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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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IdaGlossop · 08/03/2025 16:37

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 08/03/2025 16:27

Thanks for that clarification. So she's basically chosen 3 names over an entire year of roll out that get her no further than UPF crap in a packet. What exactly are we supposed to be admiring about her/ this project? It's pure incompetence.

It is pure incompetence. She does have a gift for telling herself a good story and making the story public, only for the public to find that all her pretty little houses are built on sand. She may even lose money with As Ever, if you take account of legal challenges (trademark, data protection), manufacturing costs, packaging and shopping costs, and (probably) low sales. Lots of $$$$$$ out, not many $ back in.

Wildflowers99 · 08/03/2025 16:45

Yes the product range is shite - nobody buys herbal tea to have a fancy gold logo on the front. It’s naturally a bit of a hippy/health market and something more relaxed or rustic would’ve been far better. She seems to be desperate to capitalise on the royal aspect but is applying it to the wrong products - as PP said it would’ve been better suited to things like linen/silver ware/posh tea sets than herbal tea and edible flowers. Also herbal tea isn’t the kind of thing you pre order, it’s a small relatively cheap item.

I think she’s got this all wrong and the product IS the Netflix series. The series is very cheap to produce compared to documentaries or sitcoms - no actors, proper sets etc - so I’m not surprised they’ve commissioned another series. My guess is the second series will be the last, and the brand will wrap up in 2 years due to lack of direction and interest.

Wildflowers99 · 08/03/2025 16:47

Also, who buys jam in ‘keepsake packaging’? 🤔

Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
DelectableMe · 08/03/2025 16:56

Wildflowers99 · 08/03/2025 16:47

Also, who buys jam in ‘keepsake packaging’? 🤔

Nobody

IdaGlossop · 08/03/2025 17:01

Wildflowers99 · 08/03/2025 16:45

Yes the product range is shite - nobody buys herbal tea to have a fancy gold logo on the front. It’s naturally a bit of a hippy/health market and something more relaxed or rustic would’ve been far better. She seems to be desperate to capitalise on the royal aspect but is applying it to the wrong products - as PP said it would’ve been better suited to things like linen/silver ware/posh tea sets than herbal tea and edible flowers. Also herbal tea isn’t the kind of thing you pre order, it’s a small relatively cheap item.

I think she’s got this all wrong and the product IS the Netflix series. The series is very cheap to produce compared to documentaries or sitcoms - no actors, proper sets etc - so I’m not surprised they’ve commissioned another series. My guess is the second series will be the last, and the brand will wrap up in 2 years due to lack of direction and interest.

The second set of programmes has already been made. I think it 's Netflix's way of drawing a line under the relationship. The format and set were already there so the costs were probably not huge.

Wildflowers99 · 08/03/2025 17:05

DelectableMe · 08/03/2025 16:56

Nobody

It’s a cardboard tube. What would you keep in it after Confused it’s very strange.

AutumnCrowRoyale · 08/03/2025 17:19

I've just had a chance to watch the 'I'm Sussex now' scene on You Tube, and I'm very curious about Netflix choosing to keep it in.

Messex: It's so funny that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I'm Sussex now ... You have kids [emphasis and hand gesture] and you go, no I share my name with my children ...

Mindy Kaling's voice: Yes [though interestingly you don't see her saying this, just the back of her head moving, so it could have been edited in later]

Messex: ... and that feels so [stutters and pauses] I, I didn't know how meaningful that would be to me, but it, it, just means so much to go, this is our family name ... [fixes intense look on Mindy]

Bearing in mind that billions of women throughout the world do not and will not have the same names as their husbands and children, for all sorts of reasons - racial, ethnic, cultural, historical-colonial, professional, circumstantial, personal - to whom is this message supposed to appeal? Which demographic do the marketing geniuses at Netflix think this message is likely to embrace, and which demographics will it likely alienate?

Netflix could have re-shot it or used a different edit.

To me it seems a bloody odd marketing strategy, running the risk as it does of being accused of promoting smug western white trad-wifey ego-driven social-climbing prestige-grabbing status-clinging claptrap.

And award winning producer, writer and ensemble actor Mindy Kaling went along with it? Bollocks. I suspect she was more likely edit-napped.

DelectableMe · 08/03/2025 17:21

Wildflowers99 · 08/03/2025 17:05

It’s a cardboard tube. What would you keep in it after Confused it’s very strange.

Dried flowers for the purpose of elevation? Who knows.

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 08/03/2025 17:52

AutumnCrowRoyale · 08/03/2025 17:19

I've just had a chance to watch the 'I'm Sussex now' scene on You Tube, and I'm very curious about Netflix choosing to keep it in.

