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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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glitterturd · 06/04/2025 10:17

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 07:33

Some of the clothes are 100% linen which will always crease the moment you sit down. Given how hot it can grt in California, linen is the right fabric to wear to stay cool but the downside is the creasing.

Is that okay with you? Or should she wesd non-iron polyester and sweaty so you can then take the piss out of her sweat patches.

Meghan is a public person selling clothes now so of course people are going to comment on her appearance. California isn't Venus 😂

Mylovelygreendress · 06/04/2025 10:36

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 10:06

And the personal attacks continue, I hope MN HQ start taking action and yes I've been reporting them.

What personal attacks ? The fact that her clothes are often ill fitting and creased ( not to mention inappropriate) is not a personal attack , rather an observation.

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 10:45

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Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 10:46

glitterturd · 06/04/2025 10:17

Meghan is a public person selling clothes now so of course people are going to comment on her appearance. California isn't Venus 😂

Yeah but pointless making comments about clothes being creased if what she isnwearinf isn100% linen because of course it will crease.

DelectableMe · 06/04/2025 10:50

It's not pointless. I have no idea about the textile composition of her clothing. My comment was about style and appearance. Nothing offensive. Personal opinion.

glitterturd · 06/04/2025 10:50

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 10:46

Yeah but pointless making comments about clothes being creased if what she isnwearinf isn100% linen because of course it will crease.

Well it's not really as clothes are part of her thing and it shows what works and doesn't work. Pointless to some. Points of note to others.

glitterturd · 06/04/2025 10:53

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Oh I see. It's very difficult to know on here at times eg you referred to me as " childish" yesterday. Is that something that is disparaging too and should be reported ?

glitterturd · 06/04/2025 11:07

My last question was @Spectre8. The deletion made my comment look a bit lost.

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 11:09

glitterturd · 06/04/2025 10:50

Well it's not really as clothes are part of her thing and it shows what works and doesn't work. Pointless to some. Points of note to others.

Did I saw YOU were childish? I said how childish to mimick something. Not that YOU were childish. There is a difference.

drivinmecrazy · 06/04/2025 11:10

Regarding MM and her clothes, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to highlight that linen is not her friend.

many many years ago my job involved meeting with Middle Eastern royalty and high ranking civil service people.

my DM was a buyer for a major store at the time and hugely aware of fashions and fabric.
so she was well placed to advise me.

DM drummed in to me that linen was an absolute No No because you never know when there are photographers around the corner.

obviously I would never have been photographed like MM, though I was snapped once or twice leaving a restaurant with my principle at the time.

so given than MM is one of the most famous, or infamous, people of our time, surely she absolutely should have someone to whisper on her ear as to how she appears.

seems it’s a legitimate criticism to place at her door?

glitterturd · 06/04/2025 11:15

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 11:09

Did I saw YOU were childish? I said how childish to mimick something. Not that YOU were childish. There is a difference.

Come on now. We all know that is the same thing. Ooh it's a clever trick to get by the Mods? I will say this while I mean that. Person I am criticising will too? You seem like you want to give but can't take. Funny that but not surprising.

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 11:17

glitterturd · 06/04/2025 11:15

Come on now. We all know that is the same thing. Ooh it's a clever trick to get by the Mods? I will say this while I mean that. Person I am criticising will too? You seem like you want to give but can't take. Funny that but not surprising.

It's not some trick. I don't personally know you to be able to call you childish. But what you wrote was childish hence why I said how childish. It's pretty simple.

glitterturd · 06/04/2025 11:26

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 11:17

It's not some trick. I don't personally know you to be able to call you childish. But what you wrote was childish hence why I said how childish. It's pretty simple.

Of course it is a trick! It's a tactic eg I could say your comments now are childish as you seem to be revelling in the fact that you said this about someone you don't know. It's almost like "boasting". Anyway you are seen. Let's leave it here shall we? I'm on a train right now and it's so shoogly 😂

glitterturd · 06/04/2025 11:28

Back to Meghan yes agree - so many of her looks are disastrous. When you see some of her previous looks though she has raised the bar though.

