Harry in UK for funeral

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DM is reporting Harry came to the UK for the funeral of his uncle Robert Fellowes. The husband of Diana's sister Lady Jane. Apparently they kept their distance from each other and didn't speak. Looks like William has the Windsor habit of bearing grudges. Don't blame him in this case.

Actually Doria has spoken out, in the Harry and Meghan Netflix series. She introduced the notion that there might be racism behind some of what was going on. So she isn’t as benign as people seem to think.

I agree. I don't get the impression that Doria is benign at all. I admit this sounds like a very rash judgement, but when she came out of the church at the wedding and stood with (the then) Prince Charles, I was struck by how detached she seemed - I could see him trying to engage her, and she just looked ahead and kept quiet.

Now a) I know that's a snap judgement and b) of course she would have been nervous, but I can only speak for myself. I just got a bad feeling about her at that point. I remember it, because I was expecting her to look happy, overjoyed, in fact, and to be laughing and chatting with her new in-laws. Of course, I now realise it's highly likely that Meghan had read her the Riot Act and ordered her to keep her mouth shut. I suspect she shares Meghan's victim mentality - but maybe with more justification.

You think he talks to the Press directly? Like, they have his private number? Goodness, is all I can say to that. I hope he’s not paying his Global Communications Secretary very much if that’s the case. No wonder they keep leaving…

Is People magazine not the Press now?

How would a US based media company find out these things?

Quite. "People" is the Sussexes organ of choice.

To be more specific, it's Meghan's organ of choice and I believe it was she who leaked the funeral story.

In my view, the flurry of media reports in the past fortnight can be attributed as follows:

• Harry putting out feelers to old friends get back into RF - leaked by someone in the circle of 'old friends'. Not the really good OE friends like Skippy because they well and truly cut him off. But some of the secondary circle. A credible enough source for The Times to pick it up.
• Nope, Harry's never going back to UK because he loves Cali and has lovely brand new friends - this is defo Meghan counter-leaking
• Harry secretly flew into UK for funeral - Meghan, I think

Of course, a real cynic might say that a story about Harry being able to suddenly pick and fly privately into UK without the new for special security and without taking his family, is a very helpful bit of weapon to have in one's armoury should it ever come to a future custody battle.

But surely not.

@GiveMeSpanakopita oooooh, you could we be correct..

I also think it’s quite the whole cycle (“Oh no he isn’t!” “Oh yes he is!”) all came from the couple’s own PR, as each strand of the story gets picked up and reported by the press, which them keeps them in the headlines for a series of days in a row, and means they and their fans can turn around and say “See, you’re all still talking about them…”.

I’m quite cynical about PR campaigns, though.

I’m quite cynical about PR campaigns, though

Well, yes. The appearance at the memorial service, the simultaneous planted news stories about wanting a reconciliation, the (possibly did happen) approaches to old friends, it's all testing the water, isn't it. Then when private and public reaction is unfavourable, immediate backtracking and denial that they said or intended anything of the sort, and H is living his best life in Montecito.

Edit for a missing word.

Exactly my impressions too.

I think if Harry offered to help out recently with Royal duties , then 2 things - either he was trying to be helpful or 2 my more cynical head says he is trying to inveigle himself back into the half in half out thing.

Harry, helpful? Unlikely.

Harry reminds me of a snake trying to sliver in while there are weaknesses with Kate and KC. Hopefully, they told him to do one. I can’t believe he used to be my favourite.

Yes, he clearly thought they're struggling and could take advantage of any weakness.
He's a piece of work.

I just can't begin to get in to the thought processes of those who go online to slag off people they've never met personally (which most haven't) based on the say so of what the press have told them.

Why? Do you know him? How much of your knowledge of him is what you haven't read in the Mail, the Sun, the Express, etc?

Of course, a real cynic might say that a story about Harry being able to suddenly pick and fly privately into UK without the new for special security and without taking his family, is a very helpful bit of weapon to have in one's armoury should it ever come to a future custody battle

Why would it come to a "future custody battle?"
What are you basing that on? (Genuine question)

Why don't you use your critical ability and assess what is out there in the public domain??

Well then, don't attempt to reason with us - we are clearly too far gone!! 🙄

None. Whatsoever.
I've got most of my opinion of Harry from "Spare".

No. The people themselves. Read Spare, watch the Oprah interview. The Netflix series. Umpteen magazine interviews.
Primary source material from themselves. No tabloids necessary. Not even the ones they leak to.

It's extraordinary that some people still blame the tabloids for Sussex criticism or misfortune.
They've completely done it themselves.
Years of publicity seeking, sharing details and invading others' privacy for money pretty much gives you a clear picture of people themselves.

It's extraordinary that some people still blame the tabloids for Sussex criticism or misfortune.

Yes - they fall for Harry's "Briddish press" narrative and and then accuse H+M critics of being the gullible ones 🤦‍♀️

How about you read the book he wrote. That’s where I got my information on and the OW interview. I don’t read the Sun, Mail or whatever other rag you’re referring to.

Indeed. Talk about lack of critical thinking.

It’s as if their supporters forget what they have said themselves. We are not the gullible ones that’s for sure!