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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 2025-02-19T15:54:46+00:00

I noticed the old thread is almost full so thought we could start a new one to carry on the discussion about the rebrand and merching. Are you an ‘As Ever’ or ‘Whatever’? link to the old thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5277002-as-ever

FromThePrismOfJammyTodger · 23/02/2025 19:00

cheezy · 23/02/2025 18:19

That Pamela Anderson trailer is so incredibly similar! did she definitely film hers first?

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The PA programme is based on her vegan cookbook, and premiers tomorrow on the Canadian food network, according to Wikipedia.

MissFenellaPrism · 23/02/2025 19:04

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 23/02/2025 18:59

Poor food hygiene 😂 😂 I've ticked that already with the dog at the table.

@Stickystickysticky

Back to the deletion talk. I got deleted for questioning the suicide ideation - having at that time been involved with caring for a very serious metal health crisis of a family member - I criticised their privilege (not the illness, everyone can get ill, but money = treatment) the best the NHS could offer my family member, was to have a bath and have a hot chocolate. On the account they couldn't be left alone a bath was out of the question - and it's hot chocolate not magic. If only we could have afforded in patient treatment.

I symathise 💐.
A few years ago I had a loved one with suicide ideation. It took years to get a referral and treatment which worked. Getting an outreach worker and support was so difficult and stressful. Eventually, an emergency admission enabled her to see a consultant psychiatrist. She's stable, but still not right, and the psychiatrist says that this may take years of therapy and medication.
It is truly terrible, and just being able to have someone on speed dial, or available for advice would have helped.

Aloeveraplants · 23/02/2025 19:07

MaggieMistletoe · 23/02/2025 18:54

I did think until a while ago that it was purely that his pride wouldn't permit him to admit she's a nightmare and the marriage is unhappy. But now I see them more Blake Lively and Ryan Renolds.. a toxic duo who probably have no problem being married to someone who isn't particularly nice. I think H&M feed each others egos, I actually think he likes her well enough to put up with all the chaos, lies and stress. He's thrown everything else away so he'd have to be absolutely desperate not to stick it out and make the best of it at this point.

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I agree

Aloeveraplants · 23/02/2025 19:07

MaggieMistletoe · 23/02/2025 18:44

It really is lie upon lie upon lie. She must have a pathological need to fabricate. Why has she not learnt that a lot of her lies can be disproved easily? How is Harry not mortified by wife constantly being shown up as a liar?

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They are both liars.

smilesy · 23/02/2025 19:11

MissFenellaPrism · 23/02/2025 19:04

I symathise 💐.
A few years ago I had a loved one with suicide ideation. It took years to get a referral and treatment which worked. Getting an outreach worker and support was so difficult and stressful. Eventually, an emergency admission enabled her to see a consultant psychiatrist. She's stable, but still not right, and the psychiatrist says that this may take years of therapy and medication.
It is truly terrible, and just being able to have someone on speed dial, or available for advice would have helped.

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The two things that puzzled me about Meghan’s story were firstly, why couldn’t she find help when she had an expensive maternity package that included access to psychiatric help if necessary, and secondly how did she manage to recover with no apparent help 🤷‍♀️

Aloeveraplants · 23/02/2025 19:13

MaggieMistletoe · 23/02/2025 17:52

This is one of the things about her that is the most unfortunate and disappointing IMO, she has zero understanding or appreciation for culture or anything of high calibre or good taste. She's a vapid, vacuous, empty vessel with the aspirations and life goals of a 13 year old air-head. Can't help but feel if Harry had married someone like Cressida (I'm sure she feels she had a very lucky escape) than she would've had the gumption and wits to appreciate and make use of the incredible honours and opportunities that were given to her on a plate.

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So true.

MissFenellaPrism · 23/02/2025 19:13

smilesy · 23/02/2025 19:11

The two things that puzzled me about Meghan’s story were firstly, why couldn’t she find help when she had an expensive maternity package that included access to psychiatric help if necessary, and secondly how did she manage to recover with no apparent help 🤷‍♀️

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Yes, it makes no sense. Also, if she felt unable to contact her obstetrician and/or midwife for help, why didn't Harry? Why didn't her mum?

BorneoBop · 23/02/2025 19:17

MaggieMistletoe · 23/02/2025 18:44

It really is lie upon lie upon lie. She must have a pathological need to fabricate. Why has she not learnt that a lot of her lies can be disproved easily? How is Harry not mortified by wife constantly being shown up as a liar?

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Her grandiosity and delusion leads to confabulation ..... I dont think she thinks she's lying.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 23/02/2025 19:20

I made a post a while back which I don’t think got deleted where I stated that I never believed she was suicidal, but I’m sure she told Harry she was suicidal as a form of control, just like when men threaten suicide if their wives say they are going to leave them, suicide threats are a classic tool in coercive control and I think that’s what Meghan was doing. I always thought it was quite telling how Harry didn’t react when Jane Pauley brought it up in that really awkward interview, he didn’t look at Meghan he didn’t even flinch let alone hold her hand in sympathy. Be interesting if my post is deleted this time.

BorneoBop · 23/02/2025 19:21

elprup · 22/02/2025 21:43

She does have a lovely voice!

I doubt its feels nice when you are persistently on the end of a tongue lashing in the workplace that reduces you to tears and having to access therapy.

Vespanest · 23/02/2025 19:22

Harry cannot see his or Meghan mistakes as that requires reflection. harry has given up nearly everything so he has to be madly in love or admit he's fucked up. Harry doesn't like being wrong.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 23/02/2025 19:24

Aloeveraplants · 23/02/2025 19:07

I agree

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I agree with @MaggieMistletoe as well, she is exactly as South Park described her, an empty vessel, how anyone thinks she is a highly intelligent woman as is often said by some posters is beyond me, she can’t even do influencing properly.

