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pearlfritillary · 05/08/2024 14:53

In the UK there is a very very clear guidance under the Data Protection Act
in that

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it gives health and social care providers clear guidance on how to collect and use personal data in a way that prioritises the safety of the people they are caring for
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I don't think it is at all clear how this Archewell Foundation initiative (Parents Network) would have the same controls in place.

Kebarbra · 05/08/2024 14:53

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/08/2024 14:43

If they have anything online it won't be moderated properly, or run properly, they don't have the experience or expertise and they've proven they can't buy it even

I posted about what was available from this initiative on another (probably the wrong ...) thread, so will repeat it here in the hope someone else has more information
Beacuse I'd genuinely like to know ...

I've just visited the site and it says "this safe, free-to-access peer-support network, complete with comprehensive advice and resources provided by a licensed facilitator, offers invaluable support to those in need"

Really not sure what the "licenced facilitator" means - who are they, who's licencing them and are they professionally qualified? - but on reaching the part where you're invited to post intimate details, it says "Please share a bit about your experience, so we can help connect you to fellow parents who share your experience" with no further mention of other "advice and resources"

Before submission, it also requires members to "acknowledge that any personal data I disclose through the Parent’s Network interactive features may be viewed, collected, and used by others. It is held under strict privacy conditions by the Archewell Foundation and will never be sold or disclosed to outside entities"

So as so often with this website I'm none the wiser ... are professional advice and resources available or not, how do they define a "safe" network, and how does data being "used by

Yikes! I think they're being very naieve here.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 05/08/2024 15:05

GiveMeSpanakopita · 05/08/2024 14:36

I don't know about Marxist Aspen agendas, that all sounds a bit tin foil hat to me.

What I do know, as someone with direct family experience, is that suicidal behaviour is socially communicable and that is why the Samaritans has published and well publicised guidelines which can be downloaded here: https://www.samaritans.org/about-samaritans/media-guidelines/media-guidelines-reporting-suicide/

Harry, with his dark speculation and intimations and threats, is clearly violating these guidelines.

And he also said this!

'They could be in the next-door room on a tablet or phone and can be going down these rabbit holes and, before you know it, within 24 hours they could be taking their life,'

A parent telling other parents that if they let their kid go next door with their phone, they might be dead the next day???

What. In. The. Actual. Fuck and why aren't more people claling this out for the irresponsible catastophising it is???

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No tin foil hat required. In 2014 in Scotland, the SNP tried to bring in a piece of legislation that would have every Scottish child having a third “parent” figure called a “Named Person”, a state actor ready to deem any child “at risk” if state prescribed outcomes were not being achieved at every stage. Look at how Canada treats parents who do not agree with state supported gender ideology - removal of children and imprisonment of parents. Archewell have provided research to DEMOS, a UK based think tank seeking to regulate online freedom of speech and access to information in the internet age. Every authoritarian ideology starts with the children.

MrsFinkelstein · 05/08/2024 15:32

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 05/08/2024 11:03

I thought some of what Harry came out with was bollocks.

"even the best first responders in the world wouldn't be able to tell the signs of possible suicide. That is the terrifying piece of this"

Really? The best first responders in the world can't tell signs of potential suicide? Seriously?

If he'd said something more like "there needs to be better training so that if someone is in crisis, it's recognised quickly that they need healthcare rather than police" or "we need to make sure all first responders have this training" then yes, absolutely.

It's a CYA statement from Harry.

How could he be criticised for not helping his suicidal wife when the "best first responders in the world wouldn't be able to tell the possible signs of suicide"???

Rhaidimiddim · 05/08/2024 15:47

MrsFinkelstein · 05/08/2024 15:32

It's a CYA statement from Harry.

How could he be criticised for not helping his suicidal wife when the "best first responders in the world wouldn't be able to tell the possible signs of suicide"???

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Yeah, but his wife told him she was suicidal. Even the worst responder in the world would recognise that statement as a big red flag. (But I doubt they would have told her to dress up, smack on a smile and go out for the evening.)

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 05/08/2024 15:51

MrsFinkelstein · 05/08/2024 15:32

It's a CYA statement from Harry.

How could he be criticised for not helping his suicidal wife when the "best first responders in the world wouldn't be able to tell the possible signs of suicide"???

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Surely your wife telling you, “ I am suicidal” is a significant clue? And yet, he did nothing. Oh, apart from go to the HR department (of which he was in charge as their employer) and expect them to help. Or call on Catherine (according to Scobie), a new mum with 2 other small children. But let’s ignore that expensive Portland package with the paid for counselling and your own therapist on speed dial, I mean, what would they know? Seriously, why should anyone take advice on suicidal feelings from this idiot?

Likewhatever · 05/08/2024 15:53

I won’t quote the whole of @Riptides post again but this jumped out.

“They have this platform because of their charitable works as royals”.

