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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 18:05

MummyJ12 · 08/08/2024 18:02

Nicolas Witchell. It was a private conversation with his boys. To be honest, his judge of character was bang on there.

I don't know how he possibly thought it was a private conversation when there was a microphone near him, he was on camera, and he was sitting facing the group of journalists.

If I was sitting on stage at a work event , with a microphone in my face, and I was facing an audience of my colleagues. I don't think I would say to someone "i hate that man" about one of my colleagues.

It was so silly it was funny

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/08/2024 18:08

MummyJ12 · 08/08/2024 16:35

Apparently, Tabloids on Trial was a ratings flop and only the 35th most watched programme on itv for that week. Oops.

www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1217550-prince-harrys-too-dangerous-claim-fails-to-gain-desired-impact

Can't say I'm surprised, MummyJ12; after all we already know the details from the endless court cases, and unlike Harry court records are reliable

I did switch on hoping to learn something new, stuck with it until it became obvious it was just the same old whine and promptly switched off again

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 08/08/2024 18:13

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 17:36

She didn't put on her seat belt yes.

Not putting on your seat belt doesn't directly cause your death though does it.

It means that you are more likely to be hurt, if you are in a car crash.

You don't think that paparazzi chasing her at high speed on motorbikes through a tunnel, was partly responsible for the crash?

Apart from that, Harry also hates the media because they took photos of his mother dying without helping her.

If the media took photos of my dying mother, I would be absolutely raging

You know who has showed those photos (that were not taken by the British press)? Not the British tabloids. CBS, the network Harry has just done an interview with. Seems he’s not all that principled.

Diana dropped her RF security (who could have protected her properly that night instead of the shower provided by her bf’s dad) because of lies told to her about them by Martin Bashir. Both William and Diana’s brother have asked that this interview not be used given the underhand nature of Bashir’s tactics. Who keeps using it? Harry.

smilesy · 08/08/2024 18:14

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 18:05

I don't know how he possibly thought it was a private conversation when there was a microphone near him, he was on camera, and he was sitting facing the group of journalists.

If I was sitting on stage at a work event , with a microphone in my face, and I was facing an audience of my colleagues. I don't think I would say to someone "i hate that man" about one of my colleagues.

It was so silly it was funny

It wasn’t an interview though, was it? He didn’t complain about the press and / or paparazzi during an interview

typo

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 18:16

smilesy · 08/08/2024 18:14

It wasn’t an interview though, was it? He didn’t complain about the press and / or paparazzi during an interview

typo

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It was an interview with journalists

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 08/08/2024 18:17

smilesy · 08/08/2024 18:14

It wasn’t an interview though, was it? He didn’t complain about the press and / or paparazzi during an interview

typo

Edited

Exactly. A hot mike situation picking up a private conversation is not an interview.

IcedPurple · 08/08/2024 18:17

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 18:16

It was an interview with journalists

No it wasn't. It was a photocall.

Still a silly thing to do for someone so experienced with the media however.

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 18:18

Hasn't prince william also complained about the media?

Of course they're going to.

Ita not a big deal. They've all complained about the media.

EdithWeston · 08/08/2024 18:19

IcedPurple · 08/08/2024 17:07

I'm not surprised either.

Phone hacking was big news 13 years ago. The media environment is entirely different now. Obviously those directly affected still very much care about, but there's no reason anybody else should.

I wonder if this is one of the little details that plays differently in UK and US

People in Britain just know that this was all dealt with by Levenson, and that the court cases now are about who gets compensation and how much.

People in US may well not know that, and be under a misconception that Harry is seeking to counter something current

Theunamedcat · 08/08/2024 18:19

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 17:36

She didn't put on her seat belt yes.

Not putting on your seat belt doesn't directly cause your death though does it.

It means that you are more likely to be hurt, if you are in a car crash.

You don't think that paparazzi chasing her at high speed on motorbikes through a tunnel, was partly responsible for the crash?

Apart from that, Harry also hates the media because they took photos of his mother dying without helping her.

If the media took photos of my dying mother, I would be absolutely raging

If I was being chased and I was a passenger the first thing I'm doing is putting on my seatbelt

smilesy · 08/08/2024 18:20

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 18:16

It was an interview with journalists

Stop splitting hairs. He wasn’t sitting down talking to a journalist and complain about the paparazzi. It was a private remark that was unintentionally overheard

eta and you still haven’t told us about the “loads” of other interviews complaining about the press that he or any other member of the RF have done

EmpressOfTheThread · 08/08/2024 18:22

...not while making the bashing of the media a personal cottage industry.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 08/08/2024 18:22

Theunamedcat · 08/08/2024 18:19

If I was being chased and I was a passenger the first thing I'm doing is putting on my seatbelt

If she had worn a seatbelt it’s likely she would have survived

www.newsweek.com/princess-diana-80-percent-chance-survival-if-seat-belt-police-investigator-death-anniversary-1735502

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 18:22

smilesy · 08/08/2024 18:20

Stop splitting hairs. He wasn’t sitting down talking to a journalist and complain about the paparazzi. It was a private remark that was unintentionally overheard

eta and you still haven’t told us about the “loads” of other interviews complaining about the press that he or any other member of the RF have done

Edited

I just think it's such a non argument.

