23/03/2025 12:22

Mylovelygreendress · 23/03/2025 11:51

Someone will be along soon to chide us by saying that Harry needs to earn money because Pa cut him off financially .
The only thing he has is Royal gossip .

The problem is, he's running out of that, and much of it is discredited. He's just going to have to rely on his wife doing the domestic shows.

BasiliskStare · 23/03/2025 12:23

I don't know how long a Diana documentary would be in the making , but if I were Netflix thinking abut doing this I would be now thinking long and hard about what Harry could possibly say that hasn't been said since the 20th. It may be that Diana is still a draw enough NF think they will get the viewing figures. I don't think it's beyond NF to propose it , certainly when the current contract comes to an end so I wonder then how long H would have to decide. Let's see. At the moment it appears to be "a (not named) senior Hollywood source. " suggesting it. I do think it would be pretty low of H - but studying the form.... 😂 Personally I hope he doesn't & this is idle speculation but not my choice.

This short article is from the time of the 20th anniversary - but quite amusing
www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jul/30/princess-diana-anniversary-documentary-uk-us-itv-bbc

PoppysAunt · 23/03/2025 12:23

jeffgoldblum · 23/03/2025 12:04

Yes probably!
but that excuse doesn’t fly anymore, they are rich , they aren’t scrabbling to pay their bills by fishing down the back of a sofa, and frankly they quit their “job” as I tried valiantly to explain on another thread .
you don’t get to quit your job , then still expect to be paid and receive the benefits of said job!

the fact that Harry as a 40 year old man decided to moan about being cut off by his father, when he is infact rich in his own right , on global tv should be a source of shame and embarrassment.

he did not need to sell his family’s private lives and spin lies and filth to make money , he already has more than most people will ever have , and anyone who defends this is obviously just as morally bankrupt as Harry!

This, x 💯

Mylovelygreendress · 23/03/2025 12:54

PoppysAunt · 23/03/2025 12:22

The problem is, he's running out of that, and much of it is discredited. He's just going to have to rely on his wife doing the domestic shows.

Are there any products yet ?

My2cents1975 · 23/03/2025 13:01

I suspect that H sold his living family to get the original "$100M" Netflix contract (behind the scenes footage of real royals!) and as a result, his family cut him off.

Now, H will join a crowded media landscape (Paul Burrell, James Hewitt et al) in selling his dead mother for cold hard cash, in a desperate bid to renew his Netflix contract.

H either has no clue or does not care about the reputational and generational price he will pay. D's parentification of W, her affairs, her media collusion...these will all bubble up as social media seeks to cash in. W will continue to ghost H and consequently, A&L will never meet their cousins as any interaction would potentially be selectively reframed and/or monetized by H.

TheAutumnCrow · 23/03/2025 13:10

I suppose if H&M make a TV show on Diana, and call it Diana [with carefully planned subtitle], then they position themselves in search algorithms.

How about Diana: A Princess of Wales for the Ages? Executive produced and with voiceovers by H&M.

Google 'Diana', get H&M. Google 'Princess of Wales', get H&M.

Delphinaa · 23/03/2025 13:17

My2cents1975 · 23/03/2025 13:01

I suspect that H sold his living family to get the original "$100M" Netflix contract (behind the scenes footage of real royals!) and as a result, his family cut him off.

Now, H will join a crowded media landscape (Paul Burrell, James Hewitt et al) in selling his dead mother for cold hard cash, in a desperate bid to renew his Netflix contract.

H either has no clue or does not care about the reputational and generational price he will pay. D's parentification of W, her affairs, her media collusion...these will all bubble up as social media seeks to cash in. W will continue to ghost H and consequently, A&L will never meet their cousins as any interaction would potentially be selectively reframed and/or monetized by H.

I wonderif he 'owes' this to the current NF contract. May have been a clause about success rates etc and seems that many projects never got of the ground and those that did except the docuseries were poorly performing.

This could be done now ahead of end of contract as there wont be any new info to add before 2027.

I wonder if he will look at her love life - at least 6 affairs - the first before Harry was 2 years old.

jeffgoldblum · 23/03/2025 13:17

TheAutumnCrow · 23/03/2025 13:10

I suppose if H&M make a TV show on Diana, and call it Diana [with carefully planned subtitle], then they position themselves in search algorithms.

How about Diana: A Princess of Wales for the Ages? Executive produced and with voiceovers by H&M.

Google 'Diana', get H&M. Google 'Princess of Wales', get H&M.

For once @TheAutumnCrow, this is no fault of Meghan, this is purely Harry , it was clearly floated as a Harry only deal and Meghans pr previously floated a deal with Netflix for more of her lifestyle programmes and it specifically said that Harry wasnt included in that.

Delphinaa · 23/03/2025 13:46

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 22/03/2025 18:45

What I love about this board is the intelligent, nuanced posts - there are so many posters here whose style of posting I really respect.

What I don't love is the holier-than-thou posting, who only post to berate other posters not to express a genuine opinion.

There are far too many out there who don't know what "bullying" actually is. It certainly is not bullying to discuss the behaviour of people who put themselves out there in the public eye repeatedly who rely on not being irrelevant. All publicity is good publicity!!

