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H and M - an American dynasty as an offshoot from the British Royal Family

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mids2019 · 05/01/2025 06:19

Thinking long term about H and Me lives and their children's lives where is the funding going to come from and is there a serious risk of the funding drying up? I especially think of the children who I would expect would go to a private US school and ultimately will be US citizens perhaps pursuing US jobs. There is huge competition for celebrity status in the US and no nobility as such so how do they for in? Does the link to the RF quickly become an irrelevance ?

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Radionowhere · 05/01/2025 10:43

Thedom · 05/01/2025 10:21

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Good article.
I don't think Charles is strong enough to deal with the Harry situation. William will I think. I wonder if there could already be a plan in place in the event of the death of both Charles and William? Undisclosed unless required so as not to give Harry something else to complain about, and the oxygen of publicity.

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 10:45

Not2identifying · 05/01/2025 10:42

I hadn't thought about the fact that just as the biggest money spinner for H & M is when they talk about the Royal Family, so the biggest money spinner for A & L will be dishing on their parents.

Now that will be a significant risk, I think!

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 10:45

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 10:39

No it wasn't. Read the released papers, it's a fascinating story. They were less worried about Wallis' previous marriages than their friendship with Ribbentrop. (Not that the divorces issue wasn't important, but the alarms were all about the relationship with the Nazi party).

I'm sure there were other underlying motivations. But the.constitutional element is the most relevant here and it was an actual rule.

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 10:45

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 10:45

Now that will be a significant risk, I think!

Meghan leads by example.

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 10:46

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 10:45

I'm sure there were other underlying motivations. But the.constitutional element is the most relevant here and it was an actual rule.

A law. Parliament makes laws. Not the Monarch.
Anyway, it's absolutely fascinating.

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 10:46

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 10:45

Meghan leads by example.

She does indeed.

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 10:47

Radionowhere · 05/01/2025 10:43

Good article.
I don't think Charles is strong enough to deal with the Harry situation. William will I think. I wonder if there could already be a plan in place in the event of the death of both Charles and William? Undisclosed unless required so as not to give Harry something else to complain about, and the oxygen of publicity.

You're right, I think.

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 10:47

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 10:46

A law. Parliament makes laws. Not the Monarch.
Anyway, it's absolutely fascinating.

What law are they going to make? No utter twats can acceed the throne presumably. That would be useful as it could apply to Andrew too.

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 10:48

I always wonder what Harry and Meghan would do if someone else told their side of the story?
Camilla, Anne or Sophie? They won't of course, and Harry knows that.

Radionowhere · 05/01/2025 10:49

Not2identifying · 05/01/2025 10:42

I hadn't thought about the fact that just as the biggest money spinner for H & M is when they talk about the Royal Family, so the biggest money spinner for A & L will be dishing on their parents.

Gosh, yes! And dishing on your parents is unthinkable for most but with the example they've been set...

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 10:51

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 10:47

What law are they going to make? No utter twats can acceed the throne presumably. That would be useful as it could apply to Andrew too.

Yes. The provisions will have been drawn up for both men - perhaps without the wording "utter twats"😂

Mylazycatspyjamas · 05/01/2025 10:52

If it’s true about the children being home educated, those poor children will be kept in a complete bubble . It’s so unhealthy.

CathyorClaire · 05/01/2025 10:54

Thinking long term about H and Me lives and their children's lives where is the funding going to come from and is there a serious risk of the funding drying up?

I think they're being 'looked after' already and will continue to be just like the disgraced uncle.

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 10:57

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 10:51

Yes. The provisions will have been drawn up for both men - perhaps without the wording "utter twats"😂

Removing from the line of succession in advance would be easier obviously but still interesting.

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 10:59

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 10:48

I always wonder what Harry and Meghan would do if someone else told their side of the story?
Camilla, Anne or Sophie? They won't of course, and Harry knows that.

Yes. They can't tell Archie and Lillibet that they should be discreet though otherwise that would mean they are hypocrites....oh wait...

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 11:00

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 10:57

Removing from the line of succession in advance would be easier obviously but still interesting.

Yes, I agree, but using the term "utter twats" far more entertaining! 😂

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 11:00

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 10:59

Yes. They can't tell Archie and Lillibet that they should be discreet though otherwise that would mean they are hypocrites....oh wait...