BorneoBop · 23/02/2025 19:25

BigWillyLittleTodger · 23/02/2025 19:20

I made a post a while back which I don’t think got deleted where I stated that I never believed she was suicidal, but I’m sure she told Harry she was suicidal as a form of control, just like when men threaten suicide if their wives say they are going to leave them, suicide threats are a classic tool in coercive control and I think that’s what Meghan was doing. I always thought it was quite telling how Harry didn’t react when Jane Pauley brought it up in that really awkward interview, he didn’t look at Meghan he didn’t even flinch let alone hold her hand in sympathy. Be interesting if my post is deleted this time.

There was a rumour that MM went into a rage at the end of that interview - due to JP going off script. It makes me feel sick to my stomach that MM's focus in those moments was her own image and not the plight of the numerous familes bereaved by the suicide of their own children.

Aloeveraplants · 23/02/2025 19:26

BigWillyLittleTodger · 23/02/2025 19:20

I made a post a while back which I don’t think got deleted where I stated that I never believed she was suicidal, but I’m sure she told Harry she was suicidal as a form of control, just like when men threaten suicide if their wives say they are going to leave them, suicide threats are a classic tool in coercive control and I think that’s what Meghan was doing. I always thought it was quite telling how Harry didn’t react when Jane Pauley brought it up in that really awkward interview, he didn’t look at Meghan he didn’t even flinch let alone hold her hand in sympathy. Be interesting if my post is deleted this time.

I agree. Why would she tell him at a crucial point when they had to go out and appear in public? When she knew there was nothing he could do .I definitely thought straight away that it was coercive control. She knows which button to press and how to manipulate him. He just doesn’t seem to see it.

User14March · 23/02/2025 19:26

I do fear for M, & hope things improve for her sake. Hopefully those friends in inner circle in Doc have remained in her corner. She has Mum & H.

BorneoBop · 23/02/2025 19:28

User14March · 23/02/2025 19:26

I do fear for M, & hope things improve for her sake. Hopefully those friends in inner circle in Doc have remained in her corner. She has Mum & H.

I do fear for M, & hope things improve for her sake.

I do fear for her family, friends, colleagues and staff & hope things improve for their sake.

IcedPurple · 23/02/2025 19:30

Vespanest · 23/02/2025 19:22

Harry cannot see his or Meghan mistakes as that requires reflection. harry has given up nearly everything so he has to be madly in love or admit he's fucked up. Harry doesn't like being wrong.

Yes, he gave up almost everyone and everything for a woman he had then known for under 4 years. His brother and probably his friends warned him he was rushing into marriage but he wouldn't listen. To admit he may have made a huge mistake would be intolerable for him. So he's stuck with her.

Stickystickysticky · 23/02/2025 19:36

IdaGlossop · 23/02/2025 18:17

You can't unsubscribe. I mischievously wrote to them using the email address you get if you click on Privacy on the website asking about data protection (what they were going to do with my email address sent to ARO last year), why I hadn't received a welcome email from AE and why I can't easily unsubscribe from AE. No reply, of course, or even an automated reply. All of this reinforces the near certainty that nothing is thought through and that AE has been hastily bashed together.

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I emailed them today and am waiting with bated breath for a response.

Aloeveraplants · 23/02/2025 19:41

IcedPurple · 23/02/2025 19:30

Yes, he gave up almost everyone and everything for a woman he had then known for under 4 years. His brother and probably his friends warned him he was rushing into marriage but he wouldn't listen. To admit he may have made a huge mistake would be intolerable for him. So he's stuck with her.

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I do think though that if he was as ready to throw everything away as he seemed to be he must have been fundamentally very unhappy.

User14March · 23/02/2025 19:43

@BorneoBop true, although how much evidence is there really that current staff mistreated? You’d surely simply leave if you could if so?

Also, Suits friends in cast etc & at wedding. She must have been at bare minimum fine on set there for years?

IcedPurple · 23/02/2025 19:45

Aloeveraplants · 23/02/2025 19:41

I do think though that if he was as ready to throw everything away as he seemed to be he must have been fundamentally very unhappy.

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Maybe, but to me it hints more at a controlling relationship.

If you think about it, it's a pretty typical scenario. Step by step she alienated Harry from his friends, his family and finally his country. Now he's on the other side of the world with no support system. According to the VF article, he has struggled to make friends. All he has is her.

LivelyMintViper · 23/02/2025 19:47

NormaMajors1992coat · 23/02/2025 17:56

Here we go, bingo card attached (but I guess there might be the usual photo delay)

I would like to nominate 'authentic" as a bonus point of two.

LivelyMintViper · 23/02/2025 19:48

User14March · 23/02/2025 19:43

@BorneoBop true, although how much evidence is there really that current staff mistreated? You’d surely simply leave if you could if so?

Also, Suits friends in cast etc & at wedding. She must have been at bare minimum fine on set there for years?

Or they were seduced by the prospect of a royal wedding ....

IcedPurple · 23/02/2025 19:50

LivelyMintViper · 23/02/2025 19:48

Or they were seduced by the prospect of a royal wedding ....

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Yes, who's going to turn down an invitation to a royal wedding?

In any case, Meghan had no power on the 'Suits' set so wasn't in a position to be bullying her colleagues.

MissRoseDurward · 23/02/2025 19:53

I do think though that if he was as ready to throw everything away as he seemed to be he must have been fundamentally very unhappy.

If she said she was going with or without him, and taking Archie, what choice did he have? Other than protracted legal proceedings in which no doubt be would have been presented as an unfit father.