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The Guardian: Prince Harry at 40

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TallerSally · 14/09/2024 10:32

Somewhat more even-keeled coverage of Prince Harry at 40 from Caroline Davies at The Guardian.

Arguably understated quite a few of Harry's recent achievements, eg Spare being the 2023 Nr 1 UK bestseller, or the phenomenal growth of Harry's Invictus Games which will now have 25 countries participating in Whistler/Vancouver February 2025. Little or no mention of the numerous awards Harry has won, eg most recently his ESPY Pat Tilman Award for Service and being named a Living Legend of Aviation, etc.

Anyway, nice to see an attempt at painting a more balanced, perhaps less hysterically rabidly negative picture...

Enjoy!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/sep/14/prince-harry-at-40-the-difference-a-decade-has-made-to-the-dukes-life

Prince Harry at 40: the difference a decade has made to the duke’s life

Living among film stars and estranged from his father and brother, Harry’s milestone birthday may bring moment of reflection

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/sep/14/prince-harry-at-40-the-difference-a-decade-has-made-to-the-dukes-life

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Hoopper · 16/09/2024 12:52

SonicTheHodgeheg · 16/09/2024 12:48

Didn’t they send Meghan birthday wishes for her 40th or have I remembered incorrectly ? If so, most people would have expected birthday greetings for Harry’s 40th too.

Yes they did.

Not sure that any birthday wishes went the other way though maybe someone can check?

Americanpseudoroyaltorture · 16/09/2024 13:03

SonicTheHodgeheg · 16/09/2024 12:48

Didn’t they send Meghan birthday wishes for her 40th or have I remembered incorrectly ? If so, most people would have expected birthday greetings for Harry’s 40th too.

Yes they did. It's RF practice to wish non working royals a happy birthday for significant numbers.

PoppysAunt · 16/09/2024 13:03

Also, talking of the "Brutish media", hasn't Harry been emailing The People about his plans?
That seems to be their primary organ of choice.

Americanpseudoroyaltorture · 16/09/2024 13:14

Catherine and William both turned 40 in 2022 (January and June respectively). I don't remember seeing anything from the Sussexes.

Funny how Meghan is older than them all, but is always talked about as if she's much younger ("the young couple" etc).

Americanpseudoroyaltorture · 16/09/2024 13:16

PoppysAunt · 16/09/2024 13:03

Also, talking of the "Brutish media", hasn't Harry been emailing The People about his plans?
That seems to be their primary organ of choice.

People Magazine, a US publication (The People is part of Reach/Mirror Group in the UK). Yes they let slip that he emailed them direct.

TallerSally · 16/09/2024 15:39

Hoopper · 16/09/2024 14:04

This is a really interesting analysis of how various media are all connected.

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Hmmmm.... she sounds to me just like any other M&H-hating conspiracy theorist... parading pseudo-facts and opinions as if they were gospel.

No offence, but it feels like a bit of a rabbit-hole for those with time to spare... though it's fascinating to see how people can build entire multi-layered, multi-year narratives out of next to nothing... and base entire YouTube channels (and ad revenue) around them!

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Americanpseudoroyaltorture · 16/09/2024 15:58

Ooh, Shauna's touched a nerve! She's very well read and an excellent researcher and spotter of inconsistencies and coincidences between the materials she cross references. She bases her presentations on what is written and said by the protagonists she reviews, not on wild guesses. When she doesn't know something/has gaps in her research, she says so. She is very well respected, especially by the excellent investigative reporters/writers, Andrew Lownie and Phil Craig, with whom she's collaborated a number of times both individually and on The Scandalmongers' Podcast - neither of them are fans of the RF or the establishment in general.

skullbabe · 16/09/2024 16:56

TallerSally · 16/09/2024 12:33

... Love this one of Harry and Meghan having the most AWFUL time at a charity event last weekend, being, as usual, absolutely SHUNNED by celebrities including Property Brothers star Jonathan Scott, Zooey Deschanel, Zach Braff and Meghan's friend and former Suits costar Abigail Spencer etc etc. Clearly, they must have PAID to get the invite to the event, just as the paid the RF to send Harry birthday wishes yesterday.

