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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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Mydahliasareshit · 09/03/2025 16:14

Martha Stewart did all this stuff from the 80s onwards.

beachcitygirl · 11/03/2025 03:22

The racism toward this woman by white English daily mail readers on here is palpable

Galdownunder · 11/03/2025 06:38

Bingo! That’s my card full 🤣 and yes I’m white.

DelectableMe · 11/03/2025 06:54

Galdownunder · 11/03/2025 06:38

Bingo! That’s my card full 🤣 and yes I’m white.

😂how very dare you be white! 😂
I'm thinking this must be aimed at Harry. He's the proven racist and reads the Daily Mail. Plus their PR send the DM stories, so ....🙄

glitterturd · 11/03/2025 15:46

This thread seems to be suffering from the same fate as Meghan's show - dropping like a stone.

Hortus · 11/03/2025 19:34

beachcitygirl · 11/03/2025 03:22

The racism toward this woman by white English daily mail readers on here is palpable

It's not racist to say that someone is a vapid, self-obsessed, fame-hungry liar.
I would say the same about her whatever colour she was.
People of colour are just as able to be dreadful people as white people.
Saying negative things about Meghan does not make a person racist when those things are to do with her personality and behaviour, not her colour.
I find it offensive when negative comments about her, when they do not involve her colour, are construed as racism. That does not help the cause of people who actually are the subject of racism.

ShowDownTime · 11/03/2025 21:37

I’m watching it now. Had to after seeing so many spoofs and funny articles about it. It’s very nicely shot but she does say a lot of batshit things and the effort she goes to for an overnight guest is a bit bonkers. Seems it’s more about her than them. And the baggy sleeves while cooking, scraping honey from honeycombs, making wax candles - Meghan can do anything in a baggy sleeve. Now, the friend Daniel - the very dear sole mate Daniel who wasn’t at the wedding - that one, seems entirely baffled by his stay at Meghan’s fake house although he did remember to praise her crudite platter upon arrival. You rather sense if he hadn’t she’d have kicked him out.

ShowDownTime · 11/03/2025 21:55

Oh he said something about her wedding cake so maybe he was there. But anyway it’s all become extremely cringy and Californian and I cba watching episode 2 but still entertaining in its own daft way.

glitterturd · 12/03/2025 00:20

ShowDownTime · 11/03/2025 21:55

Oh he said something about her wedding cake so maybe he was there. But anyway it’s all become extremely cringy and Californian and I cba watching episode 2 but still entertaining in its own daft way.

He was at the cake tasting .

ShowDownTime · 12/03/2025 07:24

At the cake tasting but not at the wedding? Yikes.

glitterturd · 12/03/2025 09:51

I believe he did the make up for her wedding day and he was also at her baby shower. Seemingly he is called " Uncle Daniel" by the children.

Mylovelygreendress · 12/03/2025 10:00

ShowDownTime · 12/03/2025 07:24

At the cake tasting but not at the wedding? Yikes.

I seem to recall a thread years ago where the bride wanted her friend to do all sorts of things including decorating the reception venue but wasn’t invited to the wedding !
Sorry for derail.

swimsong · 12/03/2025 11:21

Hortus · 11/03/2025 19:34

It's not racist to say that someone is a vapid, self-obsessed, fame-hungry liar.
I would say the same about her whatever colour she was.
People of colour are just as able to be dreadful people as white people.
Saying negative things about Meghan does not make a person racist when those things are to do with her personality and behaviour, not her colour.
I find it offensive when negative comments about her, when they do not involve her colour, are construed as racism. That does not help the cause of people who actually are the subject of racism.

Subconscious racism exists.

Hortus · 12/03/2025 11:46

swimsong · 12/03/2025 11:21

Subconscious racism exists.

What do you mean and how does it manifest itself?

Surely you can't possibly be saying that if a white person feels dislike towards how a black person behaves, it's not because they dislike the behaviour, it's because they dislike that the person is black, without consciously knowing that's the reason?

Because if you are, that's the biggest load of garbage I've ever heard.
It's tantamount to saying all black people can never do anything wrong, which is patently total and utter crap of the highest order.

pursuitOfSomething · 12/03/2025 12:00

swimsong · 12/03/2025 11:21

Subconscious racism exists.

That poster wasn't saying it didn't.

They were making the point that someone can have some protective characistic - LGBT+, skin colour/ethicity, religion, disablity - and still be a fucking twat based on their behavior.

I'm not sure I'd want a personal or business relationship with the Megan but she's not only high profile person I'd say that about and how much is bad pr and how much is just who she is is frankly impossible to know with no personal connection with her.

I didn't like her show - she lacked "warmth" on camera for me- which is a personal opinion - that could have carried the format and the format seemed a bad fit for time - dated - and service it was on.

It does make more sense as a glossy sales tool as AtIusvue suggests and hopefully for Meghan it connects with people willing to buy the products. Even here I've seen this done on you tube often better. I personally think it's a hard sell with products chosen but clearly the USA is the market she focused on so could easily be wrong there.

AutumnCrowRoyale · 13/03/2025 12:53

What's the actual net profit going to be for MM on each 'As ever' product? Excuse the back-of-fag-packet sums, but I'd be amazed if it's more than 25 cents to her in her pocket per item.

