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BigWillyLittleTodger · 30/08/2024 18:05

@QueenofTheBorg
I reckon Charles Spencer told him not to bring any cameras to the funeral citing respect. And I suspect much was done to keep him as far away from William as possible. If I was William I'd have wanted to deck him

Your comment reminded me of my favourite meme, it never gets old!

New Meghan and Harry interview
StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 30/08/2024 18:27

@QueenofTheBorg im thinking more along the lines of her trashing Harry and giving much more, infinitely more coherent information about stuff he talked about in spare. Doing the rounds of talk shows, interviews etc

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 30/08/2024 18:32

Rhaidimiddim · 30/08/2024 16:20

She's on record in The Cut interview as saying she never signed anything.

To be fair I wouldn't believe what she said if she said it was Friday. I think the RF saw her coming a mile away and will have absolutely sewn everything up to make 100% sure. If they didn't their advisors are very remiss. I would have thought at least a non-disclosure agreement. Although maybe that would be part of a divorce, I don't really know anything about that sort of stuff. Their staff have to sign confidentiality agreements so I can't imagine you can marry in with all the intimate knowledge that entails without them making sure you're not going to talk if it all goes wrong.

Rhaidimiddim · 30/08/2024 18:50

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 30/08/2024 18:32

To be fair I wouldn't believe what she said if she said it was Friday. I think the RF saw her coming a mile away and will have absolutely sewn everything up to make 100% sure. If they didn't their advisors are very remiss. I would have thought at least a non-disclosure agreement. Although maybe that would be part of a divorce, I don't really know anything about that sort of stuff. Their staff have to sign confidentiality agreements so I can't imagine you can marry in with all the intimate knowledge that entails without them making sure you're not going to talk if it all goes wrong.

Your post raises very interesting questions.

Obviously, if you take employment with a company, they can require you to sign an NDA.

If you take up a position as a paid employee with e.g. KP you'd expect to have to sign an NDA.

But if you marry a KP principal.... can the RF require people to sign an NDA on marriage? What if you refused? What would the penalties be if you signed and then breached? What would constitute a breach?

Fascinating stuff! (And could explain why we've had H's memoire, but not M's.)

Not2identifying · 30/08/2024 19:12

I don't think she did sign a NDA because, as @Rhaidimiddim said, she wasn't an employee. I predict that she will release a memoir one day but it'll need to be 'diary style' because it'll cover, in detail, a small period of time. I think she doesn't have a huge amount of material because I suspect the rest of the RF were on their guard with her from quite early on.

Serenster · 30/08/2024 19:16

I imagine that the Royal Family believed that someone who loved their family member and was prepared to marry him and commit to a life of public service, could be trusted…

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 30/08/2024 21:07

I think they most likely had concerns about her or them and would have been guarded. Think gloves will come off if they separate. But I’m not sure they wlll. Folie a deux.

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 30/08/2024 21:21

@Rhaidimiddim NDAs can definitely be used as part of the divorce process in the UK
https://www.legaldocuments.co.uk/divorce-law-in-the-uk/divorce-non-disclosure-agreement-nda/#:~:text=Non%2Ddisclosure%20agreements%20(NDAs),and%20provide%20remedies%20for%20breach.

so I guess that this would probably be the price of a payoff.

on another train of thought.. I wonder how a Californian family court would view Harry's inheritance from the Queen Mum that he comes into at age 40 in any divorce proceedings.

Gorgonemilezola · 30/08/2024 21:46

She'd have to weigh up whether a hefty divorce settlement and an NDA would be better financially than a tell all autobiography.

Although I think the rf would be far less inclined to grey rock Meghan and would likely come out fighting over any lulies/inaccuracies.

MrsLeonFarrell · 30/08/2024 21:56

A Meghan memoir is tricky. If it doesn't line up with Harry's version or Omid's blathering there will be endless articles comparing the them and any potential bombshells will be lost in the crossfire. The more time passes the more irrelevant her 72 days of engagements behind. Unless she divorces Harry, which I don't think will happen because I do believe they have a solid marriage, she hasn't got anything new or different to say and old ground has been throughly dug up.

DoreenonTill8 · 30/08/2024 22:01

Gorgonemilezola · 30/08/2024 21:46

She'd have to weigh up whether a hefty divorce settlement and an NDA would be better financially than a tell all autobiography.