They don’t have a platform, they get invited to speak because programme makers know people will tune in to watch them, based on what they’ve revealed in the past.

Their “charitable work” is patchy at best. What substantial work have they done in any field? What charitable works are they known for?

And they aren’t royals, they’re celebrities. Harry is royal by birth but in no other way does he represent royalty. If the King won’t acknowledge him that’s a pretty clear sign of his ex communication.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/08/2024 16:11

Looking further at the new website, I noticed there was a feedback option.
It seemed an opportunity to clarify a few of the concerns raised, but what it actually says is "Help to shape the future of our campaigning efforts by sharing your concerns about the digital age we’re living in, and your hopes for a better online world", which isn't really my idea of what site feedback's intended for

I see there are also links to "partners" such as the NSPCC, but many will be aware of what they do - and besides I thought H&M were supposed to be offering something new

So apart from sharing with other parents is there actually any professional support to be found here (as implied in "complete with comprehensive advice and resources provided by a licensed facilitator"^^) or is it just another attempt to piggybaack on what others are already doing?

FloofPaws · 05/08/2024 16:15

They're not 'allowed' to be working royals because they stepped away because they couldn't cash in on it.... yet they try their hardest to do that! In Nigeria the British diplomat had to ensure that was aired - yet there they were, in their full prince and princessy-ness reaping all the arse kissing they could - clumsily treading and stumbling over those wise enough to know what they were up to by massaging their egos and faux laughter/graciousness

PoppysAunt · 05/08/2024 16:23

The National Anthem was played for them 😂how obvious can you get!

GingerPirate · 05/08/2024 16:25

Wasntmeanttobelikethis · 05/08/2024 12:56

As an aside, is the ‘thanks’ icon to be used as a like of a post, or am I missing something?

You just put your paw on it, if you want.
Like this 😁

Cattery · 05/08/2024 16:33

As usual it’s just embarrassing drivel. The only person she cares about is herself. Interest in them is waning. Let’s hope they then get the privacy they claim to crave

Sunnydaysandthebeach · 05/08/2024 17:23

They don’t have a platform, they get invited to speak because programme makers know people will tune in to watch them, based on what they’ve revealed in the past.

You really need to get out more if you do not think they have a platform. 😂

DandyLimeFinch · 05/08/2024 17:27

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DeeplyMovingExperience · 05/08/2024 17:40

Jaw-droppingly tone-deaf and self-aggrandising to the point of offensiveness.

Getonwitit · 05/08/2024 17:42

StrawberriesandCreamTea · 05/08/2024 12:30

It clearly is bias as Meghan has not done or said anything that warrants the continued negative beliefs and trolling of what she does and says. Being picked apart in order to dehumanise her is just outright disgusting.

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😂

ThePinkyFinger · 05/08/2024 17:44

Back in the day when Meghan lived here. Now she is gone and the news outlets here still can’t leave her alone. 😆

“I can’t believe I made her wash rice! After we said that we could only use the kitchen twice a week due to funding, she mentioned: ‘How about sharing your recipes with other people?’ And that’s how it happened.”

https://whatmeghanwore.net/meghans-first-solo-charity-project-is-a-community-cookbook/

Just as well she is not here due to the racism on our streets where anarchy fermented by right wing activists such as Farage is now showing the world what we already knew.

New Meghan and Harry interview
PoppysAunt · 05/08/2024 17:46

"the news outlets won't leave her alone" ....she wants to be left alone?!

PoppysAunt · 05/08/2024 17:47

Omid Scobie 😂of course there's nothing like that in the USA or in France, for example....😂

SidekickSylvia · 05/08/2024 17:50

Rhaidimiddim · 05/08/2024 15:47

Yeah, but his wife told him she was suicidal. Even the worst responder in the world would recognise that statement as a big red flag. (But I doubt they would have told her to dress up, smack on a smile and go out for the evening.)

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Was she expecting Archie, at that time? In this interview they're discussing her suicidal thoughts when Archie was a baby, but I'd thought she was pregnant?

Also, Harry really does come across as spectacularly dim. The 'most terrifying thing' is that a first responder can't tell how a person died? Not that a person has died. Sheeeesh.

PoppysAunt · 05/08/2024 17:51

He should have consulted his brother. He actually was a First Responder!

Rhaidimiddim · 05/08/2024 17:52

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Goes on to say " as well as media platforms rhat fight against misinformation".

They should have a stern word with Bouzy.

Sayitagainmyl · 05/08/2024 17:54

Seems some still have nothing to do on a warm, summer’s day. How sad!

SidekickSylvia · 05/08/2024 17:55

It's raining here.

Rhaidimiddim · 05/08/2024 17:55

Sayitagainmyl · 05/08/2024 17:54

Seems some still have nothing to do on a warm, summer’s day. How sad!

You, for example?

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