If half of her 2.6 million audience buy one product (a very, very generous estimate) she'd only make in the region of $325k. It hardly seems worth doing. It's not sustainable as a profit-making vehicle for the work involved, for the sort of money she needs.

In business terms, it doesn't 'wash its face'.

As I said, this is a back-of-fag-packet guess. But I just can't see her shifting the units.

User14March · 13/03/2025 13:27

@AutumnCrowRoyale hasn’t she already got the 80 million pounds approx by end of Netflix contract so won’t be bothered? This will take a while to burn through so doesn’t matter? How much approx has this venture made for her?

AutumnCrowRoyale · 13/03/2025 14:14

User14March · 13/03/2025 13:27

@AutumnCrowRoyale hasn’t she already got the 80 million pounds approx by end of Netflix contract so won’t be bothered? This will take a while to burn through so doesn’t matter? How much approx has this venture made for her?

She and 'H' haven't got anywhere near that from Netflix, as has been repeatedly explained with painstaking detail and patience on this board. Their final net earnings from the Netflix quantum, after all the production costs and their own costs including taxes are paid, are probably nearer the $5-10 million mark between them over a five year period.

It's not small change; but it's not the big money they're after, either. It's all about the gross, the margins, and the net.

Mylovelygreendress · 13/03/2025 14:47

AutumnCrowRoyale · 13/03/2025 14:14

She and 'H' haven't got anywhere near that from Netflix, as has been repeatedly explained with painstaking detail and patience on this board. Their final net earnings from the Netflix quantum, after all the production costs and their own costs including taxes are paid, are probably nearer the $5-10 million mark between them over a five year period.

It's not small change; but it's not the big money they're after, either. It's all about the gross, the margins, and the net.

Probably pay their security bill for a year or two !

AutumnCrowRoyale · 13/03/2025 15:05

Mylovelygreendress · 13/03/2025 14:47

Probably pay their security bill for a year or two !

I do wonder if ‘Pa’ pays that. But I agree that they will piss it away on their unnecessarily lavish lifestyle and outgoings in a couple of years. Teams of (legal) gardeners and housekeepers don’t come cheap, for a start, let alone the nonsense of global communications chiefs and global spokespersons for nitpicking.

User14March · 13/03/2025 15:11

AutumnCrowRoyale · 13/03/2025 14:14

She and 'H' haven't got anywhere near that from Netflix, as has been repeatedly explained with painstaking detail and patience on this board. Their final net earnings from the Netflix quantum, after all the production costs and their own costs including taxes are paid, are probably nearer the $5-10 million mark between them over a five year period.

It's not small change; but it's not the big money they're after, either. It's all about the gross, the margins, and the net.

So, to be clear the consensus is she/they’ve netted less than 10 million pounds, optimistically, from the whole project?

IcedPurple · 13/03/2025 15:19

AutumnCrowRoyale · 13/03/2025 14:14

She and 'H' haven't got anywhere near that from Netflix, as has been repeatedly explained with painstaking detail and patience on this board. Their final net earnings from the Netflix quantum, after all the production costs and their own costs including taxes are paid, are probably nearer the $5-10 million mark between them over a five year period.

It's not small change; but it's not the big money they're after, either. It's all about the gross, the margins, and the net.

I agree.

This idea that NF are simply handing over tens of millions for very little return is nonsense, and as you say this has been pointed out numerous times on this board. Do people really think the world's most successful streamer just pisses away money like that?

I also agree that while whatever it is they have netted would be huge money by most people's standards, it's not going to go a long way in Montecito,

IcedPurple · 13/03/2025 15:25

Mylovelygreendress · 13/03/2025 14:47

Probably pay their security bill for a year or two !

I think they might have to be a bit more 'realistic' about their security 'needs'.

The reality is that he is 5th in line and she is peddling flower sprinkles on NF. On the face of it at least, there doesn't appear to be any reason why they need high level security. And that sprawling mansion they're living in looks like it would be a nightmare to secure. If they really think they are high risk individuals, they might have to decide to prioritise either their 'security' or living where they do. I don't see her making millions a year from selling edible flowers online.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 13/03/2025 15:33

Sooner rather later (but hopefully not too soon) William will be king. Then I think will be gloves off and that will be an interesting watch.

William will be the boss.

What will he allow Harry to attend?

Father’s funeral undoubtedly, probably under auntie Anne’s watch. Coronation I very much doubt it.

LipglossAlly · 14/03/2025 16:49

I want people to reply to this question honestly
Why are you so invested in her and her brand, if it's not your cup of tea?
This is the RF forum - why are so many threads allocated to discussing this woman opened on a daily basis?

So many people have decided to form a harsh opinion on a complete stranger whose actions will have zero consequences on their day-to-day life which I find a bit weird in itself.

Seriously, why just not choose to disengage with public figures you dislike?Why even bother watching the content she puts out?

Somebody says that when William will be king...and? What does William becoming king has to do with her?

Meghan is in her home country and will probably never set foot on this Island(I even doubt she will want to attend Charles' funeral) ever again. Her relationship with the RF (and with the UK as well) is definitely closed.Finito. Forever.

Why don't you understand this and just let go?