As ever season two: fluffy eggs (with sparkling water) on faces!

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

Despite the ‘almighty’ British media, the rightwing US media and the internet brigade attempting to outdo each other with their crushing, supposedly annihilating reviews of Meghan’s As ever show, not only has it spent the past days in Netflix’s top 10 in more than 40 countries (including being Nr 5 in the Meg-lovin’ UK), Netflix have renewed the show for a 2nd season!

And of course, Netflix are also actively supporting the launch and commercialisation of Meghan’s As ever product range.

So, some folks have plenty of (hopefully fluffy - add sparkling water!) egg on their faces right now, and none of them are Meghan. She’s delivered the perfect put-down to her detractors with her “Lettuce romaine calm” pun, playfully announcing her Season 2 on her Instagram…. and adding a bum wiggle which to me said “we’ve obviously known for months that there’ll be a season 2, but y’all didn’t, so we’ve let you play with your silly headlines and review-bombing about this being ‘the end of the road’ and we ‘should kiss goodbye to Netflix’ BS, before making you all look like the obsessive fools you are by announcing season 2. Back-off and just chill, folks!”

Too funny! So far in this little PR war, it’s Meghan 2, detractors 0. Basically, the general public don’t GAF about the screeching online: if the show’s a good watch they’ll watch it, and they evidently are… kinda like… a certain biography, that other Sussex review-bombed ‘abject failure’ that still went on to become a Nr1 bestseller in the UK and US…

So, where did the gormless twopenny British journalists and their equally misguided US counterparts go wrong (again)? They were so eager to wield the knife into Meghan (a soooo much easier and risk-free target than Elon Musk, Donald Trump or even Andrew Tate, whom they’re evidently too chicken sh*t to go after with a tenth of the vitriol they enjoy hurling at Meghan), that they forgot to read the not so small print.

That small print includes the words “Netflix” and “Sony Pictures Television”, producers of As ever.

Now, who wields more power and influence over US viewers and consumers, Marina Hyde and her fellow sour-grapes, or Netflix and Sony Pictures combined (not to mention People magazine, Drew Barrymore, etc)?

Hmm… tough one.

So next time spineless journos want to pile-in on a mixed heritage woman for the heinous crime of launching a feel-good lifestyle business, maybe they could read the small print about who’s backing her and turn their Trump and Musk a*s-licking tongues in their mouths a few times before spouting off, lest they end up being the ones looking utterly ridiculous?

If you feel the British and right wing media have been spineless in their continued attacks on Meghan Sussex, discuss!

Meanwhile I need to find me one of ‘em ‘Lettuce romaine calm” baseball caps. Etsy sellers, get to work!

Someone on MN put it brilliantly. They said they'd met Holocaust survivors with less of a victim mentality and who moaned hardly at all.

Both H & M are super-privileged idiots and why anyone falls for the victim narrative, I will never understand. They both think they should be acknowledged as Number One in life and anyone who stands in their way has their character assassinated.

They are both the essence of mediocrity, and that's the kindest thing I can find to say about them!

She does seem to contradict herself a lot. When it suited her narrative she said that her mom wasn’t around for a chunk of her childhood and her dad was a great dad. Now, because of optics, she’s a latchkey kid who was dirt poor and grew up on Sizzler salad bars. Except actually her mom was around and cooked a lot of soul food.

She is a great cook, now wait she and Harry couldn’t work out how to roast a chicken. No, actually she’s a domestic goddess. The personality changes are giving everyone whiplash. And this is why no one believes a word out of her mouth anymore.

She’s the new Belle Gibson.

It's a puzzle, @CoffeeCantata . Why do people defend her in the light of such deceitful, deceptive and appalling behaviour? Her titles. They're in awe of them.

I know. I've been observing this fan-girling for a few years now and I think it comes down to the high-school playground - there really are people who admire others for their looks or their clothes and desperately want to be their friend, or part of their gang, even in the teeth of strong evidence that they're not nice. It must be 'glamour and success by association', or something.