Although I think the rf would be far less inclined to grey rock Meghan and would likely come out fighting over any lulies/inaccuracies.

How could Megan do a 'tell all' with anything new unless she says everything before was lies?

JSMill · 30/08/2024 22:15

Not2identifying · 30/08/2024 19:12

I don't think she did sign a NDA because, as @Rhaidimiddim said, she wasn't an employee. I predict that she will release a memoir one day but it'll need to be 'diary style' because it'll cover, in detail, a small period of time. I think she doesn't have a huge amount of material because I suspect the rest of the RF were on their guard with her from quite early on.

I may be wrong but I recall in the Cut interview in September 2022, she mentioned that when staying in Frogmore for the jubilee, she found the diary she kept during her time in the RF (can't have been a very long book). I thought there was a veiled threat she could publish that at some point.

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 22:19

JSMill · 30/08/2024 22:15

I may be wrong but I recall in the Cut interview in September 2022, she mentioned that when staying in Frogmore for the jubilee, she found the diary she kept during her time in the RF (can't have been a very long book). I thought there was a veiled threat she could publish that at some point.

I'm sure she may want to at some point - suppose it depends upon circumstances. She could do it at any time if she is still together with Harry, but I think it might be more difficult if she was negotiating a divorce settlement!

WinnieTheW0rm · 30/08/2024 23:03

Gorgonemilezola · 30/08/2024 21:46

She'd have to weigh up whether a hefty divorce settlement and an NDA would be better financially than a tell all autobiography.

Although I think the rf would be far less inclined to grey rock Meghan and would likely come out fighting over any lulies/inaccuracies.

I think they would continue to grey rock.

If they started countering Stuff, then anything they didn't counter would, by default, be believed (H&M are already hoist on that petard). As no-one expects them to react, nothing will be read in to a continued lack of reaction.

The only response will be along the lines of "recollections may vary"

That is of course assuming that M would do a "kiss and tell" - I don't think it's a given that she would ever have such plans.

BunnyLake · 31/08/2024 08:56

JSMill · 30/08/2024 22:15

I may be wrong but I recall in the Cut interview in September 2022, she mentioned that when staying in Frogmore for the jubilee, she found the diary she kept during her time in the RF (can't have been a very long book). I thought there was a veiled threat she could publish that at some point.

She’s full of veiled threats.

She was in the RF for a hot minute and I doubt there are any other tales to be told that she wouldn’t have put on the Oprah mess or in Harry’s book.

She just likes to put these things out every so often so the papers (and SM) talk about her and she hopes it will give the RF a few sleepless nights wondering what they can be.

No NDA, has a diary, hasn’t scratched the surface yet, and then she talks about being kind and do as your granny says, if you haven’t got anything nice to say don’t say anything at all. It’s laughable really.

MrsLeonFarrell · 31/08/2024 09:09

BunnyLake · 31/08/2024 08:56

She’s full of veiled threats.

She was in the RF for a hot minute and I doubt there are any other tales to be told that she wouldn’t have put on the Oprah mess or in Harry’s book.

She just likes to put these things out every so often so the papers (and SM) talk about her and she hopes it will give the RF a few sleepless nights wondering what they can be.

No NDA, has a diary, hasn’t scratched the surface yet, and then she talks about being kind and do as your granny says, if you haven’t got anything nice to say don’t say anything at all. It’s laughable really.

I think she is once again playing a celebrity game without realising that it's different in royal circles. Celebrities depend on those reputations and reputations are fragile things. Senior royals can afford to never complain and never explain in the certain knowledge that media attention dies without feeding it and being royal is a long term game. Look at Sophie, made a right mess of being half in half out and then spent years quietly serving her charities and is now seen, rightly, as a treasure.

Meghan, and Harry, have never grasped the difference between celebrity and royal which I think is why they keep doing things like books and interviews and visits and then are surprised by the response.

Uricon2 · 31/08/2024 09:27

JSMill · 30/08/2024 22:15

I may be wrong but I recall in the Cut interview in September 2022, she mentioned that when staying in Frogmore for the jubilee, she found the diary she kept during her time in the RF (can't have been a very long book). I thought there was a veiled threat she could publish that at some point.

