As Ever #2 Whatever

[PrettyFlyforaMaiTai]

I noticed the old thread is almost full so thought we could start a new one to carry on the discussion about the rebrand and merching.

Are you an ‘As Ever’ or ‘Whatever’?

link to the old thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5277002-as-ever

I've never done a mood board but I can hand on heart say my carefully curated (not) fridge door is more interesting than that.

It does have a theme- "Postcards and Random Bits of Stuff I Like".

I can imagine them (her?) just continuing this cycle of rebrands, fake tours, instagram posts etc until they drop from the sheer fruitless exhaustion of it, like some kind of episode from Black Mirror or Groundhog Day (without the personal growth).

@Uricon2 I think it’s about manifesting, somehow she’s very young for age.

Interesting, wouldn't be surprised if manifesting was thing for her. Not that it has worked out marvellously so far.

Honestly she’d be better doing instagram advertisements. Make it all about her.

What make up and skin care products she uses to get that amazing glow. How she tackles her naturally Afro American hair. What she eats in a day. What she swears by. Lots of outfits of the day from high profile brands (even mixing it up with high street clothes that are more attainable).

Get a podcast out about the day in a life of a Duchess, discussing her view point on the big issues of the day (she will get lambasted for it but she gets lambasted for everything, better to be passionate and get her view across and if she becomes infamous enough people will hate listen). Talk about this cute little Italian restaurant that she and Harry found that you just ‘have’ to visit, talk about the struggles and joys of motherhood (I believe she could have had post natal depression - that would be interesting to talk about in depth), trying to help Archie with his homework and not understanding it, trying to keep up with Lili when she’s a mum in her 40s. Tell hilarious anecdotes about when Harry did this, how they tried to roast a chicken and almost set the kitchen on fire etc. Talk about the stigma of grieving for a pet and give us some cute stories about Guy:

I don’t understand why she doesn’t do this. It’s easy money! People are interested in her; even if it’s to hate watch. People were interested in the their Netflix documentary. People are interested in her clothes and beauty/fitness regime. If they don’t want to slag off the royal family any more they need to open themselves up a bit more, because their ventures are dull and lack originality. We want the tea, not the jam.

@PrettyFlyforaMaiTai
I agree that's what she should have done, but whether it's too late now hmmm I'm not sure.

I even think Spare could have been far more lighthearted (and not with that name it should have been "Harry". If he had told interesting things about the RF very discreetly about their traditions, the history of some of the palaces, properties and all their little quirks it may actually have been an interesting read.
Giving a glimpse into that type of life but still respectful of his relations.

The trouble is she needs to have a sense of humour and a lightness of touch to pull all that off. She’s heavy and self aggrandising, always trying to lecture and patronise. She needs to come across as relatable, funny and quirky. I think she’s trying to do that but she is too narcissistic and self satisfied to make it work.

She's not authentic, and people don't like that. Also, a victim narrative when you're so rich and privileged is hard to pull off. Coupled with the lies they've been caught out with, and monetising the privacy of others, makes them a very unattractive pair.

@friendlycat I do wonder if naming it Spare hasn't helped their profile.

I mean you are announcing to the world that you aren't the important one.

@PrettyFlyforaMaiTai she needs to employ you.

Meghan’s intelligent & other wealthy/influential women do similar with success. I feel, unfortunately for her, she’s so lacking in self awareness (personality disorder)? She’ll never do this. That said, The Tig was successful in part because we caught a glimpse of her authentic self. If she showed this again she’d make a bit of happier progress I think?

Grandiose, delusional and fake persona to the outside world.

Serial bully behind closed doors to family, friends, colleagues and staff.

Classic Narc.

What's not to love.

But it could all have been written in a jolly style with a positive spin and therein lies their problem. They started off with complete negativity that has just stuck.

The Tig has 3 million followers and cleared about 80k (not sure if USD or GBP) and was at the beginning of the celeb Instagram arc.
If she hadn't met Harry I can't see how it would have grown that much bigger - or stayed at that level- there are loads of influencers that were bigger than that which have almost disappeared.

@Uricon2 I think it’s a case, re: any manifesting, of ‘be careful what you wish for’. A previous board might have had ‘first date: Prince Harry, ‘always leave them wanting more’ so construct excuse to leave early (NB: ‘The Rules’) he’ll never see through & he’ll be forever smitten as I am out of his league looks wise & impressing mates with beautiful woman v important to him as he sees himself as a plain ginger’ TICK…etc…

Marriage of dreams, Mansion in Montecito, beautiful kids x2. TICK…

Then maybe you begin to have to deal with the Devil when you push it? Esp if only & really about You & nothing more.

She was also leaving Suits regardless if she hadn’t met Harry. Her character was being written out because her co star who played her husband/partner was leaving.

So I suspect the insta stuff would have died a death because she no longer had a profile.

Let's be honest here - who had ever heard of the Tig before M hooked up with Harry?
Certainly not myself - in fact I hadn't even heard of MM before she hooked up with Harry and I spend two months a year in the USA.

@RecoIIectionsMayVary staying at same level poss I think (?) she’d also have always married ‘well’ to someone ‘famous’ (apparently important). There are others with podcasts out there etc but they’ve other strings to bow now, unashamed ‘Tiger Moms’ etc, some very interesting. She doesn’t want to let others beyond a facade it seems, a constructed reality. If she did I feel ‘something’ would stick & fly.

As for"' the Tig would have gone on to be Goop if she had continued" there's at least one major difference. People had heard of GP.

Whatever she plans on doing, it will be US based. The problem now is Harry’s status. They are releasing some documents about his visa. I don’t think there will be massive amounts of private info unless the courts allow it though.

I know everyone says that he won’t be deported etc. But how much of a stretch is it really- when Trump lies about Ukraine, could invade Greenland, remove millions from Gaza, take back the Panama Canal, abandon European allies, declare himself king and serve more than two terms.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14419743/amp/prince-harry-visa-records-drug-use.html

I dont think Trump will deport PH as he wouldnt want to piss off the RF. But it wouldnt surprise me if he dug dirt or made up shit about MM.

@friendlycat nail on head on the negativity,

Victoria Beckham gracefully stopped an interview once by saying ‘I am really sorry but I don’t do negativity’. Whatever you think of VB she does couple ambition with wit & flair.

I wonder how Harry would be faring now if he’d married Cressida or Chelsy?

I don’t think Trump cares at all about the RF. He’s completely abandoned his European allies. He doesn’t give a rats ass about the British monarchy or anybody…..unless it makes him money. The man is deranged.

I wonder? The relationship with Chelsey seemed quite long and enduring, didn't it? However, she didn't want a royal role, so they split up.
Ironic.

Bravo to all the JB parodies! I especially love the Joan Hunter Dunne one. @User14March

Can anyone make anything of Hunter Trials?

It' awfully bad luck on poor Harry
His ponies have swallowed their bits...

@Words I did try first, you’ve read my mind. Hunter Trials is fab & not well known enough, I put it on the map at our Primary!