What bugs me isn't actually Meghan - it's all this fawning! Plus the constant asking 'Why do you hate (their word) her?' When her critics respond with clear, evidence-based reasons, what do we get? Tumbleweed. No engagement with the valid points, just accusations of 'tearing down another woman' or worse.

I repeat my question to them from up-thread: Why do YOU like her?

I won't be holding my breath for an answer.

@CoffeeCantata most people do see it, now to add to everything in your post, you can add incompetent businesswoman and and even more incompetent netflix show host, curiosity and hate watching numbers don't compensate for the dire reviews and viewer response

You're definitely right, @CoffeeCantata . In the face of evidence? Tumbleweed.
However, all sorts of people get this kind of fangirling, I think it's just a social phenomenon.

Does anyone know where most of the Sussex Squad from? The OTT language and childish proclamations lacking in any critical response to the matters at hand make me curious about their background.

I find it quite immature tbh. Almost like my love of Donny Osmond and Duran Duran. Showing my age!

Well yes, DD has been like this for various people, and thankfully is growing out of it at last (later teens). I know far more than I ever wanted to about Billie Eilish, for example 😂 although in the grand scheme of things I think Billie Eilish is a fairly good role model...!

Maybe American teenagers? They probably don't fully understand what's gone on.

Yes. Also she's written about Dad taking her to all the best restaurants, Dad doing all the lighting for her school plays, and, famously, as she told the UN, dad was the one who engineered her most prized achievement, the Dishsoap Commercial Triumph (and he's the one who got her on TV for that).

I get the impression from what I see and read that there is a demographic of African-American women who have taken Meghan's accusations of racism in the RF very much to heart. I would sympathise if I thought these allegations had any truth in them, but (apart from the allegations themselves being extremely flimsy) H & M have since retracted them, or at least tried to wriggle out of them.

I think many people in the UK and US (and I was one) were thrilled to see a bi-racial woman join the RF butfor some, the allegations made in the OW interview etc have been swallowed whole and have caused huge disappointment and pain. I get this, but there is a core of SS which is absolutely vicious and who say unrepeatable things about Catherine and William and Camilla in particular. To them, Harry's complaints and Meghan's allegations are seen as absolute gospel truth and not to be questioned or held up to scrutiny.

It comes down to evidence and whom you choose to believe. I won't go into all the well-trodden stuff mentioned above, but my scepticism about Meghan is based totally on visual evidence and her own words - as well as evidence of Harry's behaviour (What Meghan wants, Meghan gets!). I can't imagine the partner of a nice woman shouting that at someone, can you?

In my experience, very few fans will admit to actually being fans, which tells you something.

If challenged in the way you describe, they will say that they aren't fans but they 'hate bullying' and 'don't understand the vitriol'. There may often be accusations or insinuations of racism too. Which may sound reasonable on the face of it, but these people only seem concerned about the 'bullying' of one extremely privileged individual who of course has multiple accusations of bullying against her too. None of these 'non fans' who 'hate bullying' care about that of course. If it's pointed out, they'll just indulge in some whataboutery or blame it all on 'the media'.

At this point I wonder if it's also not some form of sunk cost fallacy? They've 'invested' in Meghan and her balding husband for the past 5 years, so feel they need to continue? It's certainly not a principled opposition to the monarchy either, as I've not heard one of them criticise them for continuing to use their titles.

Super fandom is quite an interesting phenonemon. Normally I wouldn't comment on the motivations of posters here, but when it's the stock in trade for so many on the 'other side', a bit of balance wouldn't go amiss.

Yes - it's true that few are prepared to come out and say 'I really like Meghan and here are my reasons'. This in itself makes me suspicious. When I really like someone/something, I'm bubbling over with reasons! I'm not being disingenuous when I say I'd genuinely like to hear why for some people she can do no wrong - I'd be all ears!

