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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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IcedPurple · 05/04/2025 13:55

My2cents1975 · 05/04/2025 13:40

IMHO, Netflix amended the initial 5 year production contract with H&M. I suspect that the production budget for the cancelled projects has been turned into a callable investment in the lifestyle brand under Netflix's Consumer Products (CP) division.

Netflix has been merchandising content via licensing agreements since almost its inception and opened the online store back in 2021. Until M, no other contract employee had exposed the leadership team at the CP division. Shonda (Bridgerton producer) certainly doesn't talk about CP even though CP has showered Shonda with an avalanche of money! Shonda has kept to her lane of producing highly watched tv shows and has stayed out of the way of the CP team, by keeping her mouth shut and letting the CP team shine.

M is a disaster at the soft sell. By dragging the CP team into the spotlight, the social media eco-system that feeds on her drama will start digging. I doubt the CP team wants their entire merching process scrutinized by various individuals from different backgrounds and specialties deconstructing the CP's procurement and delivery process end to end.

Interesting post.

I did think it notable that she made a point of mentioning the NF 'partnership' in her Instagram post 'announcing' her new brand. That led people to believe that 'As Ever' products would be sold in NF shops, but it seems there's no sign of that. Ted Sarandos said in a recent interview that NF is a 'passive partner' in Meghan's brand, which I think means they have invested in 'As Ever' but are not involved in the running of the business. I reckon if it had been up to Sarandos, NF's involvement would not have been made public at all.

glitterturd · 05/04/2025 13:58

AtIusvue · 05/04/2025 10:26

I highlighted the licensing part above, but for some reason it’s highlighted a different section.

Anyway, she’s talking about how it’s a licensing business. Which shows you how limited this venture is. Even the best tv shows have a shelf life. People won’t be buying Bridgerton products forever.
Also there seems to be many people involved in the venture, who will all want a cut. I’m not sure how much she can realistically expect to get.

This is her typical MO though isn't it ? Insinuate and suggest - lying by omission, suggesting something very different but when it comes to the crunch the reality is very different. It was the same with the racism in the OW and the wedding story. Insinuate, suggest, smile and try to big up yourself. It's a well trodden path by her. She can then say " well I didn't say this or that, that was just assumption based on what I said". She's a very devious dishonest person.

glitterturd · 05/04/2025 14:08

Comment by a friend

"The friend added, “Meghan is busy working on creating something safe and timeless. And something that won’t be accused of riding on the back of anything royal.”

BelfastBug · 05/04/2025 14:25

Hilarious that she pitches herself up there with Bridgerton - grandiose and delusional As Ever.

She hasnt invented or developed anything its just generic white label goods - looks like museum shop gifts. I think she will do better with the clothes and make-up easy commission and more on brand for her IMHO? Looks of people admire her polished groomed look and she just has to 'be out and about' to build ista content to click thru to products.

I wonder if As Ever is just a fig leaf for the commission stuff so she can claim to be a Boss Babe.

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 05/04/2025 14:48

Hilarious that she pitches herself up there with Bridgerton - grandiose and delusional As Ever

She's brought out a lifestyle blog on telly, where has she said she "pitches herself up there with a Bridgerton?' Or is that just your attempt to try and be funny like you were presumably with your oh so clever As Ever wordplay?

IcedPurple · 05/04/2025 14:51

BelfastBug · 05/04/2025 14:25

Hilarious that she pitches herself up there with Bridgerton - grandiose and delusional As Ever.

She hasnt invented or developed anything its just generic white label goods - looks like museum shop gifts. I think she will do better with the clothes and make-up easy commission and more on brand for her IMHO? Looks of people admire her polished groomed look and she just has to 'be out and about' to build ista content to click thru to products.

I wonder if As Ever is just a fig leaf for the commission stuff so she can claim to be a Boss Babe.

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"Polished and groomed" are not words I'd use to describe Meghan. "Grandiose and delusional" yes! Even when she wears nice outfits they are often ill fitting or poorly put together.

Also, the thing about her 'Shopmy' page is that the items seem a bit random. She hasn't been seen in most of the clothes and she doesn't even claim to use the beauty products. I guess she might make some money from it, but it won't be Montecito money, or even close.

