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The royal family

Royals at Remembrance events 2024

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 09/11/2024 19:24

Catherine and William at the Royal Albert Hall tonight. Anne is also in attendance.

Royals at Remembrance events 2024
Royals at Remembrance events 2024
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DappledThings · 10/11/2024 17:19

AllLopsided · 10/11/2024 17:07

@DappledThings we are off topic with this and I didn't hear the Remembrance concert either but I don't really understand your comment:

"I didn't see it but generally any singer from any secular tradition ruins any sacred music. See Abide With Me at every FA Cup Final and Bryn Terfel at the coronation. Just dreadful."

Most classical singers have careers in both opera and concert, and probably some chamber music (song) as well. This is reflected in their training. Many are equally good in concerts, singing masses and requiems and other religious-or semi-religious themed works (eg The Creation, Messiah, The Dream of Gerontius, L'enfance du Christ) as they are in opera and secular song (Schubert, Wolf, Fauré, Quilter, Vaughan Williams, etc). Some of these started their musical lives as choristers and/or (later on) professional singers in cathedrals or bigger churches/chapels with a strong tradition of sung services. I can't remember what Bryn Terfel sang at the Coronation but he is a prime example of a singer who is equally good in opera and concert. I agree with you about Abide with me though (which is originally a congregational hymn, not meant to be sung as a solo anyway).

It was a Kyrie. Warbly and operatic from the starr. Totally inappropriate style and typical of anyone with opera training attempting sacred music. They just can't help the warble.

loobylou10 · 10/11/2024 17:22

mythbuster88 · 10/11/2024 07:40

The make-up is less glam and more drag.

What a nasty thing to say. Horrible.

mythbuster88 · 10/11/2024 17:53

loobylou10 · 10/11/2024 17:22

What a nasty thing to say. Horrible.

It's an opinion based on observation. Much like every other comment on this thread, including your own.

fedup33 · 10/11/2024 17:55

The comment is a bit spikey but really it's sad to see somebody like this in public out of duty. Like the late Queen, it was pitiful to see her.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 10/11/2024 18:03

All this bitchiness about Catherine’s appearance dressed up as faux concern from all these supposedly new posters to royal family section.

JawsCushion · 10/11/2024 18:07

smilesy · 10/11/2024 17:16

Why not? Maybe she felt like being there. You don’t have to be 100% fighting for to feel like joining in with a bit of normality. It’s good for you sanity. My DH is wheelchair bound and will never recover full health but he still
like to go out now and again even though it is a huge logistical nightmare. Are you saying he shouldn’t 🤷‍♀️

She's not saying that at all. I think she's saying she would have understood if Catherine dint come back at all until she was feeling 100%.

smilesy · 10/11/2024 18:11

JawsCushion · 10/11/2024 18:07

She's not saying that at all. I think she's saying she would have understood if Catherine dint come back at all until she was feeling 100%.

Oh ok. It wasn’t clear to me. Sorry if that was the case. But I still stand by the fact that you don’t have to feel 100% to want to do
something that resembles normality. It makes you feel like you are progressing

loobylou10 · 10/11/2024 18:12

@mythbuster88 yes you carry on spouting your 'opinions based on observations'. I'm sure your comments make you feel better. Sad really.

Uricon2 · 10/11/2024 18:14

Currently not looking my best due in large part to factors beyond my control (and age )

Seeing Kate making an effort so she could be there for the Remembrance commemorations after what has objectively been a horrible year for her spurred me on to at least apply my eyebrows, thus slightly decreasing my resemblance to the ghost of a naked mole rat (Google them, they're sort of cute. Just not aspirational as a human)

That woman can't win. If she didn't show up there'd be speculation she was ill. She shows up looking in the peak of health, she was never ill at all. She makes up so she looks as good as poss and that's wrong too. It's like bloody March all over again.

AllLopsided · 10/11/2024 18:15

It was a Kyrie. Warbly and operatic from the starr. Totally inappropriate style and typical of anyone with opera training attempting sacred music. They just can't help the warble.

It was a Kyrie commissioned for the occasion (a rather grand one!) and probably written specifically for Bryn Terfel. Maybe the composer (and the commissioner) intended it to sound like that? If they'd wanted a purer sound they could have asked one of the (adult) choir members to sing it. I agree Terfel would not sound so good in a small church singing the male solo verse of Darke's 'In the bleak midwinter', for example.

Again, most classical singers train for both opera and oratorio. They might focus more on a certain period (opera by Purcell wouldn't be sung in the same style as opera by Verdi). No-one would expect the Kyrie from Verdi's Requiem to be sung in the same manner as a Kyrie by Byrd or Smith, so saying Terfel's vocal style is inappropriate for a Kyrie means nothing.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 10/11/2024 18:20

That woman can't win. If she didn't show up there'd be speculation she was ill. She shows up looking in the peak of health, she was never ill at all. She makes up so she looks as good as poss and that's wrong too. It's like bloody March all over again.