I think you're on to something with the sunk cost idea. I think most people with an interest in UK culture/history, the RF etc were delighted when Meghan married Harry. I certainly was, just as I'm excited that the Marchioness of Bath is a mixed-race woman. This is (could had been in M's case) modern Britain! When it all turned to bitter ashes some people watched, read and listened with their critical faculties and others just retreated into hurt anger, desperate to believe Meghan's narrative rather than accept that she was at fault in any way. And I get that people who have experienced racism would be more ready to believe that the RF might be racist. I don't, for reasons that have been gone over a million times on here. And it was a dead easy and absolutely nuclear accusation to make, and one from which the UK will feel the fall-out for a very long time. I find it very hard to forgive and I blame Harry at least as much.

The Marchioness of Bath is lovely, I follow her. She's worked very hard on her brand for Longleat, and she's a very good cook with excellent ideas, and presents well, and she's a very stylish woman. She's risen above the racism and carved a niche for herself and her family. She nearly died giving birth to her son, so it's not been a path strewn with roses.
From this point forward, the Longleat estate will be owned by people with African heritage! 👍

I agree. Emma is utterly gorgeous

I know it’s the style of talk shows, but why was the audience screaming when Meghan appeared on the Drew Barrymore show? It was insane - I had to turn the sound right down. I saw one woman clapping wildly - and her dh was sitting there looking bemused.

All the hugging and “love” was horrendous. Meghan looked and spoke like a lunatic.

I’ve been a fan since Emma was on strictly. Beautiful woman and seems lovely with it.

Dare I say that's the nature of American " live" shows whether it's a quiz game or Jerry Springer? At least JS was interesting 

It's worthwhile looking at her Instagram, she's a very good cook and presents well. It's kind of a lifestyle thing, but the difference is that she's talented, knowledgeable, very informed and communicates well.

Sussex Squad is a cult, no other word for it, not much logic behind them and very easily manipulated. Equally, there are crazies on the other side, spouting stuff about moon bumps etc. Meanwhile those of us in the middle, have seen so many red flags there is little doubt Meghan has some kind of personality disorder. She's not the only one, it's just that the other high profile ones, keep quiet and keep their masks on. Once you scream 'victim hood' when you are dripping in privilege, I am afraid it's game over

Definitely. And cults are very frightening things.

It's terrifying to read and hear the crazy things people are prepared to believe about their idols in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I thought that Drew Barrymore was actually subtly sending her up. She gave her acres of time for her to answer the Qs so that Meghan spewed out unfocussed drivel. Also she announced her as straight "Megan" - no Duchess etc or Meghan Sussex.

I’m sorry, but she was drunk at the LA children’s hospital event.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13934987/amp/richard-eden-meghan-markle-was-just-there-for-the-photographs-claims-fellow-guest-at-la-childrens-hospital-gala.html

The video is half way down the article. Under Meghan shares laughs with Kelly.

Meghan is having photographs taken with Kelly and another woman. Meghan makes a joke to the woman on her right hand side. The woman appears shocked, laughs and then quickly turns to the camera to smile. Meghan on the other hand, thinks whatever she’s said is the funniest thing ever, folds over laughing then in an attempt to regain composure, snaps back, shouts ‘WHOA’ and juts out a hip. She looked like an airhead party girl.

She’s made it known that she enjoys to drink. On the Tig, on her podcast etc. I have no idea how that impacts her life, but she is known to be someone who regularly drinks. As I say, she was drinking on most of the episodes.

Yes, she is also trying to TM As ever alcohol drinks. Probably the most authentic product she would have for sale. Unlike JLO who doesn’t drink but now has a drinks line.

I dont think she appears drunk at that LA red carpet event. She does look anxious and is over expressing herself - think this was her first public appearance since The Hollywood Reporter investigation exposing her bullying if staff in the US was published - so I expect she was 'skittish' - similiar nervous energy as to when she did the unplanned walkabout at Windsor with W&C&H.