AtIusvue · 05/04/2025 15:17

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 05/04/2025 14:48

Hilarious that she pitches herself up there with Bridgerton - grandiose and delusional As Ever

She's brought out a lifestyle blog on telly, where has she said she "pitches herself up there with a Bridgerton?' Or is that just your attempt to try and be funny like you were presumably with your oh so clever As Ever wordplay?

Meghan- talking about Bridgerton in Variety magazine:

She thanked Netflix's chief content officer BelaBajaria, who she called a friend and role model, and the company’s vice president of consumer products Josh Simon for their work to make As Ever, which currently has 10 employees, a success. “They have tremendous experience on licensing deals and turning brands and shows into really good products, like Bridgerton,” she said, adding that the As Ever staff is in contact with Simon’s CPG team daily.’

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PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 05/04/2025 16:11

people admire her polished groomed look

Hahahahahahaha. <wipes eyes> The woman is a creased mess who wears expensive ill-fitting clothes she can't be bothered to have altered to fit her.

DelectableMe · 05/04/2025 16:12

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 05/04/2025 16:11

people admire her polished groomed look

Hahahahahahaha. <wipes eyes> The woman is a creased mess who wears expensive ill-fitting clothes she can't be bothered to have altered to fit her.

Also, why are they always creased? Has the housekeeper not been provided with an iron? Why don't things fit?

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 05/04/2025 16:16

No attention to detail. Despite the fact we are told she has 'freakish attention to detail'. Perhaps 'freakish attention to detail' only kicks in when she is trying to demean and destroy employees and pick holes in everyone else.

surreygirlzz · 05/04/2025 16:26

does this woman never want to be off TV
No way will I be viewing

DelectableMe · 05/04/2025 16:40

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 05/04/2025 16:16

No attention to detail. Despite the fact we are told she has 'freakish attention to detail'. Perhaps 'freakish attention to detail' only kicks in when she is trying to demean and destroy employees and pick holes in everyone else.

Or maybe it's only in comparison to Harry who probably doesn't know what day it is.

Onlyonekenobe · 05/04/2025 23:27

BelfastBug · 04/04/2025 22:07

I dont believe the RF have the buying power to out bid OW + NF + Paramount + PRH + Spotify etc.

Also the content will likely be aimed at PH - so they will not care.

I think that they will continue with the 'never complain, never explain' and let the dust settle as no one believes her anyway.

If there is a book, it will be almost all "me, I, me, I, me, I".

It will be MM positioning herself for the future, which means her using her voice, telling her story through the lens that best suits her future identity, and she will take no prisoners. She can't ghost Harry given he's the father of her children, and if she holds back she will let it be known she's holding back (so generous) for her children's sake. But otherwise everything else will be gloves off. It will be the most self-indulgent self promotion known to mankind with more than a few lies, more than a little air-brushing, lots of being economical with the truth and telling half-truths, lots of ducking and diving thinking she's being clever by not saying the actual words but trying to imply... Just all the things we've seen already. With photos. It would be AWFUL.

BelfastBug · 05/04/2025 23:42

Onlyonekenobe · 05/04/2025 23:27

If there is a book, it will be almost all "me, I, me, I, me, I".

It will be MM positioning herself for the future, which means her using her voice, telling her story through the lens that best suits her future identity, and she will take no prisoners. She can't ghost Harry given he's the father of her children, and if she holds back she will let it be known she's holding back (so generous) for her children's sake. But otherwise everything else will be gloves off. It will be the most self-indulgent self promotion known to mankind with more than a few lies, more than a little air-brushing, lots of being economical with the truth and telling half-truths, lots of ducking and diving thinking she's being clever by not saying the actual words but trying to imply... Just all the things we've seen already. With photos. It would be AWFUL.

Agree .... but not credible to anyone else - it's already established she is a grandiose, deluded, liar, bully - so no one would take the contents seriously anyway. It would just be more mendacious word-salad providing light entertainment and an opportunity to ridicule her.

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 06/04/2025 00:15

Onlyonekenobe · 05/04/2025 23:27

If there is a book, it will be almost all "me, I, me, I, me, I".

