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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/08/2024 13:04

IcedPurple · 03/08/2024 12:43

Do we have solid evidence that they support the Sussex Squad? Honestly, they probably don’t speak out on the subject because they want to distance themselves from a bunch of nutters! And they wouldn’t want to give them any credibility by speaking to them.

Surely the best way to distance themselves would be to issue a statement from their 'office' putting it on the record that they were in no way affiliated with the 'squad' which bore the title they are so proud of? To the extent of creating a website from a pretend 'Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex'?

If I were a high profile person and a squad of of toxic nutters were using my title to post all sorts of nastiness, I would certainly want to make it abundantly clear that they were not doing so in my name. Much more so if I was setting myself up as an authority on online bullying.

Wouldn't you?

Edited

You'd think so yes, IcedPurple, but I dread to think what the reaction of the Squad would be if their totems were perceived to have turned on them - see also my PP about media knowledge and bear in mind that some members may well have connections there too

smilesy · 03/08/2024 13:08

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/08/2024 13:04

You'd think so yes, IcedPurple, but I dread to think what the reaction of the Squad would be if their totems were perceived to have turned on them - see also my PP about media knowledge and bear in mind that some members may well have connections there too

I’ve no doubt that the Squad would turn on them, but if they are championing overcoming online bullying, surely they would be able to use this as an example of what should not be happening 🤷‍♀️

EmpressOfTheThread · 03/08/2024 13:11

This is where H&M need to be brave, and show that they're more than just words. Saying nothing is being in agreement, right?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/08/2024 13:11

smilesy · 03/08/2024 13:08

I’ve no doubt that the Squad would turn on them, but if they are championing overcoming online bullying, surely they would be able to use this as an example of what should not be happening 🤷‍♀️

Ah but you're bringing common sense and logic into it, smilesy - not necessarily a wise thing to do when it comes to the choices of these two unless you really want to fry your own brain Wink

sausawyee · 03/08/2024 13:15

MummyJ12 · 03/08/2024 12:23

I think many of us are more concerned about the agenda of Harry and Meghan with this. There is always something in it for them. In this case I believe it’s because they want censorship and to be able to control what is put out there about them.

I disagree that there’s been an over reaction to this. It’s such a complex issue and there’s a reason why GPs can’t prescribe antidepressants for children and anyone under 18. Children’s mental health absolutely needs advocacy and I’m not critical of that. It’s how they speak about it as though they are the experts in this area. Preaching about it but yet clearly do not know anything about the subject. It’s also only just been picked up as one of their missions because it didn’t go down well when they were speaking of themselves all of the time and how social media has affected them, so they’ve chosen the smoke and mirrors of “it’s about the children” to garner attention and more support. IMO.

That is a sickening thought actually - true too I imagine.

Applecidervinegar641 · 03/08/2024 13:18

MummyJ12 · 03/08/2024 12:14

@Twistybranch amd @MrsFinkelstein Thank you 💕
@Applecidervinegar641 Thank you too 💕 I hope your dd is also getting some support. Sending you best wishes back 🌺

Thank you MummyJ12 🌻🌻🌻

My dd wasn’t diagnosed until after school so we’ve gone down the route of private psychologist who specialises in ND. We are very lucky to be in that position though and the fact that their office is only twenty minutes away. It’s had a very positive impact on dd who was really struggling. There is hope xxxx

Twistybranch · 03/08/2024 13:26

JSMill · 03/08/2024 12:53

What does that mean?!

I think it meant that she was rapidly aging and looking old. Like how quickly bananas turn

Applecidervinegar641 · 03/08/2024 13:30

Please forgive the general reply because I am packing for holidays.

I don’t pretend that I am across all the details in the same way many posters are on here.

I meant over-reaction in a very general sense with all these threads picking apart H& M. It’s not balanced imho.

If you support the RF then there’s surely no need to add to the division and endless rhetoric of negativity that the tabloids stir up? There’s enough of it out there already.

I am not a great royalist but simply on a human level, If there’s any chance of a family reconciliation, I think they should be left alone to get on with it.

Just my opinion though.

IcedPurple · 03/08/2024 13:35

Applecidervinegar641 · 03/08/2024 13:30

Please forgive the general reply because I am packing for holidays.

I don’t pretend that I am across all the details in the same way many posters are on here.

