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Harry in UK for funeral

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Viviennemary · 30/08/2024 10:18

DM is reporting Harry came to the UK for the funeral of his uncle Robert Fellowes. The husband of Diana's sister Lady Jane. Apparently they kept their distance from each other and didn't speak. Looks like William has the Windsor habit of bearing grudges. Don't blame him in this case.

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Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:02

UrbanFan · 30/08/2024 16:41

Why do you care? Are you related in anyway or know any of them personally.

And here you are, caring enough to read the thread and post. Ironic much?

Wantarest · 30/08/2024 19:02

DelectableMe · 30/08/2024 18:58

@Wantarest I do not hate them.
There is no such thing as the "British Media".
You do realise it's not a homogeneous group?

There is no such thing as the British Media? Did I coin the phrase? The British Media calls themselves the British Media (ie, the large household name ones). Please have beef with them about it not me and in my eyes, yes they are pretty much the same with some being the worse than others.

Hughs · 30/08/2024 19:04

So many of his critics say he should return to help his brother and sister-in-law.

Who says that?! It's the last thing anybody wants, their fans because they think H+M are too busy living their best life to return to help the racists, and everyone else because they think Harry can't be trusted in any position of responsibility, and they would prefer never to be represented by him.

Wantarest · 30/08/2024 19:08

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:01

One poster. ONE. Plenty of posters have condemned it. It was low, and not true. I hope Harry reads or has read his uncle's story and reflected on his own whingefest.

So when a person stands up for what is right and refuse to be bullied, it is a whingefest? The silence from the RF to the injustice and disgusting behaviour of the BM is the true crime here. History will not be kind to William and the RF as a whole. You think young folks growing up will look at this and think Harry was the one in the wrong? The young will drive how history looks at this. It will be through their lens and from what I can see, they adore Harry the world around.

Thank goodness for his so-called whingefest. It is now history and one that people the world over lapped up, making his book a greatest hit.

MrsLeonFarrell · 30/08/2024 19:10

Evening shift need a new playbook.

On the funeral, it's great that they could hold it in private and grieve as a family. Some people would do well to remember that the Spencers are related to and support both William and Harry. I'm glad they could both attend like mature adults, it's just a pity some attendees couldn't resist talking to news outlets.

DelectableMe · 30/08/2024 19:11

😂this has taken a curious turn!

Wantarest · 30/08/2024 19:11

Hughs · 30/08/2024 19:04

So many of his critics say he should return to help his brother and sister-in-law.

Who says that?! It's the last thing anybody wants, their fans because they think H+M are too busy living their best life to return to help the racists, and everyone else because they think Harry can't be trusted in any position of responsibility, and they would prefer never to be represented by him.

But how can that be objectively true? That nobody wants him in a position of responsibility? He leads a number of well-established and thriving businesses/initiatives and it was HE who rejected being a working royal and said even before he met Meghan a number of times that he wanted out.

The man is the one that walked away and was for a long time desperate to walk away. He wants responsibility elsewhere and has and is achieving just that. Where has he ever said or indicated he wants any kind of responsibility as part of a working royal?

Twototwo15 · 30/08/2024 19:14

Both didn’t speak to each other, so either both bear grudges, or neither do. If it’s Harry who wants to reconcile, it’s up to him to make the first move.

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:16

UrbanFan · 30/08/2024 16:54

I'm interested in the work they do. I don't feel the need to speculate or pry on their private relationships.

You never read biographies?

Not2identifying · 30/08/2024 19:19

The vicar who conducted the service has spoken about W & H to the Daily Mail. There's an article near the top of their website about how he didn't see W & H talk to each other, in the church or in the wake afterwards. I'm shocked the vicar spoke out about this - it makes Fellowes' funeral all about the princes which must be upsetting for his family.

Hughs · 30/08/2024 19:21

Where has he ever said or indicated he wants any kind of responsibility as part of a working royal?

I don't know - I was responding to you, not him. You said so many people think he should come back to help. I asked you who says that, because I doubt it's true. Poll after poll shows how incredibly unpopular he is here now. And those who do like him would presumably prefer him not to visit a country as dangerous as the UK when instead he can stay safe in the US where there are more guns than people and a presidential candidate just got shot.