All this PAYING!!!

😂😂😆

https://people.com/prince-harry-spends-birthday-weekend-with-meghan-markle-at-charitable-tennis-tournament-in-los-angeles-8712830

I think Archewell were indeed a presenting sponsor but regardless of that, Meghan especially has been a friend to Kelly for awhile it would be surprising for her not to attend or support a tournament that the Zajfen’s will have sponsored in honour of their 9 year old child who died only 2 years ago.

Hoopper · 16/09/2024 17:40

TallerSally · 16/09/2024 15:39

Hmmmm.... she sounds to me just like any other M&H-hating conspiracy theorist... parading pseudo-facts and opinions as if they were gospel.

No offence, but it feels like a bit of a rabbit-hole for those with time to spare... though it's fascinating to see how people can build entire multi-layered, multi-year narratives out of next to nothing... and base entire YouTube channels (and ad revenue) around them!

I can imagine its deeply uncomfortable for some to see her pull up evidence still available online today right back from 2016 outlining MM leaking and briefing activities that were there from the start.

Hoopper · 16/09/2024 17:43

skullbabe · 16/09/2024 16:56

I think Archewell were indeed a presenting sponsor but regardless of that, Meghan especially has been a friend to Kelly for awhile it would be surprising for her not to attend or support a tournament that the Zajfen’s will have sponsored in honour of their 9 year old child who died only 2 years ago.

Thanks @skullbabe for your insight and bringing sensitivity to this truely heartbreaking situation.

TallerSally · 16/09/2024 19:27

Hoopper · 16/09/2024 17:40

I can imagine its deeply uncomfortable for some to see her pull up evidence still available online today right back from 2016 outlining MM leaking and briefing activities that were there from the start.

I have to say the woman lost me in the first minute of her Incredibly Insightful And Surreptitious Expose Of What’s Really Going In With Meghan & Harry, Let Me Tell Yer, when she said the Hollywood Reporter article slamming Meghan was likely planted by her (Meg) so she could claim the tabloids were victimising her…

I mean, what bonkers nonsense is that?

Just shows how far up their BS-filled rear ends (literally!) some people have become stuck.

And as to the facts she’s referring to, anyone with half a brain could come up with a different set of facts that support the opposite narrative.

What a waste of time… though presumably this lady’s audience has no shortage of that to waste…

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TallerSally · 16/09/2024 22:03

Dear oh dear, this is just getting funnier by the day!

First, the RF thwart the M&H-hating tabloids BIG TIME just as they were salivating at the prospect of slamming Harry with BRUTAL SNUB headlines for his 40th birthday.

Then, just as the mud-raking tabloids thought they’d done some savvy damage-limitation by claiming the RF’s birthday greetings to Harry were a BRUTAL SNUB to Meghan as she’d been cropped out of the Harry picture… the pesky RF have gone and nixed that narrative too!!!

Their spokesperson denied that they (or, for that matter, their Photoshop expert Kate) had altered the photo in any way, shape or form, as they published it exactly the way it was received.

What the photoshopped wrist is going on??? Aren’t the RF and the BM BFFs anymore???

https://pagesix.com/2024/09/16/royal-family/palace-denies-cropping-meghan-out-of-harrys-birthday-photo/

Buckingham Palace denies cropping Meghan Markle out of Prince Harry’s 40th birthday photo

A spokesperson for the royal family insisted the 2018 image shared on their official accounts Sunday was not altered in any way.

https://pagesix.com/2024/09/16/royal-family/palace-denies-cropping-meghan-out-of-harrys-birthday-photo

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Americanpseudoroyaltorture · 16/09/2024 22:11

Except that's not quite what she says. She says her first impression was that it's friendly fire planted by Meghan and gives her reasoning; being that Hollywood Reporter is part of the Penske Media group of publications which are all very friendly to H&M. She has done a lot of research into Penske Media publications and their output, and has observed them run pieces that the British tabloids pick up, following which the Sussex supporters then complain about the latter as part of the continuing narrative that the UK press is hostile.

