Harry in UK for funeral

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DM is reporting Harry came to the UK for the funeral of his uncle Robert Fellowes. The husband of Diana's sister Lady Jane. Apparently they kept their distance from each other and didn't speak. Looks like William has the Windsor habit of bearing grudges. Don't blame him in this case.

It must have made things very awkward for everyone. I imagine there was a family get together before or afterwards.

Wonder whose private jet keen eco-warrior Harold blagged this time?

I’m sure they said hello and asked after the kids etc. it’s not the moment for a deep chat is it?

Nice to see Harry behaving as the private citizen he is and not advertising his movements to all and sundry. The article I read in The Times said they kept their distance and didn't engage with one another at all.

This isn't about William bearing grudges FFS! Harry has made himself a multi-millionaire by selling his family's secrets - and all while blaming them for it! He divulged personal, medical information about William, he recounted private conversations and described a fight they had, which made William look terrible, he said that William and Catherine's relationship wasn't genuine, whereas his relationship with Meghan is, he stood by when Meghan called Catherine a racist and named her to Omid Scobie, who then put it in a fucking book and lied about having done so. If I was William I would never speak to my brother again. I don't blame him and the rest of the royal family for going full 'grey rock' with Harry one bit. Anything they say or do, Harry sells to the highest bidder.

It's good he felt able to come over. Initial reports said he would not do so.

Accounts of what happened, in terms of who spoke to whom and for how long are of course just rumour. There probably were quite a lot of people at the actual funeral, but a family and close friends wake would be much more private, so I doubt we'll get any account of what happened there.

There have long been rumours about people being unwilling to exchange more than the most anodyne small talk with Harry (because they don't want his version of it appearing in an interview or book) and if that is true, it might apply here

Interesting that he can visit the UK privately when it doesn't suit him to leak to the tabloids!

I read the funeral was a very small private affair. And there will be another service for their wider circle. DM asking people to e-mail them if they were there. I doubt there will be any takers. That's awful IMHO.

Why anyone gives a damn about any member of the RF and relatives is just so beyond me.

And yes I caught the thread title and had to see how many posts it would take for the vitriol to surface from those with nothing better to do.

Looks like William has the Windsor habit of bearing grudges, good boundaries against toxic people

I think this is more accurate.

Your line about grudges is odd because grey rocking someone who regularly humiliates you and your family publicly is understandable
I think that they both did the right thing by quietly attending and not creating drama or attracting unnecessary attention on themselves . Good to see that Harry can fly to the UK and quietly leave without any security issues.

I think folk have misunderstood what I meant. I probably didn't phrase it well what I meant was William wasn't just going to put all this behind him now Harry appears to want a reconciliation. I heard Harry say in an interview it wasn't meant to be like this.

That day William was forced to say no we are very much not a racist family in response to press questions after that horrible interview with Oprah. Then that ridiculous book Spare.

And equally perhaps Harry doesn't want to talk to him either.

he said that William and Catherine's relationship wasn't genuine, whereas his relationship with Meghan is
William was reported to have said Harry was rushing his marriage to him and questioned his choice in Meghan

he stood by when Meghan called Catherine a racist
William also stood by when the press made racist remarks about Meghan and said zip all

I think there have been terrible things on both sides it's not black and white.

William was reported to have said Harry was rushing his marriage to him and questioned his choice in Meghan

He didn't say this publicly in interview though, did he? Surely you can see there's a difference between expressing reservations about your loved one's OH privately and going on tv to suggest your brother doesn't really love his wife, in order to humiliate and embarrass them both?

I hope they patted him down for recording devices.

It disproves his theory about leaks doesn't it. The rf would have known he was coming he couldn't just pitch up unannounced but no Palace sources bothered telling the press. I think Harry can rest assured he can come and go without the triggering <in the UK only> cameras.

William was reported to have said Harry was rushing his marriage to him and questioned his choice in Meghan

Very willing to be corrected on this, @Spectre8, but I don't recall Harry claiming that William had questioned his actual choice - only how quickly he was making it, and I find it hard to disagree on that

Not sure why you'd claim that "William also stood by when the press made racist remarks about Meghan and said zip all" though, when the KP statement addressing the treatment of Meghan has been linked time and time again?

In case you'd forgotten or were hoping others had, here it is again: https://news.sky.com/story/palaces-full-statement-on-prince-harrys-girlfriend-meghan-markle-10649945

William wasn't just going to put all this behind him now Harry appears to want a reconciliation

Suspect it is lack of trust - anything said even in front of witness can be recounted as something sinister later by Harry or his wife or made out as some big forgiveness thing.

Easiest thing is to not engage - plus I expect there's a huge amount of personal hurt - and someone else's funeral is not the place to delve into that or risk it coming come.

But here you are!

Of course Harry would come over for the funeral, after all Lady Jane, her husband and Earl Spencer were very close to Harry when he was growing up.

You only have to look a how they were with Harry at the Invictus Ceremony this year.

Looks like William has the Windsor habit of bearing grudges. He defiantly does seem to have done.

Harry criticised Charles for getting married to Camilla. Much was detailed in his risible tome Pot/kettle.
As much as Harry fantasies about it, the RF do not control the press. Since when did Harry call out anything bad the press said about Kate or anyone else? Pot/kettle.

Very interesting that Harry was able to arrive, attend a funeral and leave, with no paparazzi, press intrusion, or significant threats to his life.
Funny, that.

How do you know he bears a grudge? Unlike his brother, he's not monetising the private life of his family, nor sharing every thoughts with various press outlets.

Bearing grudges as in a 30 something man moaning in public he didn't get the same number of sausages when he was a child? That's evidence.

People who attended a private funeral and told the press that they didn't see two individuals talking is not evidence of a grudge. It is evidence that some people have no respect for those who are grieving.

I love all this stuff about William bearing grudges. It wasn't William telling us all how unfair it was that he didn't get as many sausages as his brother 25 years ago 🤦‍♀️

I know, @Hughs - it's funny 🤣!
Harry spends 4.5 years telling stories full of pettiness and victimhood, no anecdote too trivial, yet his brother, who has said nothing, is accused of bearing grudges!