This bears repeating, also if she hadn’t shown up she would have been called lazy, nothing but nothing she does will be right in certain posters eyes, anything to beat her over the head with and always dressed up as concern, so transparent.

Spectre8 · 10/11/2024 18:21

BigWillyLittleTodger · 10/11/2024 18:03

All this bitchiness about Catherine’s appearance dressed up as faux concern from all these supposedly new posters to royal family section.

Much like the bitchniness of others dressed up as faux criticism

DappledThings · 10/11/2024 18:22

AllLopsided · 10/11/2024 18:15

It was a Kyrie. Warbly and operatic from the starr. Totally inappropriate style and typical of anyone with opera training attempting sacred music. They just can't help the warble.

It was a Kyrie commissioned for the occasion (a rather grand one!) and probably written specifically for Bryn Terfel. Maybe the composer (and the commissioner) intended it to sound like that? If they'd wanted a purer sound they could have asked one of the (adult) choir members to sing it. I agree Terfel would not sound so good in a small church singing the male solo verse of Darke's 'In the bleak midwinter', for example.

Again, most classical singers train for both opera and oratorio. They might focus more on a certain period (opera by Purcell wouldn't be sung in the same style as opera by Verdi). No-one would expect the Kyrie from Verdi's Requiem to be sung in the same manner as a Kyrie by Byrd or Smith, so saying Terfel's vocal style is inappropriate for a Kyrie means nothing.

I wouldn't expect any Kyrie to be sung with operatic warbles. Verdi or Byrd or Tallis or our own church's music director or either of the Tave(r)ners.

It is inappropriate to me that it was done as a performance at all with all his hugging himself as he was singing. Should have been only the choir singing all of it. The gospel choir they had as well were fab though. A very different style of sacred music but still an appropriate sacred rather than secular style.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 10/11/2024 18:29

Spectre8 · 10/11/2024 18:21

Much like the bitchniness of others dressed up as faux criticism

The difference is regular posters don’t name change and pretend to be new they stand by what they say, it’s up to you if you perceive critical posts to be bitchy 🤷🏻‍♀️ no one cares.

JuliaLivilla · 10/11/2024 18:59

@Uricon2 "I honestly think Jane Seymour bathes in virgins blood/has a picture in an attic somewhere/both. She looks absolutely amazing and if she's had surgery, it is extraordinary."
I recently watched Harry Wild and couldn't get over how fabulous Jane Seymour looks. I honestly couldn't work out why. There's such an air of self confidence and self acceptance about her, as if she lives life solely on her own terms.

mythbuster88 · 10/11/2024 19:45

@loobylou10 You are aware that I neither need your permission nor approval to post. Also, why would my post make me feel better? An odd conclusion. Does posting on MN have some medicinal effect on you? If so, then sad would be a well-placed word.

loobylou10 · 10/11/2024 19:50

@mythbuster88 'Does posting on MN have some medicinal effect on you? If so, then sad would be a well-placed word.' I'm not sure what you're on about actually because that makes no sense whatsoever, but saying someone who has/is going through a cancer battle has make up that 'looks like drag' is disgusting.

mythbuster88 · 10/11/2024 20:23

@loobylou10 Well if an opinion on a person’s choice of makeup is able to disturb your sensibilities then perhaps MN is not the forum for you. In fact, with that delicate a nature the wider world may be a challenge. Incidentally, what offends you about drag? And should the many drag artists out there be offended by that?

loobylou10 · 10/11/2024 20:24

@mythbuster88 👍

Lifestooshort71 · 10/11/2024 20:27

mythbuster88 · 10/11/2024 20:23

@loobylou10 Well if an opinion on a person’s choice of makeup is able to disturb your sensibilities then perhaps MN is not the forum for you. In fact, with that delicate a nature the wider world may be a challenge. Incidentally, what offends you about drag? And should the many drag artists out there be offended by that?

😲😲😲

loobylou10 · 10/11/2024 20:34

@Lifestooshort71 🤔 🤣🤣

Itoldyousoo · 10/11/2024 21:32

Urgh some really nasty nobodies on here - they must have a really sad life to have an outlook like they do.

Spectre8 · 10/11/2024 21:42

BigWillyLittleTodger · 10/11/2024 18:29

The difference is regular posters don’t name change and pretend to be new they stand by what they say, it’s up to you if you perceive critical posts to be bitchy 🤷🏻‍♀️ no one cares.

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Eem what has the person's name who posts go to do with it. It's itchiness being dressed up as something else, doesn't matter who does it.

Manypaws · 10/11/2024 22:03

Her hair was beautiful but I thought she looked very tired

Manypaws · 10/11/2024 22:06

Spectre8 · 10/11/2024 08:49

We could all have hair like that through extensions etc. So nothing to be envious or jealous about.

That just comes across as incredibly petty

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