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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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AtIusvue · 03/04/2025 17:47

So full circle and back to the title of the thread. Meghan show and As ever is something new.

It’s premium brand fan merch business enabled by Snow Commerce. They specialise in working with entertainment companies (paramount, WB etc) to merch to Fandoms.

It’s my guess, wirh Meghan working with NF, Snow Commerce approached meghan with this idea. This is why, as outlined in the OP, that it was obvious it was an informercial and she had extremely tenuous links to the items she was trying to hawk. Linking crepe mix with her backing etc. It’s all just to shift meghan merch- but it’s disguised as a real business.
Which makes sense, as this is all about her fans. Explains the As Ever NYC launch with her Tig fans from 10ths ago that we all thought was strange. It why she talks in strange ways to her fans in insta, like they are sharing something special. She’s literally feeding the Sussex squad and getting fat off the profits.

This company does everything, supply, finding producers, setting up the shop, shopping etc.
So this is a way to monetise the Sussex squad basically. Snow commerce makes a tonne of merch for lots of shows. But it has terrible reviews. But I don’t know how sustainable this will be.

It’s also why it won’t be in grocery stores etc. it’s literally just fan merch.

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Bontonbonbon · 03/04/2025 17:51

It is the biggliest grift of all! I feel quite sorry for the poor women who have been groomed into Meghan fandom as teens and are now expected to support their false idol with hard dollar.

Many of us said at the time of Megxit that she wanted to merch her title but this is the lowest of the low. Truly exploitative.

AtIusvue · 03/04/2025 17:51

This shows you how snow commerce and the fandom merch works. The source everything. It’s why it’s long life staple crap.

Also explains why they have small quantities to sell out, get email info and produce more.

You see it’s set up to be risk free- which I’m sure Meg jumped at as she doesn’t have the funds to set up a proper business.

She must be giving them a hefty cut!!!!

Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
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AtIusvue · 03/04/2025 17:53

Bontonbonbon · 03/04/2025 17:51

It is the biggliest grift of all! I feel quite sorry for the poor women who have been groomed into Meghan fandom as teens and are now expected to support their false idol with hard dollar.

Many of us said at the time of Megxit that she wanted to merch her title but this is the lowest of the low. Truly exploitative.

100%

It’s not a legit business, it’s designed to squeeze the Sussex squad.

So she doesn’t care if it’s backs reviewed etc, she isn’t selling to them. It’s the fans.

Another poster pointed out, it’s why she never calls off the Sussex squad from attacking people. It’s her core customer base. She can sell any old shit and they will buy.

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Bontonbonbon · 03/04/2025 18:05

@AtIusvue

Exactly, Meghan seems quite keen on challenging online bullying, except when it’s her flying monkey squad that’s doing it.

I am starting to believe that it’s a cult. Don’t question dear leader, follow the rules, give her all your cash.

I imagine there going to be some wild survivor stories in years to come. ‘I survived the Sussex Squad Uber circle’.

pursuitOfSomething · 04/04/2025 10:06

it’s designed to squeeze the Sussex squad

It seems very cyncial - and frankly risky what if these rabid fans wake up and turn on her.

AtIusvue · 04/04/2025 10:23

pursuitOfSomething · 04/04/2025 10:06

it’s designed to squeeze the Sussex squad

It seems very cyncial - and frankly risky what if these rabid fans wake up and turn on her.

Thing is, these fans are all over everything.Theres no way they don’t know she’s using a Fandom merchandising company already. I suspect at first they won’t care….but I can’t see longevity in it.

She’s only releasing products on a ‘seasonal’ basis- the season being a tv season….not the seasons of the year. So there won’t be crepe mix available next year- Which also shows you she isn’t developing these products because she loves them …it’s just a short term money making scheme to squeeze the fans, selling white labels goods, then move on to the next one.

This Snow commerce also has a terrible reputation, so if there’s issues with the quality….then they will be quickly moving on to a new product anyway.

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Reetpetitenot · 04/04/2025 10:25

Remember the Zoella advent calendar?

AtIusvue · 04/04/2025 10:30

Yes, what a disaster

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glitterturd · 04/04/2025 11:20

Every day I see these As ever products getting further and further away from the idea that they are a limited edition drop. They are the opposite of supporting your local producers at the farmer's market . Attached a pic I took at a farmer's market last time in the USA. I know what I would be spending my money on.

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Not2identifying · 04/04/2025 11:31

I guess we'll find out if the Sussex Squad is willing to put their money where their mouth is. I know that it's not just one organised group of people so, in the past, a wider range of people contributed to charity fundraisers the Squad did for the kids' birthdays and similar but this is something altogether different which I don't think will attract people in the same way. We'll see.

glitterturd · 04/04/2025 12:15

You get people like this who seem to want to copy her - it's very odd. I get youngsters with pop idols but grown women ?

Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
BelfastBug · 04/04/2025 12:22

Not2identifying · 04/04/2025 11:31

I guess we'll find out if the Sussex Squad is willing to put their money where their mouth is. I know that it's not just one organised group of people so, in the past, a wider range of people contributed to charity fundraisers the Squad did for the kids' birthdays and similar but this is something altogether different which I don't think will attract people in the same way. We'll see.

