As Ever #2 Whatever

[PrettyFlyforaMaiTai]

I noticed the old thread is almost full so thought we could start a new one to carry on the discussion about the rebrand and merching.

Are you an ‘As Ever’ or ‘Whatever’?

link to the old thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5277002-as-ever

I'm not sure I agree. He was clearly very pleased to be given a state dinner at BP in 2018 and met with PW in Paris before Macron.

@Words

’Nacho fished down their throats with a spanner & I frightened them into fits’…

Meh, it’s a photo opportunity for him. He has no loyalty to anyone. Only money.

I think I might prefer the Daisy Duke wearing, sweary, burgerloving, winedrinking Meghan who wanted to use a saucy title for some project to preachy, twee, teaparty holding, look at my oh-so-expensive-but-tasteful new bling Meghan, actually. It might just be another in a series of poses but at least has the appearance of authenticity.

Metamorphosising reinventions of yourself are all very well if you're David Bowie and it's a creative process, but I don't think he ever really thought he was Aladdin Sane or the Thin White Duke. I'm not sure the "real" Meghan could stand up now.

I think Harry likes to present that narrative of his ex girlfriend's not wanting a royal role, so they ditched him, , but I wonder if the split with Chelsea was more to do with his cheating and Chelsea finally calling it a day, they were off and on for years. He was the one who broke up with Cressida, apparently she was blindsided and upset about it.

Political Trump is separate from Trump himself, the Trump who is very faithful to his mother's Scottish roots. That Trump was thrilled to meet the late Queen and has already said more complimentary things about William and Charles than about most other public figures. Personal Trump would love another State visit.

Re Meghan and Trump

Does anyone else spot some similarities?

Grandiosity
Self delusion
Obsessive need for fame wealth and constant adulation
Bullying
Rules don't apply to them
Total lack of self awareness
Uncouth and rude
Telling of obvious and outrageous lies
Alienates former friends and associates...

@User14March

@Words can you polish/finish?

Just look at Meghan on Netflix!
She’s made Polo SO down to earth
It’s really NOT such a puzzle
She simply does’t merit the mirth

I say Meghan there’s Cambiaso!
And doesn’t he look like a MAN!
I bet it’s because his pony
Has been secretly on artisan jam

Good points. Could be.

Also re the mood board.

Why on earth would you put up pictures from your old business when you’re trying to start a new brand. It’s confusing, it doesn’t make any sense? She never did this with ARO. Why put two names out there?
Could be as some sort of clap back that she does have experience in this lifestyle market but that’s just embarrassing. Also shows she’s rattled and worried the brand can’t stand alone on its own merits. From a branding point of view, I’ve never seen anything like it- promoting your new brand by heavily referencing your old brand that no one remembers and doesn’t exist anymore.

I think in reality, it might be her easing into going back to the Tig name when As ever goes tits up. Because I seriously can’t see how she can move forward with the As ever name.

I think she will keep the logo though and just rebrand to the Tig. She will release an insta video saying on reflection, the Tig just feels a more natural fit and while she’s proud of the As ever name, she wants to be authentically herself. Which she wasn’t allowed to be last week.

He also doesn’t give a rats ass about Scotland. Being Scottish, I understand this.

I also understand the lies he told to be able to build his golf courses. I also understand his gripe against wind turbines….all goes back them spoiling his view on his Aberdeen golf course.

He loves a photo opportunity sure but he has no love for the UK, it’s people or the monarchy.

It's all about HER isn't it? 🙄

I wouldn't presume @User14March ! Love it.
Maybe if you let it brew a little ?

PS it is gems of interaction like this that makes me still love MN !

I didn't mean that he cares about being Scottish, he cares about his mum and through her wants to own parts of Scotland.

I don't think he loves the monarchy but I think he believes that State visits in the UK give him a status. I'm pretty sure he would love to travel in a gold coach in the US.

What I'm trying to explain, badly, is that is not about him respecting others but how he thinks they amplify his status by association. Does that make more sense?

It would have been so much better to have just called it The Tig from the start.

True. Would have saved her from much of the ridicule and embarrassment.

@User14March

Oh go on then.
Lame attempt
Final verse:

Oh wasn't my pony naughty
Mummy Meghan I'm sick with disgust
He threw me in front of the film crew
And my silly old todger's bust

@Words & my silly sore todgers all bust :)

Not been right since 8 hour cream after all….

@Aloeveraplants yes, I get the impression she thinks she is better than the majority of us. She likes to preach and is very sanctimonious. She has no sense of humour and is very serious, a control freak perfectionist.

She needs to tell anecdotes where she is the butt of the joke or something that happened where she caused the chaos/problem and doesn’t try to deflect or get defensive about it.

I always enjoyed the anecdote that she was so poor as a working actress that she couldn’t fix her broken car door and had to climb in and out of it via the boot. That’s relatable and authentic. I’d love a post about this being her fifth pan of jam as she burned the previous attempts and laughing that jam making isn’t for amateurs.

I've just seen that 'mood board'.

What did I say in the last thread? 2009 vibes.

So when she complained about being 'silenced' in the royal family what she really meant there was some great conspiracy to stop her using her 'voice' to talk about farm fresh eggs and carrots two ways?

Yip- I’ve seen people write about the mood board: basic bitch; wine mum; tumblr 2000s; her live, laugh, love era.

She has printed out pictures from the Tig from 2013! She has the name the Tig five times across the board, yet her new business As ever only three ?
It makes zero sense.

Also why is she printing out old photos of past dinners/lunches….when she’s had a year to be creating such images. New images. Up to date images. It’s so lazy to make half the board about stuff from 12 years ago.

But that’s what’s making me think that Tig is going to get launched…..again.

Yes. She was silenced so much that she never made speeches or talked to people, or wrote for Vogue! It's criminal.

!00% - think both have NPD - they damage a lot of people along the way - add in hypersensitive to percieved slights, holding grudges and seeking revenge.

Also, doesn't a lot of weed smoking lead to paranoia?