New Meghan and Harry interview

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JAN MOIR: She gave Harry an icy stare any husband would know - watch what you're saying, mister!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13707697/JAN-MOIR-Harry-icy-stare-husband-watch-saying-mister.html

As an aside, is the ‘thanks’ icon to be used as a like of a post, or am I missing something?

No, this is about them trying to keep themselves relevant.

Then why talk about her if you think she is irrelevant. Anyone can say gossipy babble about her but it only serves to stack up as rubbish when set against Meghan’s lifelong commitment to helping others which is very well documented. So she bagged a Prince and left a country where tabloids inspired criticism and hateful trolling of unprecedented proportions. She now operates outside of this country and continues to advocate and put their charity in the driving seat to work for change. She is living her life and just because you don’t want her to have a platform does not mean she has to live under a rock. As she said in the interview she has barely scraped the surface of what her experience with suicide ideation means. It changes you forever and being called out as a liar because it looks a certain way when seen in public reveals nothing about the internal struggle. She isn’t playing the victim, she was victimised and is now on a journey to come to terms with that. If it helps others by sharing her experiences then that is and remains a good outcome for those who suffer too. Mental health conditions remain highly stigmatised.

I think it’s also quite likely that it was Harry who blocked her from inhouse treatment either in the US or the Priory here. He admitted he responded as “institutional Harry” but gave scant detail as to what he meant by this. Ultimately, he may find and Meghan too that no matter the support he now gives that it will lead to them going their separate ways. Meghan is forever changed and it takes years of work on the self to understand the impact of those changes. If their marriage survives I will be pleasantly surprised. I am hoping she writes about her experiences also and expect a book to be published either in 2025 or 2026.

Yes 😆. You can thank me if you like 😂😂

If you see anyone trolling or "dehumanising" on here - report it.
Meghan is a public figure who, together with her husband, has lived a very public life. Their choice. They are somewhat controversial figures - again, their words and actions.
She wants to call out online bullying? Good, then call out those who do it in her name, and call out all the vile stuff about Kate.

I didn't realise until he left the firm, how unintelligent Harry actually is. The palace really protected him well. But now he's on his own, being himself, he's not a sharp guy.

Report it then.

Thank you for sharing, OP, and thank you and PPs for the extracts.

I love the way Harry helps us out with the word "roof". I've always found it a tricky one, especially the visualising of the typical shape of a roof. Lovely work, global Harry!

As opposed to respectful trolling?
No trolling on here. Being critical of a person's words and behaviour isn't trolling, it's discussion.
Or is Meghan above criticism for her activities and words as a public figure?

The thing is, these pair do everything held heartedly, with no skill or qualifications, just a platform to virtue signal and use people to step on and raise themselves. If they have anything online it won't be moderated properly, or run properly, they don't have the experience or expertise and they've proven they can't buy it even.
My DD was really struggling with issues when she reached an existential crisis at the age of 13 , there were 2
Sites only experts would allow her on as they were priestly run and moderated, one was run by the NHS I think the other I think was the Wales' platform - I'll ask her shortly to remind myself

Honestly the tedious how dare you criticise someone choosing to put themselves in the public eye just makes me dislike them both even more. No one has said she should live under a rock, but all of their initiatives are accompanied by various paid for puff piece articles which most of us are subject to against our will, why can't we have opinions? I genuinely wish her and Harry well, good for them they've built a new life for their family and I wish them happiness; doesn't mean I don't find a lot of their initiatives self serving and question why they position themselves as experts on stuff they know little about.

Seems we're not allowed to criticise Meghan or Harry, even when they are controversial and contradictory!

@Kebarbra - also experts wouldn't want those clowns anywhere near vulnerable people, or decent causes

Any update on African Parks ?