Are you on the thread about Diana btw?

smilesy · 30/08/2024 19:22

Not2identifying · 30/08/2024 19:19

The vicar who conducted the service has spoken about W & H to the Daily Mail. There's an article near the top of their website about how he didn't see W & H talk to each other, in the church or in the wake afterwards. I'm shocked the vicar spoke out about this - it makes Fellowes' funeral all about the princes which must be upsetting for his family.

It wasn’t the vicar. It was a church warden allegedly

Not2identifying · 30/08/2024 19:25

The DM quotes the Reverend Dan Tansey, described as the vicar.

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:26

Abouttimeforanamechange · 30/08/2024 18:19

Of course they all find a picture of them walking side by side, which is misleading for the inattentive because the writing's about 2024 and when you look at the small print the picture will be from 2017 or something like that.

My first thought on seeing the pic in the post with the People link above was that it's clearly not a recent one - or it's been heavily edited. H hasn't got that much hair these days.

Can you imagine Harry (and Meghan) living on the Althorp estate?

M could get some wear out of her wellies and Barbour jacket, couldn't she.

It would be a good place to keep chickens.

smilesy · 30/08/2024 19:28

Not2identifying · 30/08/2024 19:25

The DM quotes the Reverend Dan Tansey, described as the vicar.

Strange. The Telegraph says it’s a church warden who didn’t want to be named 🤷‍♀️ hmmm🤔

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:29

Wantarest · 30/08/2024 18:43

The idea that Harry or Meghan informs the BM of their movements is weird. I do not know how clearer the evidence can be that this cannot be the case. Were they leaking negative stories about themselves when they were part of the Royal Family? Would Harry be suing the BM and taking them to task and still leaking stories to them? Seriously? Would the BM getting things so wrong with their ridiculous speculation if they had a relationship with Harry or his operatives if they were being provided info?

Harry and Meghan, especially the former, has made it clear verbally and in print that they want nothing to do with the BM and they have moved on.

The BM knows nothing about them and nothing about their kids.

Kensington Palace and Buckingham Palace knew nothing because it was the Spencer side who controlled things. Charles Spencer is very protective of Harry and Meghan. That's why the RF knew nothing, including William. That is why there were no leaks.

Well done to Harry and one day the BM will stop embarrassing themselves with the hundreds of made up stories almost every day speculating about what Harry and Meghan might be thinking or doing. They do not live here. They left!

Focus on the taxpayer funded Royals.

I predict that more countries, including Commonwealth and non-Commonwealth countries will continue to troll the BM and the Royal Family by inviting the Sussexes to their countries.

Leave these two people alone. Harry has a family. He is not leaving his wife and he certainly won't abandon his kids to come back to the UK to wave and cut ribbons and help his brother take care of his kids. So many of his critics say he should return to help his brother and sister-in-law. Why should he prioritise his brother's kids over his own? Even more creepy are those who suggest he should abandon his wife and kids to support his sister-in-law.

Meghan will not come back to the UK for many, many years to come. She is friends with Serena Williams. Remember Indian Wells? I have a suspicion (just a suspicion) that Meghan is taking a leaf out of Serena's book. No amount of denial of racism will ever change the records of how the BM and some on social media were absolutely racist towards Meghan. Worse, even the police confirmed there were death threats plus police themselves exchanged racists messages about Meghan and her kids.

The world knows and no amount of denial will ever change that. The UK has been judge even though it isn't the UK but the BM. The UK is a wonderful, tolerant country. The BM has ruined the international image. Totally disgraced us.

What's BM? Birth mother, bowel movement?

DelectableMe · 30/08/2024 19:30

smilesy · 30/08/2024 19:28

Strange. The Telegraph says it’s a church warden who didn’t want to be named 🤷‍♀️ hmmm🤔

What? The "British Media" (sic) not agreeing with each other and saying different things?!

DelectableMe · 30/08/2024 19:31

Oh, don't pull at that thread, @Runnerinthenight 🙄

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 19:31

MrsLeonFarrell · 30/08/2024 19:10

Evening shift need a new playbook.