I meant over-reaction in a very general sense with all these threads picking apart H& M. It’s not balanced imho.

If you support the RF then there’s surely no need to add to the division and endless rhetoric of negativity that the tabloids stir up? There’s enough of it out there already.

I am not a great royalist but simply on a human level, If there’s any chance of a family reconciliation, I think they should be left alone to get on with it.

Just my opinion though.

Edited

So no response to the evidence posted about the Sussexes' relationship with the 'squad'?

And what do you mean by saying the discussion isn't 'balanced'? Life isn't 'balanced'.

And I would say that Harry publishing a book divulging confidential informationl about his family - and more - is going to do a lot more harm to any potential reconciliation than 'the tabloids'.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/08/2024 13:40

What about your opinion on the relationship that H&M have with the SS which has been shown to you over many posts now as I asked you earlier? You asked haven’t acknowledged it other than saying you are “not all over the details” those details are imperative and why many of us has formed the opinion of H&M as we do. I hope you remember these “details” when you join in again on this thread and future threads, but if you do forget these important “details” I’m happy to keep reminding you.

LaMarschallin · 03/08/2024 14:26

Applecidervinegar641

Please forgive the general reply because I am packing for holidays.

Goodness, that shows devotion to duty.
I daren't be distracted by anything when packing - I'd be bound to forget something vital.
Bon voyage (and don't forget your charger Grin).

Ohpleeeease · 03/08/2024 17:26

Applecidervinegar641 · 03/08/2024 13:30

Please forgive the general reply because I am packing for holidays.

I don’t pretend that I am across all the details in the same way many posters are on here.

I meant over-reaction in a very general sense with all these threads picking apart H& M. It’s not balanced imho.

If you support the RF then there’s surely no need to add to the division and endless rhetoric of negativity that the tabloids stir up? There’s enough of it out there already.

I am not a great royalist but simply on a human level, If there’s any chance of a family reconciliation, I think they should be left alone to get on with it.

Just my opinion though.

Edited

On a human level I would say there is 0% chance of reconciliation between Harry and any of his immediate family. The betrayal is too deep.

lizzyBennet08 · 03/08/2024 19:25

I also think there can never be reconciliation. Even if Harry apologised for all of it and William accepted it there would be a fear factor there that down the road in 5 years, harry and meghan could take offence about something and go out and sulk and write spare 2 spilling on all the new private conversations in the last couple of years. He has shown he is capable and the rf simply couldn't risk it. There is a reason their inner circle is so small ,trust has to be earned .

Gorgonemilezola · 03/08/2024 20:46

I do wonder if this is why Kate and William live in a relatively small house with no live-in staff. They then have the freedom to be themselves as a family without the fear of anyone going to the papers (or an online forum) with the news that William snores like a warthog, George loves an irn bru and Kate knits all the family socks.

Nosummerontheagenda · 03/08/2024 20:51

Gorgonemilezola · 03/08/2024 20:46

I do wonder if this is why Kate and William live in a relatively small house with no live-in staff. They then have the freedom to be themselves as a family without the fear of anyone going to the papers (or an online forum) with the news that William snores like a warthog, George loves an irn bru and Kate knits all the family socks.

This is exactly what I think too. Once William is King they will have to live with flanks of staff and no privacy ever again.

Runnerinthenight · 03/08/2024 21:39

sausawyee · 03/08/2024 11:03

They're not doing it for charity 🙄

Well they do say charity begins at home...

Applecidervinegar641 · 03/08/2024 23:37

LaMarschallin · 03/08/2024 14:26

Applecidervinegar641

Please forgive the general reply because I am packing for holidays.

Goodness, that shows devotion to duty.
I daren't be distracted by anything when packing - I'd be bound to forget something vital.
Bon voyage (and don't forget your charger Grin).

Thank you LaMarschallin!

Charger duly packed! 👍

Applecidervinegar641 · 03/08/2024 23:39

BigWillyLittleTodger · 03/08/2024 13:40

What about your opinion on the relationship that H&M have with the SS which has been shown to you over many posts now as I asked you earlier? You asked haven’t acknowledged it other than saying you are “not all over the details” those details are imperative and why many of us has formed the opinion of H&M as we do. I hope you remember these “details” when you join in again on this thread and future threads, but if you do forget these important “details” I’m happy to keep reminding you.

