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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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smilesy · 06/03/2025 13:54

jerkchicken · 06/03/2025 13:48

I can’t understand the mindset behind clearly disliking MM but yet watching every episode of her show and spending what seems like hours researching and analysing her actions. Why give so much importance to someone you clearly are not a fan of? I don’t care for MM either way but can’t understand this level of obsession.

The OP watched every episode so that they could form a full and balanced view of the content. Are you suggesting this was the wrong thing to do when critiquing a series of programmes? It isn’t relevant whether you like the programme or the presenter

Reetpetitenot · 06/03/2025 13:54

But that's the point - she's not cooking fresh ingredients, she's using packet mixes and pouncing about covering the finished product in fresh flowers to 'elevate' what's basically a Betty Crocker cake mix. I wouldn't have thought that was the vibe she was after tbh. Think I'll stick with Ina.

DancefloorAcrobatics · 06/03/2025 13:56

I only watched the trailer... it's definitely not for me. I also like to think that in the majority of cases I don't fall for product placement/ advertising.
Well done for her if the sheep follow and spend their cash on the items featured.

User14March · 06/03/2025 13:57

AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:45

Honestly, I don’t know. I can’t figure out who her market is.

Her Tig fans were very young at the NYC launch. Would they really buy these products? I’m not sure

Many trad wife wannabes in the US I would think are republicans and won’t connect with feminist, activist Meghan. so won’t buy into it.

Cant see young liberal women wanting to buy boxed cake mix from someone who is selling trad wife life.

I really can’t think who it would be, but there must be people. She has fans. I just don’t know who they are.

The trad southern wives I know, admittedly small group, just love her. She gorgeous, glossy, stylish & bagged an English prince! They’re not her target market, it’s the aspiring averages I think l, who appear to have more disposable income than counterparts in the UK. Stack high in Trader Joes & Target & watch the mix fly.

IcedPurple · 06/03/2025 13:59

User14March · 06/03/2025 13:46

@Reetpetitenot aspiring lower middle class, men like her father perhaps - people she knows. Someone might espy a packet shortbread mix and say ‘ohhh check you, how lah-dee-da!’. Privately she might be dissing to posh mates ‘shh of course our chef only does organic’ think Ratners. Genius!

Genius? Really?

You think there's a huge market for "lah-dee-da" shortbread mixes among "aspiring lower middle class" men? You think these men are all watching Meghan's show and wishing they too could be making fruit rainbows in her rented kitchen?

thinktwice36 · 06/03/2025 14:00

Packet mixes for stuff?? How very US.

Couldn’t take a cooking show seriously if it then tried to punt me a cake mix 😆

Sushiandunagi · 06/03/2025 14:06

idk OP’s analysis actually sounds like a plausible explanation to what is mind bogglingly dull lifestyle show. It’s like Brooklyn Beckham showing us how to make avocado on toast… I mean Meghan invites her “friends” to give them tips & tricks on how to host. The dialogues with her friends are scripted and fake just like her pretend “home” with sprinkle of dried flowers. Do we really need to be shown how to make a balloon arch, bread with cream cheese or to be told how thoughtful it is to decant some pretzels into a bag with hand made label?!
If it’s a commercial, I should want to watch it… I barely fought through 1 episode.

User14March · 06/03/2025 14:14

IcedPurple · 06/03/2025 13:59

Genius? Really?

You think there's a huge market for "lah-dee-da" shortbread mixes among "aspiring lower middle class" men? You think these men are all watching Meghan's show and wishing they too could be making fruit rainbows in her rented kitchen?

Yep, I think there are a lot of aspiring average Americans who may buy into this brand. We’ll see. She needs some products to sell first, granted.

User14March · 06/03/2025 14:15

Sushiandunagi · 06/03/2025 14:06

idk OP’s analysis actually sounds like a plausible explanation to what is mind bogglingly dull lifestyle show. It’s like Brooklyn Beckham showing us how to make avocado on toast… I mean Meghan invites her “friends” to give them tips & tricks on how to host. The dialogues with her friends are scripted and fake just like her pretend “home” with sprinkle of dried flowers. Do we really need to be shown how to make a balloon arch, bread with cream cheese or to be told how thoughtful it is to decant some pretzels into a bag with hand made label?!
If it’s a commercial, I should want to watch it… I barely fought through 1 episode.

Brooklyn has his sauce now which might just work re: similar target market I think.

jeffgoldblum · 06/03/2025 14:28

No sauce or advert will be as good as Lloyd grossmans!

Him interfering with his wife cooking in the kitchen... try this .... add this ..... do you know what Lloyd ! Why don't you do it yourself?

So I did !!