On the funeral, it's great that they could hold it in private and grieve as a family. Some people would do well to remember that the Spencers are related to and support both William and Harry. I'm glad they could both attend like mature adults, it's just a pity some attendees couldn't resist talking to news outlets.

BBC say it was a churchwarden. So possibly someone not particularly media savvy. And all they did was confirm attendance by both. BBC is not reporting on interactions or lack of them (or wasn't when I looked).

Other outlets seem to be saying more, but that is unsourced (in the ones I've seen).

The media is not all reporting the same way, just as normal

(Awaits conspiracy theory on how the Palace controls churchwardens)

Not2identifying · 30/08/2024 19:31

Whoever it was who spoke to the media, that's a deeply unpleasant thing to do. The service was about Robert Fellowes and the focus should have remained on him.

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:33

Wantarest · 30/08/2024 18:51

I realise the Royal Family forum is for people who hate Harry and Meghan but I couldn't help posting as this showed up in Active Conversation.

Seriously people; Harry and Meghan have left and are building a life for themselves. They are not desperate to return (return to what a failing Royal Family institution, the BM that hates them). There is nothing to return to or for. They even gave back the property they were gifted by the Queen. There is even one British guy who is desperately trying to force Harry to return by trying to get him deported (which will never happen).

The hatred is all messed up and weird.

I am here to assure you that there is life after Harry's and Meghan's exit. You can get over it. Focus on yourself and forget about them. They will promote themselves and their businesses. No amount of crying "why don't they hide forever" will change that. They exist. They will live and breathe as they choose.

... and Meghan is not running for president!

@Wantarest - give it a rest!!

They did not give Frogmore back. It was taken from them as they weren't living in it.

They're making a pretty poor fist of building a life for themselves.

And you don't get to tell other posters what they can discuss.

The RF is not failing.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/08/2024 19:34

Just checked the church's own website; the wardens are named as Andy Gee and Sarah Keen and the priest is indeed Dan Tansey

So after actually naming their source I do hope the Mail haven't made this up ...

MrsLeonFarrell · 30/08/2024 19:36

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 19:31

BBC say it was a churchwarden. So possibly someone not particularly media savvy. And all they did was confirm attendance by both. BBC is not reporting on interactions or lack of them (or wasn't when I looked).

Other outlets seem to be saying more, but that is unsourced (in the ones I've seen).

The media is not all reporting the same way, just as normal

(Awaits conspiracy theory on how the Palace controls churchwardens)

I hadn't seen that. I'm a bit disappointed in that church warden in that case, not at all their place to be speaking to the media about that sort of thing.

I was synod about the veracity of the interaction quotes because saying you didn't see someone speak to someone else is hardly evidence!

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 19:37

Not2identifying · 30/08/2024 19:19

The vicar who conducted the service has spoken about W & H to the Daily Mail. There's an article near the top of their website about how he didn't see W & H talk to each other, in the church or in the wake afterwards. I'm shocked the vicar spoke out about this - it makes Fellowes' funeral all about the princes which must be upsetting for his family.

I wonder if he commented before or after the BBC ran the churchwarden based story.

I wonder if the DM doorstepped and asked leading questions with carefully edited answers

"did you see them talk?"

"me? no, but of course my attention was with all the bereaved. I'm not going to comment further"

(yes, I know I'm speculating, but I wanted to remind that there are options other than blabbermouth vicars or deliberate leaks)

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:38

Wantarest · 30/08/2024 19:08

So when a person stands up for what is right and refuse to be bullied, it is a whingefest? The silence from the RF to the injustice and disgusting behaviour of the BM is the true crime here. History will not be kind to William and the RF as a whole. You think young folks growing up will look at this and think Harry was the one in the wrong? The young will drive how history looks at this. It will be through their lens and from what I can see, they adore Harry the world around.

Thank goodness for his so-called whingefest. It is now history and one that people the world over lapped up, making his book a greatest hit.

It was a load of shyte and lies and you're gullible enough to believe it!! Did you really want to know about him losing his virginity or his todger because I sure as hell could have done without it.

You're nuts if you think people "adore Harry the world around"! Maybe some used to. Now, not so much.

"Injustice and disgusting behaviour"? Don't make me laugh. The disgusting behaviour was on Harry's part. Don't delude yourself.

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