Messex: It's so funny that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I'm Sussex now ... You have kids [emphasis and hand gesture] and you go, no I share my name with my children ...

Mindy Kaling's voice: Yes [though interestingly you don't see her saying this, just the back of her head moving, so it could have been edited in later]

Messex: ... and that feels so [stutters and pauses] I, I didn't know how meaningful that would be to me, but it, it, just means so much to go, this is our family name ... [fixes intense look on Mindy]

Bearing in mind that billions of women throughout the world do not and will not have the same names as their husbands and children, for all sorts of reasons - racial, ethnic, cultural, historical-colonial, professional, circumstantial, personal - to whom is this message supposed to appeal? Which demographic do the marketing geniuses at Netflix think this message is likely to embrace, and which demographics will it likely alienate?

Netflix could have re-shot it or used a different edit.

To me it seems a bloody odd marketing strategy, running the risk as it does of being accused of promoting smug western white trad-wifey ego-driven social-climbing prestige-grabbing status-clinging claptrap.

And award winning producer, writer and ensemble actor Mindy Kaling went along with it? Bollocks. I suspect she was more likely edit-napped.

Also bear in mind Mindy Kaling has 3 children, father's identity kept hidden, surnames likely to be Kaling because of this. MM clearly is not that good a friend to Kaling (who was only 2 months post partum at the time of filming) to exercise any sensitivity during her little speech. Kaling looked absolutely blind-sided.

EsmaCannonball · 08/03/2025 18:02

Oh god, so we're going to have:

Hallowe'en - where Meghan and some minor celebrity she's emailed twice are going to hang strips of fruit out to dry in the sun as a healthy trick or treat gift for some non-existent children.

Thanksgiving - where a group of people Meghan tangentially knows or employs are made to stand round thanking Meghan for being Meghan.

Christmas - where Meghan tries to convince America that Smash (Potato Snow Sprinkles), Paxo (Foraged Herb Sprinkles) and Bisto (Beloved Pet Chicken Who Died In Her Sleep Sprinkles) are all things that Montecito millionaires (and you, dear viewer) can't wait to spend $25 on.

IdaGlossop · 08/03/2025 18:11

Wildflowers99 · 08/03/2025 17:05

It’s a cardboard tube. What would you keep in it after Confused it’s very strange.

There are sooo many things you could keep in a quiet luxury cardboard tube. Dried flowers! Broken spaghetti! 'Erbs from your garden! A hand-made beeswax candle! Ground pinenuts so it's quicker to make pesto! Dried citrus circles from your very own American Riviera Orchard! Bath salts! English Shortbread Cookies! Silk bags of 'erbs! Skeins of raffia for tying the necks of silk bags! Home-baked dog biscuits! Hibiscus tea bags! Dish soap! Guy's ashes! Guys! Prince Archie Princess & Lilibet's baby curls (strong ginger genes vibe)! The rolled title deeds to your Montecito mansion! Elizabeth Arden Todger Cream! The diamonds from your wedding tiara! The pencil skirt from the first ever episode of Suits! A lens! A royal racist (or two)! A spare! A mirror, because 'I see myself in all of you'!

JADS · 08/03/2025 18:21

JoyousEagle · 08/03/2025 15:08

I would really interesting to see what is in the "second" series. I thought 8 episodes was over egging the pudding. I can't see what other bodged attempts at cooking and crafts we will see.

I think the Netflix announcement said it would be out in the autumn, and in the screenshot someone posted upthread Netflix said something about new As Ever products being released seasonally. So I would imagine season 2 will be autumn/winter foods to coincide with those products being for sale - cinnamon cookies, pumpkin stuff, thanksgiving & Christmas type food maybe, some fun kids' Christmas treats. With the hosting stuff focusing on holiday parties, gift wrapping etc.

Obviously I've no actual idea, that's just my guess.

It's a really good guess. There will some pumpkin spice tut I expect. I always forget how massive Halloween is in the US.

JADS · 08/03/2025 18:30

Wildflowers99 · 08/03/2025 16:47

Also, who buys jam in ‘keepsake packaging’? 🤔

I don't know if it's just me, but the small e in ever really irks me for some reason. I do think she should have just called the range With Love, Meghan. It makes so much sense. She has the @ meghan handle on insta. She could aim to be known just by her first name.

IdaGlossop · 08/03/2025 18:45

JADS · 08/03/2025 18:30

I don't know if it's just me, but the small e in ever really irks me for some reason. I do think she should have just called the range With Love, Meghan. It makes so much sense. She has the @ meghan handle on insta. She could aim to be known just by her first name.