True! 🤣

IcedPurple · 05/01/2025 11:01

Mylazycatspyjamas · 05/01/2025 10:52

If it’s true about the children being home educated, those poor children will be kept in a complete bubble . It’s so unhealthy.

I thought Archie was attending a nursery in Montecito?

Although he's 5 now, so surely time for 'big school'?

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 11:01

CathyorClaire · 05/01/2025 10:54

Thinking long term about H and Me lives and their children's lives where is the funding going to come from and is there a serious risk of the funding drying up?

I think they're being 'looked after' already and will continue to be just like the disgraced uncle.

I read that the King has created Trust Funds for Archie and Lilibet.
However, I think they can kiss goodbye to any money from the Duchy of Cornwall...

IcedPurple · 05/01/2025 11:05

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 11:01

I read that the King has created Trust Funds for Archie and Lilibet.
However, I think they can kiss goodbye to any money from the Duchy of Cornwall...

The bit about the trust funds is surely just guesswork. Nobody has a clue what the King is doing with his private funds.

I don't think they'd ever have been eligible for anything from the Duchy of Cornwall, as it's meant to fund the Prince of Wales and his family, which doesn't include his adult brother and his children. If Harry and Meghan had stayed as working royals they'd be funded from the Duchy of Lancaster now.

I doubt the Sussex kids will ever want for anything materially. But being cut off from almost all family on both sides is not a healthy way to grow up, however 'toxic' they may say they are.

MagdaLenor · 05/01/2025 11:08

It is guess work, @IcedPurple . You're right.
I was actually making a joke about the Duchy of Cornwall!
Good point about the Sussex kids being cut off.

EdithWeston · 05/01/2025 11:16

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 10:37

The rule was he had to abdicate to marry a divorcee. That's the tradition. Same as no Catholic spouses and in those days they followed the rules. He had to chose and he did.

He had been hoping, IIRC, to persuade the government that a morganatic marriage would be acceptable.

I do sometimes wonder what might have happened if he hadn't been so bull-headed, had not forced the issue and had simply kept her as a mistress.

EdithWeston · 05/01/2025 11:21

The Queen offered Meghan the patronage of the National Theatre and she turned it down, fgs

She did not turn it down. I don't remember her doing much in the role (but she wasn't around for very long, and was on maternity leave for a fair chunk of that short time). The role was removed after they'd been away for a year, and Camilla became the new patron.

Unsurprisingly, she wasn't a particular success in that very short time, but the NT said they were happy with her.

The National Theatre Boss Reveals Truth About Patron Meghan Rift | Tatler

JaninaDuszejko · 05/01/2025 11:27

Radionowhere · 05/01/2025 10:43

Good article.
I don't think Charles is strong enough to deal with the Harry situation. William will I think. I wonder if there could already be a plan in place in the event of the death of both Charles and William? Undisclosed unless required so as not to give Harry something else to complain about, and the oxygen of publicity.

The plan in the event of Charles and William's deaths will be George as King. That's not a secret. And if what you're meaning is who would be regent if George is King while still a child that would be one or more of the Councillors of State. The Regency Act was amended in 2022 to include The Princess Royal and The Duke of Edinburgh (then The Earl of Wessex), I'm sure if both Charles and William died before George reached 21 then it would be amended again to include Catherine so she could act as Regent. And there's already provision so that in practice, only working Members of the Royal Family are called upon to act as Counsellors of State so excluding Harry and Andrew.

EdithWeston · 05/01/2025 11:30

Radionowhere · 05/01/2025 10:43

Good article.
I don't think Charles is strong enough to deal with the Harry situation. William will I think. I wonder if there could already be a plan in place in the event of the death of both Charles and William? Undisclosed unless required so as not to give Harry something else to complain about, and the oxygen of publicity.

What will happen is that George will become King.

If he is still very young, but over 18, then it will be up to him to decide who are his key advisers. And so the planning would be to ensure he has suitable, reliable people around him (Anne, Edward and a non-controversial former PM such as John Major)

If under 18, a regent will need to be appointed. Normally it would be the next adult in the succession, but Harry is not UK resident, Andrew is just unacceptable, and the York princesses are not working royals so would bring nothing useful to the role.

So I think the behind-the-scenes work would be to get all the Counsellors of State to petition Parliament to install the Princess Royal and the Duke of Edinburgh as co-regents, with the widowed Princess of Wales retaining responsibility for his upbringing and education