MM is a brand with consumer products. We as consumers have every right to review such brands and products positive or negative - to discuss if they live up to their promise and are consistent with their stated brand values. If there is any discrepancy or disappointment consumers have ever right to point this out. If it surpasses or meets expectations then its great to communicate that as well. But its not OK to tell others that their personal experience and consumer review of a consumer brand or product is bullying in an attempt to silence differing opinions.

If an indiviual or organisation publicly states that they exist to 'uplift and unite' and 'show up and do good' but in reality, behind closed doors, they have belittled and done harm repeatedly according to staff testimonies then this needs a light shone on it.

BasiliskStare · 23/03/2025 13:49

@jeffgoldblum

I hope I'm allowed to post this. it's credited - someone let me know if not & I'll report it - Anyway

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Prince Harry

An image tagged prince harry,royal family,meghan markle,entitlement

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TheAutumnCrow · 23/03/2025 13:54

jeffgoldblum · 23/03/2025 13:17

For once @TheAutumnCrow, this is no fault of Meghan, this is purely Harry , it was clearly floated as a Harry only deal and Meghans pr previously floated a deal with Netflix for more of her lifestyle programmes and it specifically said that Harry wasnt included in that.

Fair enough, but I had thought that Polo was to be solely H's, and M was credited as co-executive producer of that and appeared briefly in it. Similarly H appeared at the end of With Love, Meghan. M also appeared in Heart of Invictus and was an exec producer of Live to Lead.

I think it's interesting how they still maintain these residual associations with, and credits for, each other's work.

If that's been their strategy to date, and if there really are discussions about a Diana TV show ( a very big if!), I think I'll need a bit of persuading that one half of the partnership is stepping back from a potential ratings 'success' at this point.

But obviously I could be very wrong.

PoppysAunt · 23/03/2025 13:55

@Delphinaa very good points. I don't understand why some people think that Meghan should be above criticism? Anyone else with a talent free Trad Wife tv show would be criticised. Everyone else who cashes in on connections and makes money because of who they're married to, would be criticised. Why not her?

My2cents1975 · 23/03/2025 13:56

Delphinaa · 23/03/2025 13:17

I wonderif he 'owes' this to the current NF contract. May have been a clause about success rates etc and seems that many projects never got of the ground and those that did except the docuseries were poorly performing.

This could be done now ahead of end of contract as there wont be any new info to add before 2027.

I wonder if he will look at her love life - at least 6 affairs - the first before Harry was 2 years old.

It is very possible that H "owes" this to Netflix. In which case, how much control will he have over the finished product? Netflix wants its return on investment and does not give 2 cents about H's familial relationships.

Even if H chooses to ignore his mother's love life, by dragging her corpse to center stage, H enables others to address D's love life.

The musical Diana with the awful "Here comes James Hewitt" song would not have been possible a decade ago as the producers would be wary of the backlash. With the degradation of D's reputation, the saucy lyrics in this musical will be tame versus what X/Tiktok and other social media creatives will come up with for clicks and likes.

PoppysAunt · 23/03/2025 13:58

Delphinaa · 23/03/2025 13:17

I wonderif he 'owes' this to the current NF contract. May have been a clause about success rates etc and seems that many projects never got of the ground and those that did except the docuseries were poorly performing.

This could be done now ahead of end of contract as there wont be any new info to add before 2027.

I wonder if he will look at her love life - at least 6 affairs - the first before Harry was 2 years old.

Or the fact that he was at boarding school all term and then at Sandringham and Balmoral, with Diana only visiting occasionally. How many days did she see them between them breaking up that July until her death?
All that time on the Jonikal with Dodi.
There was a lot of criticism of her at the time.

jeffgoldblum · 23/03/2025 13:58

BasiliskStare · 23/03/2025 13:49

@jeffgoldblum

I hope I'm allowed to post this. it's credited - someone let me know if not & I'll report it - Anyway

https://imgflip.com/i/52cp72

That hysterical @BasiliskStare🤣🤣🤣
but sadly pretty much it in a nutshell!

PoppysAunt · 23/03/2025 13:59

jeffgoldblum · 23/03/2025 13:58

That hysterical @BasiliskStare🤣🤣🤣
but sadly pretty much it in a nutshell!

So true! 😂

PoppysAunt · 23/03/2025 14:01

When I left my last job, they not only took my laptop, but also my keys and lanyard! What's worse, they stopped paying me, and I could no longer get a staff discount. It's inhumane.

PoppysAunt · 23/03/2025 14:01

Also - I don't have a Bank of Pa 😭

jeffgoldblum · 23/03/2025 14:02

TheAutumnCrow · 23/03/2025 13:54

Fair enough, but I had thought that Polo was to be solely H's, and M was credited as co-executive producer of that and appeared briefly in it. Similarly H appeared at the end of With Love, Meghan. M also appeared in Heart of Invictus and was an exec producer of Live to Lead.

I think it's interesting how they still maintain these residual associations with, and credits for, each other's work.

If that's been their strategy to date, and if there really are discussions about a Diana TV show ( a very big if!), I think I'll need a bit of persuading that one half of the partnership is stepping back from a potential ratings 'success' at this point.

But obviously I could be very wrong.

Easy to be confused @TheAutumnCrow, what with all the shenanigans!
yes previously they were both credited, this is why I noticed the particular details first in Meghans announcement with Netflix that took pains to state the offer was for Meghan not Harry .
then that article ( whether true or not) that the Diana documentary would be a Harry only deal.