As Ever #3 As If

[PrettyFlyforaMaiTai]

Another thread to discuss the rebranding of ARO and the merchandising of With Love, Meghan

Part 2: www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5278062-as-ever-2-whatever

I really can't bear M or H but he is definitely the uber-🐓 of the story. I honestly don't think she could have received worse advice if she tried. The drama fest of their lives is hideously addictive, I'm as guilty as the next person. However I truly wonder what the constant scrutiny will do to her. I feel it's going to end badly but I hope she makes it out of this marriage intact with 2 children with self esteem. They will likely be the 2 most famous nepo babies of the next 30 years. I can't help thinking MM has nowhere to go and even if she is the biggest cnut on the planet she doesn't deserve to be eaten alive over decades.

Yes, another lie. She also said that it "made her a good parent" 🙄

I agree, who are her mates? It feels like an isolated life. You need them more in middle age. All very sad really.

Is that word for word? If so I’m speechless. I’ve read the book but must have overlooked that piece of absolute tripe.

The hand on the back thing is awful.
I hate it when people do it to me it's so proprietorial. I DON'T NEED GUIDING THANK YOU stop touching me.

I think it's only appropriate if you are a host welcoming people who don't know where to go.

I have a friend who does this. She also likes to rub my arm in a reassuring way when I don't need reassuring. It makes me want to scream.

To add @PTSDBarbiegirl it might be difficult to have them as parents. A mum like M, IME, might well expect a daughter to be a perfect reflection & transgressions from this punished. There’s a danger you might be afraid. Hopefully Doria will be a huge loving support.

She’s being Mummy to his little boy.

......and flitted through the sacred airspace we call Lili Land, 😨😫😳 In ten years time Lili will be cringing at that, if she grows up to be any kind of normal teenager.

In the highly unlikely event Her Late Majesty's spirit chose to reappear as any animal, it would be a horse or a dog, trotting across the moors at Balmoral. Not a hummingbird in California.

Plus when they visited for the Jubilee we saw an official photograph for Lilli’s birthday but there were no pap photos

Not for lack of trying on H&M's part. Wasn't it said they wanted to bring a film crew to the meeting with the Queen?

Now we know that her products aren’t going to necessarily be from Montecito I wonder where she is actually purchasing her tat from? If she has any sense at all she will make sure they are ethically sourced and that the people who make her products are paid a decent wage and have good working conditions, if she doesn’t she is toast for sure.

I'd agree with this if she was trying to live a quiet life and being hounded.

But while she continues to try to sell herself to us as perfect and aspirational we're going to continue to have an opinion on her efforts.

Someone who really cares about her should have been giving her advice to step back several years ago, but it seems M hasn't yet understood that herself.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, smilesy, but I thought this claim that he'd offered to pay only came up during the RAVEC hearing, and that the Home Office said there was no prior record of him offering this?

To be fair, there was so much tripe in that book, it is easy to miss some.

@itsjustthewayitwas I think so, 2 paragraphs that read and are punctuated as a straight lift from the book.

Link here

www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1054843-prince-harry-was-told-having-hummingbird-at-home-is-sign-after-queen-passing

It's because she doesn't have a long term goal except to be paid to do nothing. So every step she takes is not planned or thought out, she just moulds things in her little brain, spouts some words to say 'the cats out of the bag...been planning for years .... not been able to do this in the past ....' which she probably all made up after she decided on a dumbass plan which, as ever, falls to bits because it's all off the cuff bollocks- she just lies and lies and keeps lying

It's really straight forward; she stops with all the self publicity and fakery. She can go under the radar. Or do something authentic. I'd respect her if she got a job on a soap opera, or advertising home accessories. It's probably what she'd be doing if she hadn't met Harry, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I’ve often wondered where they could live and the type oc home they could have if they weren’t living in their Montecito mansion. And no, I’m not jealous of their home. I’m very fortunate with my own. But just what other type of home could they be living in? What would be fitting for them? And where?

Against my better judgement, I looked at her insta page. Oh my word. The insincerity and fakeness drips from it.

Too late to edit my post, but concerning RAVEC and Harry's "offer to pay for security" I just found this in the Evening Standard among others:

"The Home Office’s written arguments also claim that Harry’s offer of funding was “notably not advanced to Ravec” at the time of the duke’s visit in June 2021, or in any pre-action discussions"

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-duke-of-sussex-mark-sedwill-swift-royal-courts-of-justice-b984731.html

So unless it's the Home Office who are telling porkies it looks as if this was yet another lie designed to make him look better

@sammylady37 is it really any worse than many similar others? Isn’t nearly everything on insta by lifestyle & influencer people pretty much all curated fakery too?

I'm just placemarking while I finish on the other thread!

Ohh puzzled!!! , I'm having a memory moment!!!!
Wasn't there some hoo haa with a paper that pretty much said that his offer to pay came after to make himself look less greedy to the taxpayers??? The sun ??
And didn't he threaten to sue ???
And a judge ruled against it ????

I don’t watch any others tbh, so I don’t know. I expect they’re quite similar though, which is why I don’t watch them in the first place!

I'm no fan of MM, but she did actually graduate from Northwestern and that sweatshirt looks like the official Northwestern one. However, the more interesting question is did MM decide to go to Northwestern because of the famous Diana photo? She was a Diana superfan as a young girl.

Now is a good time for Meghan to suddenly announce she is an expert gardener. Imagine mentioning that over tea with the King (expert gardener) and Kate (exhibit at Chelsea) a few years ago. Much easier to pull the old Monty Don routine wafting about in a Californian garden than being unable to answer questions about green fly on your rosa rubiginosa and the effectiveness of mulch over the cucumber sandwiches.

She's so fake. But she's always been fake. No-one could watch that engagement photocall with the terrible coat and the posing and not think she's completely fake.

I truthfully can't remember all the claims in Harry's case against the Sun, @jeffgoldblum; he's made so many that it's hard to keep track, but in this particular instance I was just thinking of his supposed "offer to pay" and the fact that the Home Office maintained he hadn't

I realise of course that they wouldn't have allowed this anyway, but it's the apparent lie I was focusing on