I expect they would nearly end up MLM them for her - banging the drum.

I wonder if any will be used as influencers?

Do we know who MM has sent out complimentray products to yet to review?

BemusedAmerican · 04/04/2025 12:25

Snow Commerce seems to be just not delivering. It's one thing to get your overpriced pancake mix. It's another to spend a fortune and never receive it. That may cause some super fans to rethink.

BelfastBug · 04/04/2025 12:28

BemusedAmerican · 04/04/2025 12:25

Snow Commerce seems to be just not delivering. It's one thing to get your overpriced pancake mix. It's another to spend a fortune and never receive it. That may cause some super fans to rethink.

Do we know that that is actually the case with this range?

I had seen poor reviews from other products that delivery didnt happen.

Q for m is why was MM unable to drum up investment and why is she loath to invest her own $$$ into her own venture? Suggests to me it has no legs from any market research and is a vanity project for MM. Or that the real benefit is selling data or raising her profile for other opportunities rather than shifting units of pancake mix.

AtIusvue · 04/04/2025 12:33

BelfastBug · 04/04/2025 12:28

Do we know that that is actually the case with this range?

I had seen poor reviews from other products that delivery didnt happen.

Q for m is why was MM unable to drum up investment and why is she loath to invest her own $$$ into her own venture? Suggests to me it has no legs from any market research and is a vanity project for MM. Or that the real benefit is selling data or raising her profile for other opportunities rather than shifting units of pancake mix.

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Because that requires hard work and cold hard cash?This is all done for her and it’s good to go.
I also suspect Harry and Meg burn thorough money and the Spare money might not be around anymore, so she didn’t have the funds to invest in her own from.

It’s the easy route to use a fandom merchandiser to sell white label goods.

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BemusedAmerican · 04/04/2025 12:35

I'm going from the Snow Commerce reviews. The site just went live, so it's going to be some time before the delivery complaints begin, if they do exist.

glitterturd · 04/04/2025 12:36

I would have been expecting this going on at Montecito for all the fuss that has been made!

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AtIusvue · 04/04/2025 12:37

BemusedAmerican · 04/04/2025 12:35

I'm going from the Snow Commerce reviews. The site just went live, so it's going to be some time before the delivery complaints begin, if they do exist.

Theyve had lots of bad reviews from multiple merch stores. It seems to be a theme:

  • bad quality
  • late delivery
  • non existent customer service
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Serenster · 04/04/2025 12:53

BelfastBug · 04/04/2025 12:28

Do we know that that is actually the case with this range?

I had seen poor reviews from other products that delivery didnt happen.

Q for m is why was MM unable to drum up investment and why is she loath to invest her own $$$ into her own venture? Suggests to me it has no legs from any market research and is a vanity project for MM. Or that the real benefit is selling data or raising her profile for other opportunities rather than shifting units of pancake mix.

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It’s sensible I would suggest to partner with an existing business to provide outsourced ordering shipping services, along with customer service management also. Setting that up from scratch would be expensive, and it’s a common point of failure for new businesses as they don’t have the capital or the expertise to scale up at speed if needed.

The downside of course is that you will need to pay them a commercial rate for their services, so it will be big chunk of the revenue Meghan is making from sales gone on paying for this outsourcing.

Lovelysummerdays · 04/04/2025 13:05

I am not the intended audience and I’ll probably never see it. That said I’m not really seeing an issue. It’s a classic buy this stuff and your life will be as beautiful as and wonderful as mine.

It’s nothing new atall. People have been flogging aspirational stuff for ages. Be wonderful/ thin / beautiful/ wrinkle free / luscious locks / banish greys / blah de blah just be like me if you buy xyz.

AtIusvue · 04/04/2025 13:08

Lovelysummerdays · 04/04/2025 13:05

I am not the intended audience and I’ll probably never see it. That said I’m not really seeing an issue. It’s a classic buy this stuff and your life will be as beautiful as and wonderful as mine.

It’s nothing new atall. People have been flogging aspirational stuff for ages. Be wonderful/ thin / beautiful/ wrinkle free / luscious locks / banish greys / blah de blah just be like me if you buy xyz.

It is new.

This is run by a fan merching company, that works with tv networks, to sell fan merchandise from what they’ve seen in tv. So her NF show.

This isn’t, a premium food company. It’s a cash grab, exploiting the loyalty of her fans.

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glitterturd · 04/04/2025 13:13

@Lovelysummerdays a celeb name turns me right off but we're not speaking here about standard celeb imagery. No one expects to be standing in water with a bird of prey landing on their arm if they buy a certain perfume. It's all about her and her journey blah blah but yes some people will love it.

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Bontonbonbon · 04/04/2025 13:22

It’s an Only Fans account being run on Instagram. It’s quite sad really.

glitterturd · 04/04/2025 13:40

It's all very insular too - the groups, the squads, the instas . You need permission to join many of these things and are not allowed to comment at all🤷‍♀️ . It's all very Handmaiden.