That old chestnut! 🙄
If people take to the stage then they open themselves to constructive criticism, they've garnered a great deal of this from all corners of the internet because they're not credible - in this instance I think they'll potentially be destructive but the fact they're grief thieves is just disgusting

I think that might be because it turned out to be the launch for an online forum

It doesn’t appear to have any backers with expertise (or at least not ones name-checked in the interview) so I’m not quite sure what the purpose of the forum is. I can’t see anything beyond the provision of a platform (without any clarity of what sort of support will be offered - I wouldn’t expect detailed comments on moderation (real-time I assume, as they’re pitching to potentially vulnerable people) or whether/how/how far they will establish posters’ bona fides

I particularly dislike those who predict a Sussex divorce

Why do none of these journalists ever ask Meghan and Harry about the deluxe Portland Hospital maternity package they had which would have included both ante and post natal counselling to endure that depression is spotted and help provided as early as possible? I gave birth in one of the worst NHS hospitals in London, and even I was able to access immediate NHS ante natal depression counselling after a single conversation with my midwife. Their story is simply not believable.

Why are they never asked about the Sussex squad and the online bullying that happens in their name? Does anyone believe these interviews are anything other than scripted? Is there no journalistic integrity left?

Why would Harry give an interview to the one US network that showed footage of his dying mother?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anger-at-cbs-use-of-diana-photos/

This is all about their enterprises like Better Up, which utilises the cultish/typical MLM self help narrative that nobody else has the answers, and only they can save the world.

We are allowed to have different opinions, that's okay. I don't want any more detail thanks, it's been repeatedly mentioned for years (each time different). If you don't know what she has to gain from it then- bless you. Good for you if you'd like to read her book, we all have different interests and tastes; should she decide to want to write one hopefully she gets the opportunity to and it's successful.

I found this sentence that Harry said to be unbelievably irresponsible:

We have got to the stage where almost every parent needs to be a first responder and even the best first responders in the world wouldn't be able to tell the signs of possible suicide.

WTAF does that even mean? That a first responder can't immediately tell if a dead person died of suicide or natural causes? Well obviously and that's why we have a coroner.

Or is he talking about risk factors? Possibly but accurately assessing risk factors is notoriously difficult even for the most highly qualified professionals - as the proportion of suicides attempted when under mental health services demonstrates.

So basically he's saying that unless parents have the level of knowledge of qualified psychiatrists, they are failing their children. In fact even then they're failing them because even psychiatrists don't always assess risk correctly.

That's a terrible thing for one parent to say to another: irresponsible and fearmongering.

There's strict media guidelines about discussing suicide because it is KNOWN to be a socially communicable behaviour. Harry, Harry, Harry. I thought you were better than this!

It’s an anti family, anti free speech, Marxist narrative that the state will look after your children better than you will. Or a body hired by the state, run by people with the “correct” opinions, who will make sure only those opinions and others they agree with can be accessed. All part of the Aspen Institute, Better Up agenda.

I don't know about Marxist Aspen agendas, that all sounds a bit tin foil hat to me.

What I do know, as someone with direct family experience, is that suicidal behaviour is socially communicable and that is why the Samaritans has published and well publicised guidelines which can be downloaded here: https://www.samaritans.org/about-samaritans/media-guidelines/media-guidelines-reporting-suicide/

Harry, with his dark speculation and intimations and threats, is clearly violating these guidelines.

And he also said this!

'They could be in the next-door room on a tablet or phone and can be going down these rabbit holes and, before you know it, within 24 hours they could be taking their life,'

A parent telling other parents that if they let their kid go next door with their phone, they might be dead the next day???

What. In. The. Actual. Fuck and why aren't more people claling this out for the irresponsible catastophising it is???

If they have anything online it won't be moderated properly, or run properly, they don't have the experience or expertise and they've proven they can't buy it even

I posted about what was available from this initiative on another (probably the wrong ...) thread, so will repeat it here in the hope someone else has more information
Beacuse I'd genuinely like to know ...

I've just visited the site and it says "this safe, free-to-access peer-support network, complete with comprehensive advice and resources provided by a licensed facilitator, offers invaluable support to those in need"

Really not sure what the "licenced facilitator" means - who are they, who's licencing them and are they professionally qualified? - but on reaching the part where you're invited to post intimate details, it says "Please share a bit about your experience, so we can help connect you to fellow parents who share your experience" with no further mention of other "advice and resources"

Before submission, it also requires members to "acknowledge that any personal data I disclose through the Parent’s Network interactive features may be viewed, collected, and used by others. It is held under strict privacy conditions by the Archewell Foundation and will never be sold or disclosed to outside entities"

So as so often with this website I'm none the wiser ... are professional advice and resources available or not, how do they define a "safe" network, and how does data being "used by