Phew. That lower case 'e' has been bugging me since it first thrust itself upon the world Stage. Now I know I'm not alone 😍

Apparently, you can't use the same name for an info-mercial and related products. Using Meghan or By Meghan is so obvious. For not good reasons, she is one of tge few people in the world who can use only her first name knowing pretty much everyone will know it means her.

glitterturd · 08/03/2025 19:25

" Buy Meghan" - yup she's up for sale on anything.

DelectableMe · 08/03/2025 19:39

EsmaCannonball · 08/03/2025 18:02

Oh god, so we're going to have:

Hallowe'en - where Meghan and some minor celebrity she's emailed twice are going to hang strips of fruit out to dry in the sun as a healthy trick or treat gift for some non-existent children.

Thanksgiving - where a group of people Meghan tangentially knows or employs are made to stand round thanking Meghan for being Meghan.

Christmas - where Meghan tries to convince America that Smash (Potato Snow Sprinkles), Paxo (Foraged Herb Sprinkles) and Bisto (Beloved Pet Chicken Who Died In Her Sleep Sprinkles) are all things that Montecito millionaires (and you, dear viewer) can't wait to spend $25 on.

What wonders to look forward to, Esme. I am quite overawed by the possibilities!
On another thread, I have just seen a claim that Meghan gets more clicks than Elon Musk and Trump... I do hope that's true, she does work harder than them.

EasternStandard · 08/03/2025 20:32

@JADS I didn't notice but googled agree on the small e

BemusedAmerican · 08/03/2025 22:59

Wildflowers99 · 08/03/2025 17:05

It’s a cardboard tube. What would you keep in it after Confused it’s very strange.

It's a pricey cat toy. My cats love paper towel and toilet paper tubes.

BasiliskStare · 09/03/2025 01:10

glitterturd · 08/03/2025 19:25

" Buy Meghan" - yup she's up for sale on anything.

@glitterturd - Perhaps her As ever mission statement is "markle it up - sell it on"

MonteShitshow · 09/03/2025 04:44

Wildflowers99 · 08/03/2025 17:05

It’s a cardboard tube. What would you keep in it after Confused it’s very strange.

Spare bog roll when travelling. Handy tip: a few drops of essential oil placed on the inner cardboard tube of the bog roll will elevate the ambience of bog.

glitterturd · 09/03/2025 12:03

@BasiliskStare or " Markle it down" ? I'm sure this mix will end up in Big Lots in the USA.

JADS · 09/03/2025 14:16

IdaGlossop · 08/03/2025 18:45

Phew. That lower case 'e' has been bugging me since it first thrust itself upon the world Stage. Now I know I'm not alone 😍

Apparently, you can't use the same name for an info-mercial and related products. Using Meghan or By Meghan is so obvious. For not good reasons, she is one of tge few people in the world who can use only her first name knowing pretty much everyone will know it means her.

I'm thinking of starting Survivors Club, you are more than welcome to join 😍.

Thank you for the info about infomercials. I'm rather in awe of the knowledge demonstrated by the posters of the RF board. I've learnt so much from H&Ms missteps.

IdaGlossop · 09/03/2025 15:55

JADS · 09/03/2025 14:16

I'm thinking of starting Survivors Club, you are more than welcome to join 😍.

Thank you for the info about infomercials. I'm rather in awe of the knowledge demonstrated by the posters of the RF board. I've learnt so much from H&Ms missteps.

I am now bugged by my own typos (the/tge) and stray caps. Not for nothing was I teased/lauded in my last job for my expertise with the comma. However, I am not launching a global lifestyle brand so my errors have only a small audience.

Yes please, I will join your As Ever Survivors Club.

MidnightTales · 09/03/2025 15:58

Well, I enjoyed your analysis @AtIusvue .

Scary stuff?

What about her constant refrain that this is all for lurve and community? If what you’re saying is true, and it sounds very feasible, people are really being played aren’t they? Such manipulation.

I watched her dreadful interview with Drew Barrymore, and funnily enough I noticed when she was talking about her TV cooking showshow she got an advert in for her brand “As Ever“ as representing her values of hosting, being nice, whatever. She even looked a little bashful as she sneaked that in.

Markle has always been about the side hustle since her Tig days. This is just another version. You could say there’s nothing wrong with that, but the hustle is so disguised in gushingness, yet so blatant, it’s not going to be a good looking true.

Netflix have been going downhill for awhile. Like many, I don’t bother subscribing with them anymore, because their output is such dross. Maybe they are moving into new areas of commerce to maintain their financial position.

It may be successful, to some extent, and Markle might bag a few $ million out of it all, who knows. I doubt it will do much more than that though. I doubt she cares though because, even if it fails, she will just start looking for yet new ways to make money kardashian-style. She’ll never stop.

MidnightTales · 09/03/2025 16:06

“it’s not going to be a good looking true” should have read “it’s not going to be a good look”

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