It will be MM positioning herself for the future, which means her using her voice, telling her story through the lens that best suits her future identity, and she will take no prisoners. She can't ghost Harry given he's the father of her children, and if she holds back she will let it be known she's holding back (so generous) for her children's sake. But otherwise everything else will be gloves off. It will be the most self-indulgent self promotion known to mankind with more than a few lies, more than a little air-brushing, lots of being economical with the truth and telling half-truths, lots of ducking and diving thinking she's being clever by not saying the actual words but trying to imply... Just all the things we've seen already. With photos. It would be AWFUL.

Quite the imagination some have on here, building up complete fantasies in their own head 😳😁
I seriously think there should be a psychology look into what seems to be a Meghan Markle phenomena, I find it truly fascinating.

Onlyonekenobe · 06/04/2025 00:21

I happily confess to having little creativity and even less imagination. I'm merely extrapolating from history, evidenced fact. No psychology required. It's totally transparent (except, of course, to those who can't or won't see).

BelfastBug · 06/04/2025 00:32

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 06/04/2025 00:15

Quite the imagination some have on here, building up complete fantasies in their own head 😳😁
I seriously think there should be a psychology look into what seems to be a Meghan Markle phenomena, I find it truly fascinating.

Quite the imagination Meghan Markle has - building up complete fantasies in her own head 😳😁
I seriously think there should be a psychology look into what seems to be a Meghan Markle phenomena, I find it truly fascinating.

I think its called sociopathic narcissism.

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 07:27

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 06/04/2025 00:15

Quite the imagination some have on here, building up complete fantasies in their own head 😳😁
I seriously think there should be a psychology look into what seems to be a Meghan Markle phenomena, I find it truly fascinating.

They should cash in on her name and write some fantasy books 📚 there is enough material to fill several books. Might as well put all that time and energy into something productive

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 07:29

BelfastBug · 05/04/2025 14:25

Hilarious that she pitches herself up there with Bridgerton - grandiose and delusional As Ever.

She hasnt invented or developed anything its just generic white label goods - looks like museum shop gifts. I think she will do better with the clothes and make-up easy commission and more on brand for her IMHO? Looks of people admire her polished groomed look and she just has to 'be out and about' to build ista content to click thru to products.

I wonder if As Ever is just a fig leaf for the commission stuff so she can claim to be a Boss Babe.

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Why must she develop or invented something? There are hundreds of business that don't.

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 07:33

DelectableMe · 05/04/2025 16:12

Also, why are they always creased? Has the housekeeper not been provided with an iron? Why don't things fit?

Some of the clothes are 100% linen which will always crease the moment you sit down. Given how hot it can grt in California, linen is the right fabric to wear to stay cool but the downside is the creasing.

Is that okay with you? Or should she wesd non-iron polyester and sweaty so you can then take the piss out of her sweat patches.

DelectableMe · 06/04/2025 07:49

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 07:33

Some of the clothes are 100% linen which will always crease the moment you sit down. Given how hot it can grt in California, linen is the right fabric to wear to stay cool but the downside is the creasing.

Is that okay with you? Or should she wesd non-iron polyester and sweaty so you can then take the piss out of her sweat patches.

Why say that? I know California is hot. She wore creased clothing at Invictus and on the quasi royal tours. She wore creased clothing on various quasi royal visits. Not all the outfits were linen. Her choice. I personally think it looks sloppy. My opinion on her style.
When a working member of the RF she looked stylish, smart and on point. Maybe it's because Charles paid for bespoke designer clothing, or maybe it was the housekeeping service. I don't know. She used to look great.
She doesn't always now. My opinion.
Polyester 🙄

StrawberryWasp · 06/04/2025 08:15

I like her style. I liked her clothes on WLM.

But I'm a sucker for The White Company clothes and candles. Like lots of middle aged women like me are, and I think that's essentially her look.

I too sometimes have the issue that I want to wear a white linen shirt but I'm going to be cooking. So I feel her dilemma 😁

I don't wear white while gardening though.

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Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 10:06

And the personal attacks continue, I hope MN HQ start taking action and yes I've been reporting them.

glitterturd · 06/04/2025 10:14

Spectre8 · 06/04/2025 10:06

And the personal attacks continue, I hope MN HQ start taking action and yes I've been reporting them.

Personal attacks on Meghan?