AtIusvue · 06/04/2025 11:45

Her look is very dated. She will never grace a vogue cover. Which as an influencer hawking clothes on insta….she would covet.

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IAmATorturedPoet · 06/04/2025 11:47

@glitterturd I agree. It’s a well used tactic on these threads and I don’t know why MNHQ aren’t a bit more switched on to this. It’s frustrating but what can you do🤷‍♀️

Back to clothes and I don’t know why MM has to wear so many outfits that are unsuitable for the occasion and fabrics that really don’t travel well. Does she have someone who advises her on this?

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 06/04/2025 12:38

drivinmecrazy · 06/04/2025 11:10

Regarding MM and her clothes, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to highlight that linen is not her friend.

many many years ago my job involved meeting with Middle Eastern royalty and high ranking civil service people.

my DM was a buyer for a major store at the time and hugely aware of fashions and fabric.
so she was well placed to advise me.

DM drummed in to me that linen was an absolute No No because you never know when there are photographers around the corner.

obviously I would never have been photographed like MM, though I was snapped once or twice leaving a restaurant with my principle at the time.

so given than MM is one of the most famous, or infamous, people of our time, surely she absolutely should have someone to whisper on her ear as to how she appears.

seems it’s a legitimate criticism to place at her door?

That’s interesting what fabrics would your DM recommend for hot climates if possible please? I regularly have to go to visit family and it can be 45 degrees 🥵 I really struggle with looking decent and cool. I fail miserably especially the older I get!

jeffgoldblum · 06/04/2025 12:46

Highly creased and wrinkled clothes look scruffy , unkempt and extremely unprofessional on anyone who wears them , this really should not be a matter up for debate.

DelectableMe · 06/04/2025 12:47

@WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout I usually wear natural fabrics, even in the UK.
I wear cotton shirts and trousers, cotton skirts and jersey jackets for work. The shirts and trousers look good, they're comfortable and smart, the ironed look seems to last all day, bar slight wrinkles, but never looks shabby.
I was on a great S&B thread about this recently for those of us who have to look smart, but prefer natural fabrics. Sometimes a cotton mix is ok, and lots of people recommended viscose. Just keep things loose, but not baggy and shapeless.
I'll try to find a link. One of the women worked in a very hot climate, but her pictures showed her looking super chic and stylish.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 06/04/2025 13:27

Thank you!

DelectableMe · 06/04/2025 13:45

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 06/04/2025 13:27

Thank you!

Also, never underestimate how useful a slip is. I wear cotton half slips, which are a boon, but some people recommended the Marks "cool tech" camisoles, full and half slips.
They stop clothes clinging, stop things being see through and make the clothes hang better.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 06/04/2025 13:48

I’ve never thought of a slip. Thank you

Mylovelygreendress · 06/04/2025 14:55

IAmATorturedPoet · 06/04/2025 11:47

@glitterturd I agree. It’s a well used tactic on these threads and I don’t know why MNHQ aren’t a bit more switched on to this. It’s frustrating but what can you do🤷‍♀️

Back to clothes and I don’t know why MM has to wear so many outfits that are unsuitable for the occasion and fabrics that really don’t travel well. Does she have someone who advises her on this?

As with everything else , would she listen ?

IAmATorturedPoet · 06/04/2025 15:31

For someone whose image and appearance is everything (and who has a love of the camera), it’s always surprising to me that she wouldn't'/doesn’t take advice on this.

MM knows best, As ever. 🤦‍♀️

wordler · 06/04/2025 15:49

In general the main mistakes Meghan makes with her clothes (public facing formal clothes - she does casual really well) is that she doesn’t wear good foundation items and she doesn’t get the items tailored to her figure.

If you don’t do those two things you look ‘off’ and a bit sloppy and then it’s easier to focus on other things you don’t like about the outfit.