Harry in UK for funeral

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DM is reporting Harry came to the UK for the funeral of his uncle Robert Fellowes. The husband of Diana's sister Lady Jane. Apparently they kept their distance from each other and didn't speak. Looks like William has the Windsor habit of bearing grudges. Don't blame him in this case.

It's interesting that there were no paps or Harry's official photographer there. I'm assuming that the Spencers blocked that.

So after all the vicious stuff he wrote and said about the RF and particularly about William and Catherine, Harry wants a reconciliation and William's the one in the wrong?!

The expert speaks 🙄. Did you mean to say defiantly or definitely?

he said that William and Catherine's relationship wasn't genuine, whereas his relationship with Meghan is

@Spectre8 William was reported to have said Harry was rushing his marriage to him and questioned his choice in Meghan

Isn't this "reporting" actually Harry first spilling the beans on this private conversation in Spare? No tabloids invaded anyone's privacy for this, Harry invaded his own and that of his brother and wife. Harry also opined in Spare (ie not fact) that William's marriage to Catherine was not for love, later picked up by his mate Omid Scobie and bandied around for everyone else to pontificate on. Would you like your sibling to say that about your marriage for no reason whatsoever except to sell a book?

he stood by when Meghan called Catherine a racist

@Spectre8 William also stood by when the press made racist remarks about Meghan and said zip all

Completely untrue. KP (which represents William) issued a statement backing Harry and Meghan against the press.

As for Harry attending the funeral, the Spencers are his only allies these days on this side of the pond. They are his best bet of getting somewhere to live in the UK for free. Lonely Charles might let them move in with him.

Do you think Charles would invite him to live free at Althorp or something? Highly doubt that.

I doubt it. Charles Spencer would t even let Diana have a house on his estate. But I suppose he might just to annoy the Windsors. No love lost there so it would seem.

Imagine, Harry in a house 🏡 on the estate with all his security team. 😂

Well Charles S backtracked significantly at his sister's funeral, and as the "blood relatives" pledged they would look out for their late sister's sons, now would be a good opportunity.

Not to mention the Netflix cameras capturing it all.

Meanwhile, People magazine appear to be bit blindsided by Harry attending the funeral. Looks like their usual "sources close to the Sussexes" didn't know.

https://people.com/prince-harry-and-prince-william-avoid-each-other-at-uncle-funeral-report-8704371

Have you nothing to do either by the same token?

And "vitriol" when you just said, "Why anyone gives a damn about any member of the RF and relatives is just so beyond me."

What a nonsense post.

I think you're talking rubbish.

I've never read anything about William questioning Harry's choice in Meghan (though in retrospect he probably should have!) He cautioned him against rushing things and according to reports, he wasn't the only one either.

William did issue a statement in support of Meghan. It's something the RF rarely do. They did not comment on Catherine being called racist either.

Nobody's perfect but from all I'm seeing, much of the blame is with Harry and Meghan.

Would you forgive all the shit Harry has said and done? I wouldn't.

No, William didn't "stand by".
He released (an unprecedented) public statement.
There's no need to rewrite history here.
And I think it's clear William was correct to advise Harry not to rush into marriage.

It's funny how Charles Spencer is like H's bff yet isn't he nc with one of his daugthers? The whole Spencer clan seem to have been brought up in a rather dysfunctional fashion family relationship wise. You would think it would make them a bit more sensitive to the Harry situation with his family but apparently not.

Well why caution him at all, Harry didn't caution him. I'd be miffed if my sister or brother took it upon themselves to caution me unnecessarily. It's not like he met Meghan one day and then wanted to marry the next.

And you cant say well Harry should speak up of Kate is called a racist but then be okay if William of RF don't when his wife is receiving racism. And quite fra jky I think it's bs with rf about staying quiet when it comes to matters where someone is on thr receiving end of racism in the press or elsewhere publicly they shoukd speak out. It's bs to always stick to this never say anything rhetoric. Same with any of the public shaming of the women.

'Looks like William has the Windsor habit of bearing grudges. He defiantly does seem to have done.'

Any other bloke but William would be lauded on MN for protecting his wife and family from poisonous narcissistic relatives, told to go NC and avoid like the plague. Which he is doing - good man.

'And you cant say well Harry should speak up of Kate is called a racist but then be okay if William of RF don't when his wife is receiving racism.'

As pointed out upthread (and eleventy million times previously), William issued an unprecedented statement calling out the press.

The RF rarely comment on the press. It's a wise move, commenting never resolves the issues, usually only inflames situations further.

William appears to have been very perceptive in counselling Harry to slow down.

Well why caution him at all, Harry didn't caution him. I'd be miffed if my sister or brother took it upon themselves to caution me unnecessarily. It's not like he met Meghan one day and then wanted to marry the next.

You have absolutely no idea what Harry said to William about Catherine during their 10 year courtship because William has never written a book trashing his brother. You only have Harry's (hugely unreliable) word for it that William "cautioned" him.

Edit to add this: But we know, thanks to Harry's own words in Spare, that Harry regarded Catherine, whom he said was like a sister to him, as some sort of unloved concubine. That's a lovely thing to write about your beloved "sister".

It's not a Windsor habit 😂 I can spectacularly hold a grudge 😊

How was Harry able to risk it here in the UK without a military accompaniment and Kevlar shields? That is mystifying.

Charles Spencer did not attend the weddings of either of his twin daughters.

Maybe it's a Spencer grudge?

Harry cautioned his father not to marry Camilla. He says so in "Spare".
Hypocrite.