Edited

Er, thank you

Applecidervinegar641 · 04/08/2024 00:02

IcedPurple · 03/08/2024 13:35

So no response to the evidence posted about the Sussexes' relationship with the 'squad'?

And what do you mean by saying the discussion isn't 'balanced'? Life isn't 'balanced'.

And I would say that Harry publishing a book divulging confidential informationl about his family - and more - is going to do a lot more harm to any potential reconciliation than 'the tabloids'.

The only evidence I can scroll back to st this late hour is:

“Yes there is absolute solid evidence, plus their commander in chief Christopher Bouzy is a friend of H&M plus he has worked on their behalf and appeared in their Netflix documentary”

Icedpurple and BigWillyLittleTodger

I can’t comment on it because I don’t know anything about it!

As for the question of balance; I meant generally speaking.

I was referring to all of the threads and endless hatred towards H & M, picking apart everything they do. Dare I say, to my eyes anyway, it’s a bit odd considering they stepped away from the RF in 2020 and it’s 2024 now!

Applecidervinegar641 · 04/08/2024 00:09

lizzyBennet08 · 03/08/2024 19:25

I also think there can never be reconciliation. Even if Harry apologised for all of it and William accepted it there would be a fear factor there that down the road in 5 years, harry and meghan could take offence about something and go out and sulk and write spare 2 spilling on all the new private conversations in the last couple of years. He has shown he is capable and the rf simply couldn't risk it. There is a reason their inner circle is so small ,trust has to be earned .

Maybe it’s too late but that is obviously up to the RF. I doubt we would know anything about it until a tangible measure of reconciliation had been achieved. Maybe they are having talks behind the scenes right now?

Runnerinthenight · 04/08/2024 00:37

Applecidervinegar641 · 04/08/2024 00:02

The only evidence I can scroll back to st this late hour is:

“Yes there is absolute solid evidence, plus their commander in chief Christopher Bouzy is a friend of H&M plus he has worked on their behalf and appeared in their Netflix documentary”

Icedpurple and BigWillyLittleTodger

I can’t comment on it because I don’t know anything about it!

As for the question of balance; I meant generally speaking.

I was referring to all of the threads and endless hatred towards H & M, picking apart everything they do. Dare I say, to my eyes anyway, it’s a bit odd considering they stepped away from the RF in 2020 and it’s 2024 now!

He's still Prince Harry and a lot of us are mildly fascinated by their awful antics! They may have left 4 years ago but they are still constantly putting themselves in the limelight.

There's not "endless hatred". I don't think I've seen anyone post here that actually hates them. That's far too strong a word. If you think it's so odd, why are you joining in?!

IcedPurple · 04/08/2024 08:28

Applecidervinegar641 · 04/08/2024 00:02

The only evidence I can scroll back to st this late hour is:

“Yes there is absolute solid evidence, plus their commander in chief Christopher Bouzy is a friend of H&M plus he has worked on their behalf and appeared in their Netflix documentary”

Icedpurple and BigWillyLittleTodger

I can’t comment on it because I don’t know anything about it!

As for the question of balance; I meant generally speaking.

I was referring to all of the threads and endless hatred towards H & M, picking apart everything they do. Dare I say, to my eyes anyway, it’s a bit odd considering they stepped away from the RF in 2020 and it’s 2024 now!

"Endless hatred" is a tad melodramatic for someone who absolutely definitely is not a fan of theirs, as you claim.

It's also a very weak argument. People have made criticisms and in most cases, backed them up. You may not agree with those criticisms of course, but when you ask for evidence and then ignore it, shift the goalposts and hide behind vague unfounded claims about 'endless hatred', some might wonder if you're posting in good faith here.

ThePoshUns · 04/08/2024 08:48

I don't hate them I just find them fascinating, their behaviour is awful and they just can't see it.

EmpressOfTheThread · 04/08/2024 09:16

I don't hate them either, that's a very strong emotion! Their behaviour is inexplicable and strange and they provide quite a lot of entertainment.

Mylovelygreendress · 04/08/2024 09:17

I don’t think it’s “ endless hatred” rather than endless fascination for a couple who had so much and who chucked it away for ego and $$$$$.
I do think we now realise how much Harry was protected as he grew up and how good the Royal PR machine is . They must have their heads in their hands now .
As for Meghan , we were led to believe she was so clever but that really doesn’t come over !

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