However, she concludes that it is not a friendly fire piece planted by Meghan because the article is clearly distancing Harry from any bullying claims and making it all about Meghan's terrible behaviour. And she concludes that the piece is Hollywood's way of setting the record straight about her - there's no way this piece would have been able to run without the Hollywood hierarchy's approval, approval from the likes of WME. And at the same time, they are giving Harry a pass. They have picked a side. That's incredibly interesting. What are they up to? That's what she's asking. It's good to ask questions, apply a bit of critical thinking, not take everything at face value, isn't it?

She's a thorough commentator and this is not the first time she has spoken about Penske Media, so she is going to talk through her thought process for her audience. Your being rude about it just highlights your own lack of research and understanding of the background to the matter.

Anyway, for the time being, it's been made clear to Hollywood by its preeminent publication that Meghan Markle is a bully. 12 staff members, past and even present have talked to this reporter. 12 bullied employees. Oh dear.

(Oh, and it's a bit rich to criticise others for wasting their time when you are reading Page Six!)

PoppysAunt · 16/09/2024 22:16

No such thing as "M&H hating tabloids".
The Sussexes co-operate with them, as all celebrities do. They want the headlines. They have communication with them, and many sections of the press.
They need the clicks.

Mylovelygreendress · 16/09/2024 22:25

@TallerSally
Dear oh dear, this is just getting funnier by the day!

Do you believe Meghan is a bully ?

Sunsetand · 17/09/2024 01:37

Thanks OP for the link to the Guardian article. It is one of the more balanced articles.

I rarely click on the tabloids anymore so hadn’t seen a Daily Mail article written by Jan Moir who was sent to Montecito to find out about Harry and Meghan.

But I was entertained by this person’s (Meredith Constant) take on Moir’s excursion on behalf of the DM.

JannMoir/Daily Mail in Montecito

TikTok - Make Your Day

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS294kgAT/

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PoppysAunt · 17/09/2024 17:17

Don't call him "Harry No Mates", that's uncalled for, and a juvenile expression.
He's not the nicest or most pleasant person, but he still probably has friends.

TallerSally · 17/09/2024 17:35

PoppysAunt · 17/09/2024 17:17

Don't call him "Harry No Mates", that's uncalled for, and a juvenile expression.
He's not the nicest or most pleasant person, but he still probably has friends.

T’was said in jest!

Occasionally I do enjoy mocking the many sour-grapes who seem to spend their lives claiming (cue whiny voice) “Uh, Harry’s so miz, he’s got no pals left ’cuz that Dictator in Heels b*tch Meghan’s driven them all away, and no-one wants to hang with him seing as he’s a Hollywood Loser and he’s burned all his bridges with Spare, and his popularity has plummeted even more than it plummeted last week, and yaadi-yaada-boring-yaa.

For further inspo, read 9/10 MN RF threads!

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PoppysAunt · 17/09/2024 17:41

I've no idea where you got all that from. I've never seen Meghan described thus on these boards.
True about his popularity plummeting, but that's an objective fact.

Americanpseudoroyaltorture · 17/09/2024 17:41

I'm seeing Alison Steadman, I'm seeing bonnets, I'm seeing a Regency drawing room, I'm seeing Mrs Bennet waxing lyrical about Mr Wickham, exiled to Newcastle with his silly wife...."Thank Heaven! he has some friends, though perhaps not so many as he deserves."

PoppysAunt · 17/09/2024 17:43

@Americanpseudoroyaltorture 😂😂
I would think the fact that he's a multimillionaire prince and son of the King would ensure that he has some friends. 😂

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Uricon2 · 17/09/2024 17:57

Yes, @TallerSally , everything is wonderful in the best of all possible worlds. The Garden of Eden sorry Montecito contains no snakes and the Golden Couple charge through Hollywood life winning hearts and minds all round.

Well, depending if you read the Hollywood Reporter or not I suppose.

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