Yes, because I reckon such a diary would be the first thing in the suitcases when they left.

smilesy · 31/08/2024 09:27

BunnyLake · 31/08/2024 08:56

She’s full of veiled threats.

She was in the RF for a hot minute and I doubt there are any other tales to be told that she wouldn’t have put on the Oprah mess or in Harry’s book.

She just likes to put these things out every so often so the papers (and SM) talk about her and she hopes it will give the RF a few sleepless nights wondering what they can be.

No NDA, has a diary, hasn’t scratched the surface yet, and then she talks about being kind and do as your granny says, if you haven’t got anything nice to say don’t say anything at all. It’s laughable really.

She might have a diary that she could publish, but I doubt there would be anything of interest in it. She finds herself infinitely interesting and important but she is too earnest and worthy to write anything in an entertaining way (unless it was unintentionally comedic) and I doubt there would be anything in her diary that would be news about her time in the RF as pp have said. If she were to make stuff up or imply things (as she seems to like to do) then I think she would fairly swiftly have lawyers after her

PotatoPie111 · 31/08/2024 10:58

Long term a shock autobiography isn’t going to give her what she wants though. She wants to be famous, wealth and adored. It was the same with Spare, a lot of intense attention and then everyone gets bored of you, it’s not going to give you a career. As time goes by people just spend more time picking it apart as well.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/08/2024 12:19

She was in the RF for a hot minute and I doubt there are any other tales to be told that she wouldn’t have put on the Oprah mess or in Harry’s book

Maybe not, but that wouldn't necessarily stop her inventing a few - something she'd shown herself to be fully capable of

I happen to admire the palace's lack of public response to the silliness they've shown so far, but Meghan might easily take it as licence to do exactly as she pleases, which could well be another mistake
After all when someone keeps damning themselves with their own distasteful behaviour there's little need for the RF to do anything, and this also enables them to keep their hands clean and avoid blame for whatever follows

If she were to make stuff up or imply things (as she seems to like to do) then I think she would fairly swiftly have lawyers after her

Edited to add that as far as we know they've not brought in the lawyers against H&M yet, @smilesy - though I'm convinced they may have have done with Scobie, as a warning to them all after he named Charles and Catherine.
And frankly why bother spending the money and creating more angst, when as said the couple reveal themselves to be liars all by themselves?

elessar · 31/08/2024 12:51

I'm sure there will be some kind of autobiography or memoir from Meghan at some point and I'm sure there will be some new allegations included intended to shock and create headlines.

But I just don't think they've got any credibility anymore, so I really don't see it being that damaging to the RF. Any claims made will be picked over for inconsistencies which there are bound to be, given they've tripped themselves up so many times before - and they've put so much out there themselves in different forms (Spare, Spotify, Netflix, Finding Freedom, The Cut etc).

PoppysAunt · 31/08/2024 16:53

Meghan will definitely write a memoir. Unfortunately, people seem to have kept screenshots of The Tig, which appear to counter various claims she's made about her life pre Harry.

smilesy · 31/08/2024 17:36

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/08/2024 12:19

She was in the RF for a hot minute and I doubt there are any other tales to be told that she wouldn’t have put on the Oprah mess or in Harry’s book

Maybe not, but that wouldn't necessarily stop her inventing a few - something she'd shown herself to be fully capable of

I happen to admire the palace's lack of public response to the silliness they've shown so far, but Meghan might easily take it as licence to do exactly as she pleases, which could well be another mistake
After all when someone keeps damning themselves with their own distasteful behaviour there's little need for the RF to do anything, and this also enables them to keep their hands clean and avoid blame for whatever follows

If she were to make stuff up or imply things (as she seems to like to do) then I think she would fairly swiftly have lawyers after her

Edited to add that as far as we know they've not brought in the lawyers against H&M yet, @smilesy - though I'm convinced they may have have done with Scobie, as a warning to them all after he named Charles and Catherine.
And frankly why bother spending the money and creating more angst, when as said the couple reveal themselves to be liars all by themselves?

Edited

I was thinking more if anything she wrote was deemed to be actually libellous 🤷‍♀️

Runnerinthenight · 31/08/2024 17:38

If she writes the way she speaks, it would be unreadable anyway!

PoppysAunt · 31/08/2024 17:41

They've lied so much, they've lost all credibility.

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