Of course they are all going to complain about the media.

Why wouldn't they.

Every celebrity complains about the media. Paparazzi are annoying. No one enjoys being followed when going about your private day

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 18:24

smilesy · 08/08/2024 18:20

Stop splitting hairs. He wasn’t sitting down talking to a journalist and complain about the paparazzi. It was a private remark that was unintentionally overheard

eta and you still haven’t told us about the “loads” of other interviews complaining about the press that he or any other member of the RF have done

Edited

Why are you getinng so angry about people complaining about the media though.

Is it not a minor thing to do? Your reaction is a bit over the top.

Youre acting like he killed someone.

EmpressOfTheThread · 08/08/2024 18:24

The RF do not complain about the media.
Most celebrities don't complain about the media.
Harry and Meghan do. While courting the media.

Wellieswithsocks · 08/08/2024 18:25

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 17:48

If you want to be angry with him that's fine be angry.

I genuinely couldn't give a shit if he gives media interviews to whatever network.

He's allowed to do interviews.

King Charles did loads of interviews with journalists.

Edited

The only person that’s ‘angry’ is Harry - posters here are just pointing out his ridiculous hypocrisy. Also, I don’t recall Charles launching into tirades about the evils of the press during interviews with..the press, so I’m not sure where he fits into the discussion?

smilesy · 08/08/2024 18:25

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 18:22

I just think it's such a non argument.

Of course they are all going to complain about the media.

Why wouldn't they.

Every celebrity complains about the media. Paparazzi are annoying. No one enjoys being followed when going about your private day

I agree it’s a non argument but you are backtracking on your earlier assertion that he has done “loads” of “interviews” complaining about the media

IcedPurple · 08/08/2024 18:25

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 18:22

I just think it's such a non argument.

Of course they are all going to complain about the media.

Why wouldn't they.

Every celebrity complains about the media. Paparazzi are annoying. No one enjoys being followed when going about your private day

Good thing that doesn't happen to the royals in Britain, isn't it?

Applecidervinegar641 · 08/08/2024 18:26

EmpressOfTheThread · 08/08/2024 17:50

Yes, King Charles doesn't constantly blame the media and whine about his treatment at their hands.

Perhaps he doesn’t have to!

Camilla seems pretty cosy with some journalists and anyway if you are in the top job like KC - the inner circle - you are always afforded a degree of press protection and the backing of the establishment. And you can wield a lot more power to suppress certain stories and promote others.

Btw, I’m a bit disappointed to return to this thread and see two accusations of “not posting in good faith”. I don’t even know what that means. I am a private individual who is not a particular fan of monarchy and I have a degree of sympathy towards H&M, although I don’t support everything they do, does that mean my posts are suspect in some way?

I am a longstanding member of Mumsnet as HQ will verify. I don’t belong to any group supporting H & M and I am not as yet a member of Republic, but honestly some of these threads are turning me that way! 😀

I think it’s really off to try and suggest that people aren’t posting in good faith because they hold a certain view that doesn’t correspond with the majority. If that is the case, why do people posting in favour of the monarchy qualify as “posting in good faith” and how does that differ?

I could easily say that posters are “deliberately trying to discourage posters who have sympathy for H & M from posting on these threads” and protest that that is in “bad faith” too!

These threads are open to everyone to post on and I would have thought that supporters of Monarchy would at least be in favour of free speech?

EmpressOfTheThread · 08/08/2024 18:27

Quite, @Wellieswithsocks ! I haven't seen any poster on here get angry. Just arguing the case and pointing out hypocrisy. Nothing over the top from anyone. How is @smilesy acting as if Harry killed someone? Now that's over the top!

EmpressOfTheThread · 08/08/2024 18:28

@Applecidervinegar641 Harry and Meghan are very cosy with certain sections of the press and certain journalists. They play it.

MummyJ12 · 08/08/2024 18:30

Abigail47 · 08/08/2024 18:22

I just think it's such a non argument.

Of course they are all going to complain about the media.

Why wouldn't they.

Every celebrity complains about the media. Paparazzi are annoying. No one enjoys being followed when going about your private day

If it’s a non argument, why are you continuing with the debate?

MummyJ12 · 08/08/2024 18:32

and I would have thought that supporters of Monarchy would at least be in favour of free speech?

We are. Harry and Meghan aren’t.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 08/08/2024 18:34

@Applecidervinegar641

I am one of those posters, so will post my comment again below, it’s you being disingenuous that makes me feel that way, constantly claiming you are not a Harry and Meghan fan which you so clearly are, just own it.

I was referring to all of the threads and endless hatred towards H & M, picking apart everything they do. Dare I say, to my eyes anyway, it’s a bit odd considering they stepped away from the RF in 2020 and it’s 2024 now

It’s not odd at all, I have an interest in anything royal, what is odd is you, who claims to not be a fan or a supporter of H&M take time out of your day to argue and write very lengthy posts defending 2 people you claim to not care about with strangers over the Internet whilst describing what we write as hatred, it’s very hard to see you as someone who posts in good faith.

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