Cutaway to Lloyd grosman sauces! 🤣🤣

Mightymoog · 06/03/2025 15:01

jerkchicken · 06/03/2025 13:48

I can’t understand the mindset behind clearly disliking MM but yet watching every episode of her show and spending what seems like hours researching and analysing her actions. Why give so much importance to someone you clearly are not a fan of? I don’t care for MM either way but can’t understand this level of obsession.

because it's good fun and a welcome diversion from real life.
Why are you commenting if you "don't care for MM either way"?

IcedPurple · 06/03/2025 15:24

User14March · 06/03/2025 14:14

Yep, I think there are a lot of aspiring average Americans who may buy into this brand. We’ll see. She needs some products to sell first, granted.

I think you have a rather patronising attitude towards 'aspiring average Americans'. They are going through a cost of living crisis right now and unlikely to shell out several times over the odds for "lah-dee-da" shortbread mixes just because the wife of a British prince is hawking them.

Most people are not stupid and don't hand over their cash without expecting something in return.

User14March · 06/03/2025 15:30

IcedPurple · 06/03/2025 15:24

I think you have a rather patronising attitude towards 'aspiring average Americans'. They are going through a cost of living crisis right now and unlikely to shell out several times over the odds for "lah-dee-da" shortbread mixes just because the wife of a British prince is hawking them.

Most people are not stupid and don't hand over their cash without expecting something in return.

Was just trying to make point clear not patronise. I do see CoL biting in the UK far, far more.

Fluffyholeysocks · 06/03/2025 15:35

Call it an 'informercial', cooking or lifestyle show with or without an extra twist, it's tripe.

IdaGlossop · 06/03/2025 17:11

LaBarruci · 06/03/2025 13:17

That's very convincing, but one elephant in the room: we can't actually buy these products which every episode is tied to, we have no idea when they'll be available, there is no proper outlet to buy them from, and by the time they are launched, if they are ever launched, we'll have forgotten all about the programme.

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We don't know how much they're going to cost either.

IdaGlossop · 06/03/2025 17:23

If this theory is correct (and I can see it might be), my reaction is two-fold. First,
deceiving and manipulating an audience in this way seems like an odd way to build a fan base. I'm British, though, and don't know whether this is an accepted and successful approach in the USA. Second, brand loyalty when fronted by a celebrity demands a popular celebrity. While Meghan has her supporters, she has a backstory and behaviour which have made her unpopular.

IcedPurple · 06/03/2025 17:23

IdaGlossop · 06/03/2025 17:11

We don't know how much they're going to cost either.

No, and a poster pointed out on another thread that the 'spread' she sent to someone had none of the nutritional information that would be legally required on a product if it is to be sold commercially.

My guess is the products are nowhere near ready for sale. Really poor timing. A bit like putting merchandise for a film on sale weeks after it's stopped showing in cinemas.

IdaGlossop · 06/03/2025 17:26

IcedPurple · 06/03/2025 17:23

No, and a poster pointed out on another thread that the 'spread' she sent to someone had none of the nutritional information that would be legally required on a product if it is to be sold commercially.

My guess is the products are nowhere near ready for sale. Really poor timing. A bit like putting merchandise for a film on sale weeks after it's stopped showing in cinemas.

Edited

I agree @IcedPurple we will look back in a few month's time at this week's flurry of activity and realise that nothing has happened since.

EsmaCannonball · 06/03/2025 17:33

I think there will be a lot of hype around the Netflix stores when they finally open and they will be a destination shop for people who like to post every aspect of their lives online. Those kinds of people will probably buy As Ever goods as part of the experience but it won't be sustainable. She really needs to establish the online shopping aspect to really make money and I can't see that taking off for the expensive but basic food products. I'm surprised she hasn't started out with candles, homeware and children's clothing. I can't work out who her target market is, though? Surely most people would find owning As Ever products a bit naff and embarrassing?

NormalAuntFanny · 06/03/2025 17:55

I can't help seeing "as ever" as "a sever" when it's written as the URL.

Must stop watching Severance...

Tigertigertigertiger · 06/03/2025 18:03

It's absolutely smug and unbearable

Yorkshiredolls · 06/03/2025 18:07

My gosh have you really got that much time on your hands that you put so much effort into watching it all and then writing all that? Who cares

EasternStandard · 06/03/2025 18:08

I haven't watched, I didn't bother with the other stuff they put out either but your op is convincing,

Although the timing is a bit out if not for sale yet.

IdaGlossop · 06/03/2025 18:18

NormalAuntFanny · 06/03/2025 17:55

I can't help seeing "as ever" as "a sever" when it's written as the URL.

Must stop watching Severance...

She's channelling Iris Murdoch's novel 'A Severed Head', a cloaked reference to her desire to decapitate those in the Royal family who disrespected her 😉

Serenster · 06/03/2025 18:24

User14March · 06/03/2025 14:14

Yep, I think there are a lot of aspiring average Americans who may buy into this brand. We’ll see. She needs some products to sell first, granted.

And the US is a genuinely huge market - 340 million.